Deborah K
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Thought I said that. I have a better idea. Last one out of the Union gets stuck with the national debt. I need to turn that into a bumper sticker. LAST ONE OUT OF THE UNION GETS STUCK WITH THE NATIONAL DEBT

Those particular white people you're talking about are an external threat. Or, at least they are here. Just not external enough to suit me--yet. All we have to do is say fuck you, and make it stick. And out here, we can make it stick.

That's the sucker play. We aren't going to make this work. People literally think Trump's going to do things he didn't even try to do before. It's the definition of insanity. I'd rather husband my resources against the day when people finally figure that out. Maybe we can get ahead of their next "here's your pacifier" psyop personality, the way we did in 2008. There's nothing left but to make sure the door doesn't hit us in the ass. So, trying to stop the insanity, trying to negotiate with the unreasonable, and trying to mitigate the damage are fool's errands. They want to make things intolerable? Good. Rub my fellow heartlanders' noses in the shit until they figure it out. In that respect I'm all for Trump's installation, in hopes the screwing he gives us will wake people up. And I am dead set against it, because rank and file Republicans will take one hell of a screwing from another Republican, and say it's for "The Team". You see evidence of it all over this forum. Ultimately I hope they are stupid enough to reinstall Biden, because that would get men off their asses. But that's so glaringly obviously not the plan, a thousand phonied up indictments notwithstanding...

I agree, 100%. But until that movement coalesces into something actually functional, we're going to have to work with people we don't agree with on certain things. Hell, even then we're going to have to work with people we don't agree with on certain things. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were as far apart politically as Thomas Massie and Ted Cruz, I'd say. Maybe even more so. Yet we're going to need Ted Cruz if we're going to make this work..,

From 92% in the wee hours of the morning? Unleash the bots!

People can be united behind the idea. That'll do for me. I just don't want to trade our brown people for a bunch of lily-white practitioners of critical race theory. There are some seriously undesirable white people between Fredrick and Fredericksburg. Don't want to trade one single Cherokee or Osage for any of them. Keep them on your own coast. I still think that's the main difference between us. You need to bug out to flyover county and relax. I believe tod evans can hook you up with some beautiful Ozark mountain acreage that won't cost half of what you get selling out up there. From fifteen hundred miles away, The Bronx is but a thing to joke about.

Don't think any more votes are needed... https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1733415326237261863 1733415326237261863

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As I recall, the cat was the only character in Animal Farm who made out. Except the pigs and dogs, of course, but the cat didn't even come out ashamed to look in a mirror. Sometimes all you can do is step back and hope one side doesn't have enough of an advantage to come out of it in one piece. It was worth fighting for, back in the seventies when routing them would have been easier. Everyone was too caught up, however, in bragging they got whitewall radials for their Cutlasses at that time. Where are those polyester leisure suits now? Trump won't even try to fix this. Secession is the answer. Clearly we simply cannot even live peacefully with New Yorkers from fifteen hundred miles away. We need to expunge them from our political system.

Cap is providing snark and sarcasm to this conversation. Yeah, you can make a point with sarcasm, but odds are it's not gonna change a mind. This is a conundrum being forced upon us, and at some point it WILL require taking sides, and being bedfellows with folks who aren't 100% aligned with us, ideologically. Anything else is just herding cats.

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And purchasers of electric vehicles are still subsidized. And SpaceX is still putting government satellites in orbit. They ratchet up the intolerable just to back halfway back down. That's all Trump is. I stand by my line in the sand, and this good guys/bad guys soap opera doesn't impress me.

We associate the Spanish language with brown people. But that's not who invented it...

Cap is also making a valid point. Both "sides" are herds, and both are being herded. What good does it do anyone to see people switching herds? Tyranny always follows on the heels of a great victory. Batista was a bum who needed to be thrown out. Chaing Kai-shek was a bum who needed to be thrown out. Nicholas II was a bum who needed to be thrown out. I'm sick of problem -> reaction -> tyranny. We have a real solution. Why would we work toward their "solution"? Are we fools? I'm glad more people are seeing the problem, yes. But if the only "cure" they know about is worse than the disease, I'm not going to Walgreen's for it. Even if it is free.

You may notice that AF offered no prescription for anyone else. He only stated what his preferences are. I don't see any reason that he should be castigated for that, agree or disagree with him.

But to the people spending billions (of mostly other people's money) to create them, that's not a failure. That's a feature. Point extinguisher at the base of flames. Otherwise all the dry chemical will be exhausted and you'll have nothing left to do but roast marshmallows.

Dude. You're accusing someone of not wanting to have a serious conversation, but you brought up a proven tool as if he was the answer to something. "People are switching from one Publicized Candidate to the other in defiance of their demographics!" Yes. And...? That's why divide and conquer works so well. Many people will figure out they're on the wrong side, but by then they can't coalesce around anyone who might possibly do them any good. People who can't figure it out just decide which herd to run with. Just as long as they are both more concerned with each other than with me--and more or less the same size, so there's enough attrition. Sorry. I tried giving a damn. Waste of time.

https://twitter.com/_Bay17d/status/1733201037928829411 1733201037928829411

Is the problem the U.N, or is it the U.S? It might be better off without us. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1733227968946680155 1733227968946680155

https://twitter.com/cosminDZS/status/1733224851392127244 1733224851392127244

Clearly! I mean, he pardoned them both last time, right? So he has a track record, right? Right? They won't. I've asked before. They clearly don't have much patience with people who lack faith in the Reverend Sun Trump Moon.

Donald Trump blames everything on everyone, and has been doing it for eight years. If we documented it all we could fill a library. Blame everyone, admit responsibility for nothing--no wonder certain people feel such a kinship with him. So, you'll have to be more specific.

See, that's why everyone else considers white people so dangerous. Not because more of us are psycho, but because we take a second or two to aim.