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  • angelatc's Avatar
    Today, 09:16 AM
    #trigglypuff evolved
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  • Suzu's Avatar
    Today, 02:24 AM
    The GOP needed to be "ruined" -- and it needs to be remade. I'm for forging a new and better path.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Today, 02:20 AM
    Perhaps it is, and good points.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Today, 02:19 AM
    I agree, but conversely a strong and timely analysis can help in this process. That won't be an issue: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?492635-Content-Guidelines-for-2016-Presidential-Candidates
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Today, 02:15 AM
    Thanks for the thread and idea. I'm certainly not opposed to it, some thoughts... - This would certainly be an open system, not just for one party. - People can already promote any candidate that receives a positive evaluation within our formal system, this wouldn't preclude promotions to just one person. - The goal won't be to try to focus acceptance / conformity, but highlight what is seen as excellence. A key issue would be the process used. A few thoughts on that... - Anything done should build off of our candidate evaluation system. Maybe start there as a baseline and do point-vs-point comparisons being as objective as possible. This would have a side benefit of improving out evaluation methodology. - At some level, there has to be a subjective judgement call, the question is, who makes that call? While the site staff doesn't have interest in being control freaks, there has to be some combination of membership involvement and final staff sign-off, which could largely be token but necessary to prevent going off-course. For membership voting, I would suggest that voting be limited to members that actively contribute to the data gathering and evaluation process.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Today, 01:13 AM
    Thanks for the note. There is no intent to provide anyone with a free pass to degrade other members but I understand there can be issues. As mentioned, the desire is to have a focus on intellectual exchange; the biggest issue that I can see right now is that the site has always allowed for name calling of other candidates and their supporters, something I've never been a fan of, which now presents a problem due to Trump. We do not allow for someone to directly apply a label to an individual member ("You're a ....") however. In general I suggest the following approach: - Stick to addressing facts and logic. - Avoid making commentary about other members (be careful of using the word "you") - Use the "Report Post" feature when someone attacks (snark puke, etc). It's the triangle "!" under each post in the Full View themes. There is no intent to disallow such discussion, but do see some best practices when bring critical of things / people we generally support, which includes: - Focus on bring value to the movement - Be specific about the issue, vs. making vague generalities
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  • Suzu's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:04 PM
    Maybe Stephen Colbert shamed him into dropping out. With this:
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  • satchelmcqueen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:00 PM
    im debuting my hillary clinton tonight on stage. ill post it when i get the video. i think itll be good for you guys. deals with her trying to censor some comics last yr. im goingt o tweet the video to her lol ill vote lib ertarian party.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:55 AM
    Well, that was the problem then. Rookie mistake.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:35 AM
    Then they need to stop voting for progressives.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:20 AM
    I don't always agree with Milo but he's indeed right about the fact that it's Shapiro's wing of the party that failed to protect us from the left. This article is more about them repositioning themselves to be leaders in what rises from the ashes. They did it with the TEA Party, and they'll do it again. All while the libertarians run purity tests and denounce everybody except Ron Paul as fit to hold office.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:03 AM
    Anecdotal evidence is different than real evidence.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:28 AM
    acp is correct, you should post this in the feedback forum. What you are doing here looks to be passive aggressive. Otherwise, I'll report the issue, it's nothing I will personal fix. Thanks.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:26 AM
    Please focus on the issues vs passing judgement against other members- which is against the guidelines. Thanks.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:49 AM
    Yes, please do. Correct, which can be summed up as do not promote hate based positions (racism, sexism, etc), and do not promote candidates we do not support based on our open and community driven campaign evaluations. Free speech is huge but it if was left wide open the discussion would devolve into complete trash talk, it wouldn't be functional. So while opinions are nearly wide open, degrading other site members is not.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    05-03-2016, 10:53 PM
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/05/03/the-republican-party-is-on-the-verge-of-nominating-an-antivaccine-loon-named-donald-trump/
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    05-03-2016, 10:31 PM
    Honestly, I don't know. I stay out of it because I don't understand it. But the fact that they think that taxes can fix it makes me incredibly suspicious.
