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    03-20-2019, 06:06 AM
    Capitalism is best described as the investment of capital to realize a profit and sometimes achieve economic goals. Free enterprise and free markets is best described as people being left free to pursue economic interests as each sees fit and left free to mutually agree in their contracts and associations. Capitalists have money working for them, while those involved in free enterprise work for their money. Capitalism gave us Obama’s green energy investment swindle, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Enron, Bernard Madoff, our current student loan crisis and other capital investment schemes, while free enterprise gave us such things as the phone, the model T Ford, mass production, the mom and pop bakery, local plumber, carpenter, electrician and dentist.
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    03-19-2019, 02:35 PM
    And those who today attack "free enterprise" attack it by referring to "capitalism" which avoids attacking something indicating freedom., such as free enterprise and a free market system, free being the operative word. JWK
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    03-19-2019, 02:15 PM
    I agree with you, but add to the mix the Sixteenth Amendment and current taxation which is equally part of our centrally controlled economic system. JWK Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims to be an advocate of hard working people living in the Bronx. If that is so, why is she not advocating an end to the unconstitutional “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943, which began federal confiscation of the bread which working people have earned by the sweat of their labor?
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    03-19-2019, 02:10 PM
    What my claim is, our founders, to the best of my knowledge, have never used the words capitalist or capitalism during the framing and ratification debates of our constitution, nor have I ever come across their using those words to describe our economic system. If you can provide such a quote, please, feel free to post it. In any event, the more important issue is, and the real subject of the thread is, Capitalism vs Socialism vs our free enterprise system. What is your choice? Are you still insistent on muddying the waters? JWK
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    03-19-2019, 12:47 PM
    Perhaps you should read it very slowly, and then read the question you posted to me. I am one of the few who have actually read our constitution's framing and ratification debates, in addition to reviewing many contemporary writings of our founders. And I never came across their use of the words "capitalist" or "capitalism". The link and quote I provided is prima fascia evidence supporting my conclusion. Do you have a quote from one of our founding fathers to the contrary? JWK
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    03-19-2019, 07:49 AM
    If you had followed my link instead of attempting to muddy the waters you would have seen: In French, Étienne Clavier referred to capitalistes in 1788, six years before its first recorded English usage by Arthur Young in his work Travels in France (1792). :rolleyes:
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    03-19-2019, 06:52 AM
    I too reject propagandists co-opting words and altering their meaning such as our homosexual crowd’s use of the word “gay” , or the sexual pervert crowd using LSDG or whatever the hell they are now using to hide what they really are … sexual deviants! But with reference to capitalist, a word never used by our founders, its meaning generally indicates the investment of money to accomplish an industrial or manufacturing end, and it can occur by the hand of government and/or the hand of private citizens. Karl Marx popularized the word “capitalist” and “capitalist mode of production”, which appear more than 2600 times in the trilogy “Das Kapital” . LINK On the other hand our Founder’s often describe our system in a manner promoting a “free” market, “free” trade, or “free” enterprise ___ “free” being the operative word. For example see Thomas Jefferson’s First Annual Message to Congress: ”Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise.” Now, in reference to your comment about crony capitalism, it is irrefutable that it is being practiced by our government, and in defiance of the terms of our Constitution which was designed to protect a free enterprise, free market system.
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    03-18-2019, 07:13 AM
    I get the distinct impression you despise and reject using “free” enterprise, and “free” market, to describe our system. Why? Tell me, what was it called when federal capital was used to advance Obama’s green energy money laundering operation? What was it called when the Republicans doled out federal capital from our federal treasury to finance the farm subsidy bill in 2008. And what do you call Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s and Bernie Sanders’ form of capitalism, which promises to use federal capital from our federal treasury to advance their goals, which simply creates different privileged classes and preferential treatment would continue under their form of capitalism, by which I mean the investment of capital to advance a goal? The truth is, the word capitalist was unknown to our founders and it was popularized by Karl Marks to attack the free market, free enterprise system our founders intended to protect with a written constitution. He used the term 2600 times in the trilogy Das Kapital
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    03-17-2019, 03:15 PM
    Once free enterprise system. JWK Do you really want single payer government operated health-care? Move into public housing , live there for a year, and then make your decision about government run healthcare.
