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This is starting to get embarrassing. His family should be ashamed of themselves.

Well both of you haven't been paying attention. It will likely come out, after the election of course, that there were over 100, possibly hundreds of intelligence assets at the Capitol on J6.. we also know they bussed in antifa, who put on Trump gear and pretended to be Trump supporters. Yes, there were likely some violent Trump supporters there who got riled up by the crowd.. how many.. maybe a dozen? Two dozen? I dunno... but there were over 100,000 Trump supporters in DC that day, so that is pretty reasonable to me.

LOL my gf teaches sociology at a local college... I sent this to her

Lol, ya, even though he was trying to be as un-biased as possible, and came off as very reasonable compared to most of his associates, there was still a lot missing from that whole exchange.

You should apply some of his logic to the Israel/Palestine conflict.

If you think being pro-Palestine for 8 or 9 years, then changing your mind and being pro-Israel for the next 8-9 years is "bi-polar", you've obviously never had a girlfriend who is bi-polar. You keep harping on this whole thing about Israel "planning" Oct. 7. What did they do? They let down their guard, didn't defend the border? Isn't that what your side wants? Don't you want them to take down the wall and open up the borders? Isn't that the whole point? What am I missing?

Well if you or your kids are going to take sociology, hope that you get this guy. Is it 30 unarmed black people killed by police each year or is it 8?

No, he definitely admits to some during the main show. You seem to forget I used to be pro-Palestine, I remember posting that map with their territory shrinking and shrinking over the years. I used to go to pro-Palestine protests. I would have agreed with your analogy about the US getting occupied. Then I found out it was all bullshit, Palestine sucks, they want to kill all the Jews and take back "their land" which is also mostly bullshit.

Why yes, yes it would. Completely different scenario. Unfortunately cannot link to the after show, it's behind a paywall..

21:54 of the video in the OP.. you could literally say the same thing about Palestinians in Gaza, toward Israel.. Also there is a ton of debunked propaganda from the other side, propaganda is part of war. Both sides are at war. That is what war looks like. Nobody has given me a good reason to support the Palestinian side in that war.. and I used to support the Palestinian side, I've even been to anti-Israel pro-Palestine protests back in the day. Then I learned about the real history of modern day Israel. I agree we shouldn't be funding either side, but I'm not going to root for the destruction of Israel by terrorists.

Blumenthal was on a 2 hour Timcast IRL episode months ago, saw it, along with the 1 hour member's only aftershow. He admitted to many of the Hamas attrocities I speak of, like when Israel would go to bomb a building in Gaza with military equipment, they would flair the building and announce the bombing on loudspeakers so civilians could get out and Hamas would stand outside armed and trap the civilians in the building so they could use the innocent deaths as propaganda to get more funding from Iran. We know they take the fresh water pipes that were built for them, dig them up, put the fertilizer given to them to grow crops to make rockets to fire at Israel. Then complain they don't have food and water.. I take some of the Oct 7 claims with a grain of salt, what we do know about what they did is enough for me. Shooting up a hippie music festival, taking all the hostages.. I've been to those festivals, like, the exact same kind with the same psytrance music, same "community", I've almost certainly seen some of the DJs that were there at the festival live..

Glad to know you openly hate freedom and are freely willing to admit it. Lame.

Yes comrade, we must all submit our individual needs for the collective good of the government.

How many did he say?

Well if the cost disparity is big enough, then it is indeed reasonable.

Ya I think it may have been a goose. Looks a little small to be a goat. Could be a dog or cat, but not sure they would do that out in the open.. never know.

How many? And yes I'm aware of the evidence you presented.. I'm not convinced it was LIHOP, but I do agree there is circumstantial evidence. I've heard claims from your side that there were hundreds of casualties as a result of IDF actions, but there was only evidence of one or two, which were reported by Israel media. I still think my analogy is fitting, in fact it swerves in your favor, because as far as I can tell, the only reason the security system went down was a power outage. But in the case of LIHOP, the analogy is the literal definition. You're now trying to push it further into a MIHOP where Israel significantly increased increased the amount of deaths, while simultaneously significantly reducing the number of hostages. Do you realize there are still US hostages in Gaza?? It's been over a year. Do you understand what happens if they don't deploy the Hannibal option? Don't they have to assume every vehicle they want to bomb is carrying a hostage? If they raid some guys with guns in a building with a hostage, does that mean they go in and start shooting rather than get a bullhorn out and start negotiating? This is war, they need to kill the terrorists and get on to the next group of terrorists so they can save lives.

You're confusing multiple things there. Nice try though: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman I don't think so, but even if true, so what? Languages change over time and communication forms evolve. That's been human history since day 1. So you want to restrict the free movement of people and products in order to satisfy some sort of idealized world in your head? I think you're on the wrong forum here dude...

Yes, supply chains need redundancy, and Just In Time can be problematic in times of crisis as COVID proved. But that's a different issue entirely. What you're advocating is this: - We should all buy from our own country because closer to home is better then... - We should all buy from our own state becuase closer to home is better

The best source for funding the government are user fees.

So you want a tax to force people to pay more money for goods and services? That is the very definition of statism and central-planning.

Oct 7 was also a Holiday, which could explain the lack of defenses. I don't know for certain to what extent any of that is true, whether they LIHOP, but I certainly am not denying the possibility. The question is, if you found out some criminal was planning a home invasion and you turned off your home security system and waited by the door with a shot gun and shot them when they entered your house, is that a false flag? Could you be charged with a crime? Is that a moral action? I don't think 9/11 was planned by Bin Laden, I think there was a lot of planning and pre-knowledge beforehand from intel agencies. I don't think the 9/11 hijackers flew the planes into the buildings, I think they were flown into buildings. I don't think the buildings came down on their own, I think there were pre-planted explosives. Now THAT'S a false flag. Letting down your guard and letting the enemy come in on their own accord and slaughtering hippies at a music festival and children and people in those villages, that's not exactly a false flag. You could call it a LIHOP, though. Is that a moral action? Do they want to keep living in terror forever, with rockets constantly flying over their cities? Or did they want to make it stop and this was how they chose to do it?

Like RFK and Tulsi... just because they are excellent on 1 or 2 issues we like, doesn't mean they are someone we want in office.

He isn't that great. He sold out on Obamacare for instance.

You debate like one of my crazy leftist friends with TDS sometimes.