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  • Suzu's Avatar
    05-03-2016, 06:33 AM
    I think what he's counting on is for the federal government to bring in more revenue when more people are working and being taxed, and using that revenue to rebuild the military, "fix" social security and the V.A. etc. But he has said that he only wants to be in office for 4 years, and I really don't see how enough jobs can be created in that time to accomplish those goals. Even if all the bad trade deals can be rescinded and replaced with beneficial ones, it will take several years for the jobs to return and the revenue to be generated. So, bottom line, I think he is sincere and wants to give it his best shot, and he probably believes he can do a lot of good, but even if the best possible scenario unfolds under a Trump administration, I think we are headed for some very, very hard times.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 08:43 PM
    Please stay on topic, and away from personal attacks. Thanks.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 05:16 PM
    Interesting. I'm thinking McAfee is going to do the best going the distance, he will continue to rise as more people learn about his campaign.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 05:13 PM
    The only opinions that we'll censor are ones based on group hate-- (ex: racism, sexism, etc). We can debate these with non-supporting people who sign up here, but as a base, these it not acceptable within our camp, per the guidelines. We also do not allow people to promote candidates we do not support. Consider if a Bernie supporter came here and started a "Donate to Bernie" thread and similar, it would technically be off-topic to derail that thread but it would lower the value of the site to allow it, it goes against our Mission to help raise money for Bernie. We of course have no reason to back down on a fair debate of Bernie's policies. That said, there does have to be some balance within the thread volume of what is going on as others have suggested. Being a new member has no bearing on you providing value or not, so this isn't an issue. Logic and good ideas are what is taken well which can come from anyone. Thanks for contributing.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 04:43 PM
    No, this would certainly not be the case. Regardless of whoever wins the president, we would want to: - Discuss all policy matters that are getting attention, work out what is the best course of action. - Push for the best course of action. - Hold the president accountable for their campaign promises that we liked. - Work to stop potential agenda items that we don't like. None of this has anything to do with supporting or not supporting a candidate, and we'd still have done with any pro-liberty candidate. If anything, we would want to hold our own to an even higher standard so they do not harm our message. I hope this helps clear things up.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 04:30 PM
    This thread is a good example of what not to do. Don't make matters personal to other members, no one cares about the bickering. Stick to facts and logic in the future-- and you'll do to the site discourse a positive service to avoid the use of ad hominem against groups. Are a rule of thumb, using the word "you" in a debate is generally not constructive and often lowers the discourse. Thanks.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 12:43 PM
    Considering that Ron Paul has been slamming Trump, by name even, which is really really out of character, I think this is pretty cool. I would much sooner have expected to Trump saying something nasty back just because that's his nature. But I am still not voting for him.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 12:40 PM
    There are certainly arguments to be made from both sides, and this is where anarchists / libertarians / con-conservatives split ways. I believe, as Ron Paul does, that the right to create zoning laws is constitutionally delegated to the states, and by extension to the local municipalities. Pragmatically speaking, if you live in an area where there are no zoning laws and you try to build a casino next to an elementary school, the town is going to band together and create zoning laws. That's just life. Philosophically, I am probably opposed to it. Pragmatically, I am not going to protest on behalf of the casino because I don't want the casino there, even if I believe they have some deep philosophical right.
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  • Suzu's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 12:36 PM
    And now it's down another $10. Damn!
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 11:12 AM
    Or perhaps even, the guiding point. These are absolutely some things that we want to achieve, and more. The key is to have the right level of site discourse, which we're improving, have the right site structures, which we're working on, and to have the right people. The entire interactive effort is something that I certainly can't do by myself, and we need people to step up in small ways, but in ways that they can provide value. To do this, there needs to have a good win-win framework in place, which is the goal of our Mission Advancement Framework.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 11:01 AM
    ... and for those who aren't aware yet, this is what we hope to do with the Foundational Knowledgebase project. It's also something that we can completely control, we don't need anyone's permission, anyone's votes or the like. See this thread for the project kick-off: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?490530-The-Mission-Advancement-Framework-A-new-site-initiative!
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 10:56 AM
    There is some balance here. For one, I don't know of anyone that is saying to hold your breath, no one is saying "hope" beyond a campaign slogan, and no one is saying to waste your time on fruitless efforts. I do agree that we should be smart in how we spend our time and use our assets, I agreed all of this recently in the this thread here on the new site vision: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?494373-A-new-site-vision-a-new-era I see Rand's campaign as a bit of a turning point showing we need a better plan, and it's not a good idea to wait to 2020 or 2024 to try some slightly different version of what has already been done. Ultimately however, your path is a personal choice and the best path will depend upon may factors that are unique to you. Sure, maybe the machine won't let us change the machine from working form within the machine but we can still leverage the machine to build our numbers. That's what I've said is one of the main benefits of the campaigns, and our campaign evaluation system factors this in. Consider we would not be here if it was not for Ron Paul leveraging the machine to get his message out. It works. Consider that people like Massie and Amash got into Congress and are working to push our message from within. They have an opportunity, took it, and it's working for them. So I say to find your balance and come to peace with it, explain why you have that view but there is no reason to beat up others for doing something different. Again, read my post (at leas the "State of the Movement; Where do we go from here?" section) in which I address these points. In short, I say that for now, we should focus on things that we can control.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 09:44 AM
    Dude, it's in the Constitution which I've heard Ron Paul talk about a couple of thousand times. All rights not specifically delegated to the Federal Government belong to the state. If the state has the right to create zoning laws, then arguably they have the right to delegate that function to local government as well.
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  • angelatc's Avatar
    05-02-2016, 09:35 AM
    Small local government. States rights. You know, Ron Paul kind of stuff. But I do agree that changing the rules after the property was purchased is wrong.
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