billjston4
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Just more repetition of the same old lies and dogma.

The whole thing is garbage correlation=causation propaganda that ignores all the other factors. Trade causes wars by causing trade dependency and trade disputes. America has been hemorrhaging manufacturing from free trade since WWII and a few small tariffs on just one or two industries is not going to halt or cause it. Fixing the devastation caused by free trade will possibly lead to some short term pain (not nearly what is fantasized) like ending any addiction, but it is necessary for long term good health and survival. That entire article is goal seeking analysis that ignores the 10 ton elephant in the room (the fed) and all the other elephants in the room that just cherry picks things that can be forced into looking bad for tariffs and ignores the overwhelming success of tariffs in building America from the beginning.

Pro-Fed propaganda. The tariffs did not cause the crash, the Fed did.

And notice that all we get in the post by PAF is a rote repetition of dogma and propaganda, not engagement on the facts and logic.

Sounds like you want no competition, after all free trade concentrates industries in the single country best able to manipulate it, and it concentrates governments into regional and then a single world government. America is a big country, we can have all the competition we need here, especially if we encourage it with smaller internal tariffs to produce lots of different competitors in different regions and states.

A Timely Reminder on Tariffs This is a repeat of a 2018 post that is itself a rehash from a paragraph of my 2009 book entitled The Return of the Great Depression. And contra Martin Armstrong and everyone else who is pontificating about how Trump’s proposed tariffs would “destroy the global economy”, it’s just not true, at least not on the historical comparison to which most of them are appealing. Every single talking head who makes any reference whatsoever to Smoot-Hawley is a poser and a fraud who knows nothing about economics or economic history. This is basically a variant of the “Um, Ricardo?” pseudo-rebuttal to an argument for tariffs or other forms of protectionism. It is proof that the speaker has heard about the subject, but doesn’t actually know the subject at all. The point is so trivial that I dealt with it in a single paragraph in The Return of the Great Depression ten 16 years ago and haven’t seen the need to mention it again since until now. For many years, it was supposed that the Smoot-Hawley tariff of 1930 played a major role in the economic contraction of the Great Depression. As more economists are gradually coming to realize, this was unlikely to have been the case for several reasons. First, the 15.5 percent annual decline in exports from 1929 to 1933 was less precipitous than the pre-tariff 18.3 percent decline from 1920 to 1922. Second, because the amount of imports also fell, the net effect of the $328 million reduction in the balance of trade on the economy amounted to only 0.3 percent of 1929 GDP. Third, the balance of trade turned negative and by 1940 had increased to nearly ten times the size of the 1929 positive balance while the economy was growing.

Doesn't matter. Trump calls the shots on foreign policy, none of his cabinet members last time did.

It's garbage no matter who says it. Just like all the claims Trump was going to do what Bolton wanted last time.

At DEA he has nothing to do with anything like Covid or guns. Trump has removed him from being in a position to tyrannize a county, hopefully after his job is filled back home Trump will fire him. But in the mean time his record would indicate he'd be soft on drugs, which should please libertarians.

What's your excuse going to be when he does? Your routine is getting old.

He's not going to run ATF.

Bunk.

We have every right to keep the migrants out of our territory and to remove any that sneaked in. You can host them right up until they are deported, if they refrain from murdering you in that time.

You can always come detox at Timeless Authors. :)

Yeah, this recycled leftist propaganda doesn't even need a response. The election is over so no votes will be suppressed, and when Trump takes office and begins Making America Great Again the OP will age like the manure it is.

We'll consider it, if they leave the red counties and we get Alberta.

Probably because the state took the data private and doctored it before making it public again, the sources linked to it 4 years ago before it got hidden and changed.

LOL "Your people" voted for the party that forced the pervert garbage down everyone's throats, and they did it all over the country not just in one of the most leftist states in the country. Clinton did Waco, bombed Serbia, instituted "Don't ask, Don't Tell" to let perverts into the military and many other evil things. Obama kept the wars going, he did NOT "end Iraq", he also did too many horrible evil things to count, including ending "Don't ask, Don't tell" and allowing open perverts into the military. "Your people" disproportionately use abortions and commit crimes etc. etc. etc. I've tried to keep race out of this, but if you insist on taking us there then you are stuck with the facts about race.

