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Well...damn! I go back to what I said in another thread. Moderators shouldn't pick questions at all. Candidates should submit their questions ahead of time and be allowed a few "suprise" questions to ask at the end. That would be much more enlightening and entertaining.

Well...we all met new people. We should have a BBQ or something.

Ah. My bad. Good analogy!

No. She's a buffoon for saying it. Period. You can't say "I'm not going to take away anybody's guns, but we're going to do a mandatory buy back of AR15s because nobody should have a gun that's made to kill a lot of people quickly (and I'm going to ignore the Virgina Tech shooting where an Asian man killed 30 people with a pair of Glocks quickly) and oh buy the way, we need to expand background checks and we need red flag laws because I do want to talk ALL guns from some people and SOME guns from ALL people....but buy the way if someone breaks into my house their going to get shot because I have a gun and I'm living out a female power fantasy where my Secret Service detail doesn't shoot the person first." Context and speaker and audience are everything. She's not your average American standing up for her "rights."

So....we're supposed to just ignore the fact that she has secret service and if she has to shoot somebody then they've already failed at their job. :rolleyes: But I love how these lefties ignore the fact that their glocks shoot just as fast as an AR15 and handguns are responsible for most of the gun violence.

Why use such a poor analogy? :rolleyes: This isn't a situation where there "is no government." This is a situation where the government created the problem and now the government solution 1) costs more money and 2) restricts your freedom. Meanwhile neither of the 4 main people running for the positions of president and vice president have said a damn thing about the problem they helped create with their welfare state / warfare state.

So.....if you're the one selling meth to my neighborhood and your only response is to go into the business of selling alarms and locks as opposed to, I don't know stop selling meth I should be thankful to you for protecting me from the methheads you created instead of first running you out of town? Here's something nobody is considering. Haiti was one of the countries that rejected COVID vaccines and yet had one of the lowest COVID death rates in the world. Yet, less than a year later, the president of Haiti was assassinated by a gorup of assassins that included a U.S. DEA informatant. They got the presidential guard to stand down by announcing themselves as DEA. Why is the U.S. DEA operating outside the United States anyway? And now the gangs terrorizing neighborhoods in Haiti are being armed with M16s, not AR15, but military M16s from the U.S. Israel can figure out how to bomb Hezbollah through pagers but the U.S. can't figure out who's arming people too poor to feed themselvers?

Not for the plebs.

Also, I read an article a few years ago, don't remember who it was, some ex soldier... but he pointed out that one of the fundamental beliefs of Islam is that Allah lives in the rocks they have in the Kabba. He further pointed out that all it would take is one precision guided bomb or other large explosion to effectively end Islam altogether. We've seen what Israel is capable of doing over the last week. It has to have occurred to them that this is possible and they have to have considered how they'd do it, and we just got proof that it would work. And they haven't. That may be because of the backlash they'd get from the entire Muslim world, I don't know. All I'm saying is it should be eminently possible, and it hasn't happened.

My opinions: 1) I don't understand why I need to care what's going on in Ukraine... I understand how we got to the point where I need to care, but my overarching goal, and I suspect the goal of most Americans, is for us to get back to a point where we don't have to care. This isn't a geopolitical issue if we don't participate. Therefore it's a national issue. And that national issue can be solved by finding the people who have put us into a position of needing to care about it, and excising them. I mean taking everything from them and destroying them publicly and watching them have to eat out of dumpsters for the remainder of their days would be nice, but at this point I'd accept paying them to fuck off into the sunset. 2) I don't understand why I need to care what's going on in Israel - as an American. Of course I care what goes on there, but I care as a Christian who knows there have been Christians living there for 2000 years, and who knows that Christians have actually owned the place on multiple occasions, and who knows that no discussion of "geopolitics" is ever going to include them. That's why I don't choose sides in the conflict: both sides are against my side. Unfortunately I can't take the same position as I do on Ukraine... because one of those sides has infected the data stream with propaganda and also convinced everyone that if anyone ever says out loud "hey I think we should stop and think about what's going on without always resorting to screaming down counter points" then everyone needs to go full tribal and scream "ANTISEMITISM". It naturally makes me want to take the other side, but I'm more familiar with the history the other side has with the Church over the last 1400 years and if I could choose one ideology to stamp out and remove from the Earth, it actually wouldn't be Communism, it'd be Islam. Also, as a national issue, the entrenchment of the pro-Israel elements in our government is complete and as far as I can tell, totally irreversible, so it's not like I can dream about that happening like I can with Ukraine. 3) Regarding holy sites... yeah, nobody cares about them, least of all the Zionists. Even mainline non-Zionist protestants who visit the Holy Land don't even know about the Basilica of the Nativity in Bethlehem. Roman Catholics might care if it got destroyed but they can't do anything about it, because they're having an existential crisis right now. They all thought they were safe and things were going to turn around under Benedict but have gotten a massive slap in the face wake up call from Francis. Maybe after all the boomers are dead they'll be able to start turning that ship around and get it to the point where they'd be able to do something about desecration of the holy sites but now ain't that time.