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    03-16-2019, 03:20 PM
    Do you approve of capital from our federal treasury being distributed and "invested" by Congress to advance industry and manufacturing? JWK
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    03-16-2019, 02:38 PM
    For distinctions between our system, as intended by our Founders, and “Capitalism”, see: PART TWO: Free Enterprise is Better than Capitalism The following descriptions of “Capitalism” and “Free Enterprise” are noted as follows: Capitalism (crony capitalism) : A system where the law encourages market forces and also gives preference and special benefits to the sector of the economy owned by big capital—including big corporations like in Corporatism, but also wealthy foreign and multinational corporations, and highly influential non-corporate institutions such as rich foundations, moneyed trusts, political parties, well-funded lobbies and special interest groups, affluent non-profit entities, wealthy families, moneyed foreign investors, and others with large amounts of capital. Under this system, the rich rule society, and they naturally influence government to maintain policies that benefit the rich more than others. Free Enterprise: A system where the law encourages market forces and gives no special preferences; it protects equal rights for all individuals and entities and leaves initiative and enterprise to private individuals, groups, businesses and organizations that are all treated equally and with minimal legislation by the legal code.
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    03-16-2019, 11:08 AM
    Yes. They need to read those sections, e.g., Yale Law’s John Fabian Witt as cited two possible statutes that the White House could use in an executive order or proclamation. One was U.S. Code § 2293, which allows the Secretary of the Army in a national emergency to “apply the resources of the Department of the Army’s civil works program … the construction, operation, maintenance, and repair of authorized civil works, military construction, and civil defense projects that are essential to the national defense.”The other was U.S. Code § 2808, which allows the Defense Secretary during a national emergency to “undertake military construction projects … not otherwise authorized by law that are necessary to support such use of the armed forces. Such projects may be undertaken only within the total amount of funds that have been appropriated for military construction.” LINK JWK
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    03-16-2019, 10:07 AM
    Did you read the following? The bottom line is, the 12 Republicans who voted against Trump's actions voted against Trump acting within the authorized limits of the National Emergencies Act. If they really are against Trump, or any other future president being able to redirect funds as stated in the NEA, their option is to introduce legislation to alter the ACT. But to go against President Trump, for exercising a lawful delegation of power, is an attack upon our very system of government. JWK Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims to be an advocate of hard working people living in the Bronx. If that is so, why is she not advocating an end to the unconstitutional “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943, which began federal confiscation of the bread which working people have earned by the sweat of their labor?
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    03-16-2019, 09:37 AM
    And? A new budget is created every year, with specific allocations made, including those mentioned in the NEA. JWK In every communist dictatorial oppressive country, like Cuba, the people are disarmed. Forewarned is forearmed.
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    03-16-2019, 09:04 AM
    Keep in mind when reading the following, we are talking about The National Emergencies Act, and specifically 10 U.S. Code Section 2808 and 33 U.S. Code Section 2293. which delegate certain powers to the President under a declared emergency. The rule is, a legislature may not delegate to a subordinate body authority to do something that is beyond its own powers, and an improper delegation of legislative power, although acted on, is without force!___ See Am Jur vol. 16, Constitutional law, LEGISLATIVE POWER, RULE BARRING DELEGATION But, ''It will not be contended,'' wrote Chief Justice Marshall in 1825, ''that congress can delegate to the courts, or to any other tribunals, powers which are strictly and exclusively legislative. But congress may certainly delegate to others, powers which the legislature may rightfully exercise itself.'' Wayman v. Southard, 23 U.S. (10 Wheat.) 1, 41 (1825). The simple truth is, committees, boards, and other bodies created by Congress or appointed by the President do not have constitutionally authorized power to create law which the Congress, and only the Congress___ the people’s elected Senators and Representatives ___ are charged with creating. To allow an unelected body to create law would be in violation of our Constitution’s guarantee to a “Republican Form of Government”.
