Yesterday, 01:25 PM
Bottom line is the "PUA types" (whether they are doing it on purpose, or whether it comes natural to them) are the ones the girls have sex with at the end of the day, and the guys who aren't like that have very little to no sex in comparison. The thing is, even most women who SAY they don't like that type of guy will say that all day long, then they will go fuck that type of guy anyway. Very few actually mean it when they say it (you may be one of them, but based on the gas lighting thread you may not :confused:). Men have heard it over and over, and then watched the results, and the ones who can have become assholes so they can get laid more often.
If women actually wanted guys to be nicer, then it would be a very easy problem to solve. I'm just not convinced that is what they really want.