Neither of your fake sources have put there supposed original dataset anywhere that it can actually be downloaded. Nice way to be able to keep someone from independently verifying their claims.

Your people overwhelming voted for gay marriage when blacks, Mulsims and Latinos voted against it so STFU. And there weren't enough secular Jews in California to account for that. Also Clinton and Obama didn't pass the Patriot Act or create the Department of Homeland Insecurity or lead America into a disasterous war in Iraq. Obama actually got us out of that war even though he later f'ed up with Libya and Syria.

It was not a lie, they have had 4 years to change the numbers.

No, but it sure beats voting for Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Clinton, and still leaning towards Harris. Minorities, immigrants, and illegal migrants have given overwhelming support to the party of open evil for generations, while whites gave majority support to the party that claimed to oppose it. YOU brought it into the thread and you kept reinserting it:

So since two people tell the same lie that makes it the truth? :rolleyes: I actually went through the numbers and told you how to do it if you wanted to. But you would believe a lie rather than the truth.

You're right. We'll never know. But notice that even your reasoning for why Ron Paul might not have done so well with blacks also goes back to an obvious appeal to white racism that was done in his name. Those newsletters are the only blot on an otherwise great record. I can explain away his Civil Rights Act vote. On the newsletters I just say "Well he didn't write them" but that's still not good. If the newsletters were pushing for gender affirming surgeries for minors I doubt many here would give them a pass just because he didn't write them. I'm willing to look past race baiting to a certain extent. Not everybody is. Trump did a lot of race baiting this time and still made modest gains percentagewise and didn't trigger a major voting "blacklash." Oh, and by the way, that's the answer to the "What happened to the millions of Biden voters from 2020" question. They stayed home. Anyhow, Trump could make some real inroads in these next few years. He could follow through on the Platinum Plan. He could pardon the Uhuru 3. (Black people that Biden prosecuted for speaking out against the Ukraine War and going to the U.N. to speak out against genocide of African people in the U.S. and around the world.) He could get Tim Scott's police reform bill passed. He basically could complete being George C. Wallace. (Progressive who cloaked himself in segregationist rhetoric but ultimately came out of the closet as a progressive.)

:rolleyes: Ah. So voting for George W. Bush is something for your race to be proud of? And it's funny that you bring up race and then you lie and say I "drag it back to race." Then you, being a consumate liar, ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of those involved in drag queen story hour are white people, then cherry pick one story of illegal immigrants hosting a drag show, you ignore the fact that Muslims and Latinos and blacks voted for to ban gay marriage while white people in California voted against they ban, and you lie and say it's all about voting patterns. Whatever dude.

Again, you fail to comprehend anything, of course both sources were citing the same government data, that's what they both were exposing, they couldn't cite something else when making claims about the government data. The second source was the person who contacted the Epoch Times who was different than the person who was the one who posted the information in the other article.

I talk about culture and who various populations actually vote for, you always drag it back to race, cherry pick a few people or pieces of history, and try to place blame on the majority of whites while claiming nonwhites to be superior. Every step of the way you bring up race and lie about whites. Me: You: Total garbage as I pointed out, perversion has always been everywhere, but you try to make it out to be something whites invented.

You are the racist. You are the one obssessed with race. You attack other people's cultures and when I call you out on it by showing facts from European culture you lie and claim I'm the one who brought up race. GTFO. This is how these conversations go racist. Racist Swordsmyth : "These immigrants are degrading American culture." jmdrake: "Eurpoean culture is just as degraded as any other culture." Racist Swordsmyth : "You're racist for talking about European culture."

Bullshyt. The "second source" was just a Chinese language version of the Epoch Times which went to the same Pennsylvania Database. Your original bullshyt. The so called "second source." So a second person went supposedly went to the same database and gave the same bullshyt? It's the same damn source liar.

But at the same time you were wanting Trump to specifically appeal to white people. He did that with the racist "Eating the cats, eating the dogs" campaign angle. You got what you wanted. You want more black people voting Republican? You need to run someone like this: Edit: And Donald Trump doesn't have a bad record when it comes to black people. Obama had taken millions of dollars earmarked for HBCUs and instead put it in the general education fund for everybody. https://www.tmcf.org/events-media/tmcf-in-the-media/scold-in-chief-the-love-hate-relationship-between-hbcus-and-president-obama/ Trump restored the HBCU funding and then made it permanent.