True. Not just Trump but Biden as well. Both sides support the same "solution" and claim the other side is just playing politics. Nobody talks about the money. https://truthout.org/articles/biden-is-rejecting-trumps-border-wall-but-proposing-his-own-virtual-wall/ President Joe Biden signed a number of immigration-related executive actions Tuesday continuing his reversals of former President Donald Trump’s harsh policies toward undocumented immigrants, asylum seekers, and refugees as part the new administration’s effort to pursue a more humanitarian approach to immigration and border enforcement. However, at least one of Biden’s proposals suggests that while he rejects Trump’s “big, beautiful wall” approach, he favors a different kind of “wall”: a ramping up of technology-driven surveillance at the border. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-virtual-border-wall/2020/07/02/7b380490-b0ac-11ea-a567-6172530208bd_story.html

I think one of the main problems in American society is that the individual workers in the "working class" - even the white collar ones at this point - kinda have a point about getting screwed by the business they work for. I can't speak for the blue collar except to say they have been pitted directly against their employers for over a century now and I don't expect it's a whole lot different these days. For the white collar, though, employees are probably more cogs in their machine than blue collar workers have been in a long, long time. I've been involved in hiring enough over the last 15 years to know how it goes: you look for someone with the skillset and you're basically not allowed to look at anything else. On-the-job training of someone you know will learn it and be a good fit aren't a thing anymore, at least not in IT. And yes, it used to be, 20 years ago. You make yourself look like a cog and you get picked up and put in the machine - which is exactly as fulfilling as it sounds. So it's no wonder this tired old saw keeps working - 'we're gonna protect workers'. The problem is that very few in American society understand or would even bother to look into how companies got to this point. For people who already hate the state it's kinda easy to see ways the state has made it this way. But for people who love the state, it's hopeless, and we're gonna get more state to fix problems the state causes.

Gee. If there was only a presidential candidate who would make the money issue front and center of the immigration debate: Rand Paul/Thomas Massie 2028. It's not like you have to convince a majority of Americans on the immigration issue:

Well....

FFS dude! Admit what? That accusations are sold proof of anything? How many accusations are there about Trump and Trump supporters? Some turned out to be true and some turned out to be false. You are a freaking cultist. There could actually be a fruitful discussion about what people agree on, like the fact that there is a gravy train of government spending that should be dealt with, and instead you want to double and tipple down on stupid. Trump shouldn't have said "Their eating the cats" without having anything but accusations that "they're eating the cats." He could have said "The federal government is subsidizing migrants to work for less than Americans, black white or other, are willing to work for in Springfield Ohio. And these migrants are getting cars and driving them without drivers licenses and its dangerous." Nobody would have had any come back to that. It would have gotten the same amount of positive coverage and no negative coverage. If Trump loses it will be because of stupid stunts like this where he takes a winning issue and makes it a losing one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crW7xS8mEQ0

Wait this guy is saying the non-citizens will get federal only ballots??

:rolleyes: Any intelligent person knows that you don't get on national TV and push a video that's already been debunked as your "proof" whether you are right or not. As I talked about in PAF's recent thread, had Trump and Vance talked about the money, as you are doing now, they would have been on solid ground. Go with the things you can absolutely prove. But I get it. You're unwilling to admit that anyone on team Trump ever makes a mistake.

Every black Republican member of Congress is from a majority white district. She won her GOP primary. I'm sure if she was running as a democrat she would be a shoe in.

Looking at the Liberty Candidates form, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?42-Liberty-Campaigns, Joe Kent and Lilly Tang Williams seem to be the only ones to have made it past their primaries, besides liberty incumbents like Thomas Massie.

You as well. But I don't think we ever "started." I was answering someone's point about the OP movie getting into theaters and explained that winning the election isn't the priority of the people who have the money to get such a movie into theaters. Folks are trying to a culture war as opposed to an election. And...that's fine. Everybody has their own priorities.

Okay. Well I was talking about J.D. Vance's unverified (read debunked) cat story and you started talking about the Bible. I have no idea what you meant by any of that but whatever. Have a great day!

I'm not sure what's confusing. I'm trying to agree with you. I guess I'm the one confused by your argument that peddling debunked videos about cat eating Haitians and going on meet the press and claiming that you "created" the story (when we all know J.D. Vance didn't), is somehow productive or not divisive or whatever it is that you're trying to say. So please...unconfuse me. Edit: This is the word salad I'm trying to parse: Whether stories are "verified" or "unverified" has little if anything to do with whether they also "bring people together" or "pull people apart". "Verified" stories can "pull people apart" - and "unverified" ones can "bring people together". (And that's not even getting into the questions of what "verified" really even means in the first place, which standards of "verification" ought to be applied to which stories under which circumstances, and so forth.)

Okay. Let you know if I ever find such a a movie? Such a what movie? A movie that attacks Kamala Harris? That's in the OP! And I'm not trying to "criticize" it. Quite the contrary I'm making the point that even though the right (supposedly) wants to beat Kamala Harris, they aren't going to support putting the only movie that I'm currently aware of that specifically attacks Kamala Harris into theatres. Nope. Their resources are going to win the "culture war" in between harping for Israel. But okay. However people want to spend their limited resources is on them. Clearly culture war issues and Israel are clearly more important to Ben Shapiro and company. Got it. And I'm betting the only "real racism" is against white people right?

Sure buddy. Whatever you say. Having J.D. Vance peddle an already debunked cat lady video is the way to win hearts and minds. Don't actually focus on the real issues because Nick Fuentes said not to. Just have funny playing in the kitty litter box playing to a base of MAGA hat wearing welfare recipients.