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    03-14-2019, 10:04 AM
    In defense of Mike Gallagher, I do not consider him an enemy to our constitutionally limited system of government. But he does make errors from time to time, and not making the distinction between our “free” market, “free” enterprise system from today’s “Crony Capitalism” is one of those errors. Unfortunately, a number of Fox News Channel’s personalities also make the same error. I just though addressing this error may open the eyes of some who have unsuspectingly allowed the “left” to control language in order to obscure their true intentions. JWK It was February of 2019 when an ongoing invasion of America’s borders swelled to tens of thousands a month, not a shot was fired to defend the borders of the United States, and America’s domestic enemies, socialists, communists and anarchists in Congress, pushed forward with their attempt to embrace the invasion in hopes of conquering a prosperous and freedom loving people.
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    03-14-2019, 06:43 AM
    . Under Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s and Bernie Sanders’ socialist agenda, today's crony capitalism would be on display, but with newly created privileged classes and preferential treatment would remain the order of the day. But under a free enterprise/free market system, as our founders intended, no preferential treatment is to be expected while the inalienable right of people being free to mutually agree in their contracts and associations would be a primary priority of government. JWK The Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s socialism, AKA Crony Capitalism, will promise food on the table, free public housing, health care for all, guaranteed income, free college tuition, and other niceties by taxing the so called rich; and if by chance their socialist leadership gains control because of such promises made, the end result, as John Adams stated, “will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel” especially for the most productive, hardworking members of the community.
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    03-13-2019, 10:14 PM
    The Judge Explains the Difference between Capitalism and free Markets JWKThe Federal Reserve System of 1913 and the Sixteenth Amendment, also of 1913, have spread the evil tentacles of capitalism into almost every corner of our once free market system.
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    03-12-2019, 06:18 AM
    That is true. Note how our federal government has conspired with bankers and created a money monopoly called the Federal Reserve, a group of private banks, and has made their notes a legal tender for all debts, public and private, in spite of our founders specifically rejecting such power to be granted to Congress. Indeed, this creation can justly be called the heart and soul of capitalism ___ a money monopoly in which a particular bank's interest bearing notes have been made a legal tender, which in essence has been a slow but sure death sentence for a free market system. JWK "We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it". — Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)
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    03-12-2019, 06:01 AM
    There is nothing, absolutely nothing in the Constitution remotely suggesting a power is granted to Congress to make notes of any kind, a legal tender for all debts, public and private. In fact, during the debates on this very question as I have documented, a vote was taken which satisfied Madison "that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts." The fact is, our founders specifically rejected a power to allow our federal government to make notes of any kind, a legal tender. Why are you making stuff up? JWK "Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring class of mankind, none have been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money. This is the most effectual of inventions to fertilize the rich man's field by the sweat of the poor man's brow."_____ Daniel Webster.
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    03-11-2019, 05:08 PM
    This has been one of my pet peeves for many years. Just like homosexuals co-opted the word "gay' to soften and obscure what they really are, the word "capitalism" is used by socialists and communists to attack our free market system without having to use phraseology containing the word "free". It's more convenient and sort of innocuous to condemn evil "capitalists" and "capitalism", then to opposed and attack those engaging if free enterprise, free trade or a free market system. Students in many colleges are taught by their professors that capitalism is evil, and that we now live under a capitalist system ___ therefore our system must be changed. Have you noticed how Cortez gains support for her socialist/communist agenda? JWK
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    03-11-2019, 02:19 PM
    I hate to admit it but on Mike Gallagher’s radio talk show he attacks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for indicating capitalism is “irredeemable”, and he goes on to condemn the former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper for refusing to acknowledge he’s a “capitalist”. What is inexcusable is, Mike Gallagher takes great pride in labeling and embracing what our founders created as being “capitalism” or a “capitalist” system. But these references were unknown to our founders, and never used by them to identify our system. In fact “capitalism” was used and popularized by Karl Marx to falsely identify our free market system, and then attack it without appearing to attack freedom itself ___ the inalienable right of people being free to mutually agree in their contracts and associations.
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    03-09-2019, 08:12 AM
    To be frank, the dollar has not been destroyed! Let us not confuse federal reserve notes with the “dollar”. There is a big distinction between the two and confusing the two avoids a discussion as to why our founding fathers specifically intended to forbid notes of any kind to be made a legal “tender either for public or private debts“! The slide of hand which has taken place, and which even Ron Paul has yet to articulate is, a thieving money monopoly has been created by the simple act of making “federal reserve notes” a LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE which is in defiance of our founding fathers intentions as documented in The Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787, reported by James Madison : August 16 This vote in the affirmative by Virga. was occasioned by the acquiescence of Mr. Madison who became satisfied that striking out the words would not disable the Govt. from the use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; & would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender either for public or private debts. Our founding fathers were firm believers in a free market system and allowing the federal government to declare a specific bank’s notes to be a legal tender would literally create a government approved money monopoly and would force people and businesses to accept notes in payment of debt, even if they were not “safe and proper”. If you get time I suggest you read Roger Sherman’s A Caveat Against Injustice … An inquiry into the evils of a fluctuating medium of exchange. Sherman who lived in Connecticut was defrauded by a legal tender law made in Rhode Island which required him to accept worthless script in payment of debt which had been made a legal tender under the force of government. As one of the delegates to the Convention which framed our Constitution, he was therefore determined to prohibit our government from emitting bills on the credit of the united States and likewise prohibiting notes of any kind to be made a legal tender in payment of debt to avoid the fraud which historically takes place without such prohibitions.
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    03-08-2019, 07:29 AM
    There was no lie. What I wrote was: I take it you equate our forefathers and the United States Constitution with “collectivism” and something to recoil from. I offered an opinion based upon the use of the word "collectivism" by CaptUSA as an intolerable sin. I wasn't even responding to you!:rolleyes: Here is the original post, and it had nothing to do with you! But you had to but in. The fact is, our founders came together, in a collective manner, and produced a document which actually promotes good government, and which I view as a miracle.
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    03-07-2019, 04:40 PM
    There is no surer way to weaken, subdue, demoralize and then conquer a prosperous and freedom loving people than by allowing and encouraging the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries to invade that country, and make the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of said invaders. JWK It was February of 2019 when an ongoing invasion of America’s borders swelled to tens of thousands a month, not a shot was fired to defend the borders of the United States, and America’s domestic enemies, socialists, communists and anarchists in Congress, pushed forward with their attempt to embrace the invasion in hopes of conquering a prosperous and freedom loving people.
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    03-07-2019, 04:34 PM
    Are you really suggesting there are no legitimate reasons for denying foreigners entry into the United States? I think your intention is to blow smoke and nothing more. JWK
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    03-07-2019, 03:22 PM
    And I continued: Of course, your thinking could be based upon inductive reasoning rather than deductive reasoning, and therefore your conclusions could all be false. I lied about nothing. Why do you accuse me of lying? JWK
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    03-07-2019, 03:18 PM
    So, you can't give an explanation in your own words and prefer to post an adolescent insult? :rolleyes: JWK Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims to be an advocate of hard working people living in the Bronx. If that is so, why is she not advocating an end to the unconstitutional “Temporary Victory Tax” of 1943, which began federal confiscation of the bread which working people have earned by the sweat of their labor?
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    03-07-2019, 03:14 PM
    Hmmmm. Bait and switch. Not a very sincere way to respond my post. JWK "If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?"___ Justice Story
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    03-07-2019, 03:09 PM
    No. My question was, What unconstitutional power grab are you talking about? Can you explain the charge in your own words? JWK Do you really want single payer government operated health-care? Move into public housing , live there for a year, and then make your decision about government run healthcare.
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