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  • invisible's Avatar
    Today, 11:16 AM
    Ron Paul was very clear and explicit in what it would take to secure our borders. Using that line to shyll for trump's big government police state is more direct opposition to Ron Paul.
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    Today, 10:15 AM
    Again, do you seriously believe that Ron Paul would do things that he specifically campaigned against? Ron Paul stated many times how he would secure the border by bringing our troops home from defending other countries' borders, to defend our own. He is specifically against all the other big government police state things that trump has done or is trying to do in the name of securing the border. What about this do you not understand?
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    Today, 10:08 AM
    Can't wait for the trumpettes and shylls to tell us how great this is! https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/16/alarm-trump-requests-permanent-reauthorization-nsa-mass-spying-program-exposed
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Today, 09:26 AM
    Do you seriously believe that quote means that Ron Paul would go directly against what he campaigned on? If so, then that is to say that Ron Paul is lying about his positions, and to thus directly oppose him.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Today, 09:10 AM
    More direct opposition to Ron Paul. Calling Ron Paul a leftist is the typical attack used when those who oppose him are unable to defend their indefensible positions. Because Ron Paul's and trump's positions on how they would secure the border are in direct opposition to each other.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Today, 09:02 AM
    Raising the debt ceiling is a good way for trump to continue his expansion of the big government police state.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Today, 08:57 AM
    I'm sure it would be pretty easy to find work with trump's re-election campaign or one of the three-letter agencies, making 39+ posts a day here calling immigrants "invaders" and Ron Paul supporters "leftists" and "communists".
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:09 PM
    Where has anyone claimed that Ron Paul has changed his position on securing the border? It's always remained consistent.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:36 PM
    Lots of winning! More than ever before! A debt ceiling increase must have been considered essential by trump, so that he could continue to abuse people in his concentration camps. On the taxpayer's dime, of course. Some people must think that this is somehow conservative.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:29 PM
    Ron Paul's positions on immigration have everything to do with this thread. That's exactly what this thread is about. This thread was only started as an attempt to make Ron Paul = trump (or vice versa), by someone whose entire purpose here is to shyll for trump and oppose Ron Paul. So if the OP wants to discuss Ron Paul's immigration policy, it is therefore necessary to discuss how it differs from trump's immigration policy, and why genuine Ron Paul supporters support Ron Paul's immigration policy, while at the same time, opposing trump's immigration policy. In other words, supporting Ron Paul's immigration policy is to oppose trump's immigration policy. PAF has already kindly provided Ron Paul's immigration policy, with regards to walling our country in (like communist countries such as north korea and east germany). Let's take the next way in which Ron Paul's immigration policy differs from trump's immigration policy, which is the abuse of those held in US custody. The person shylling for trump claims that there is with trump. But abuse of those in US custody absolutely IS officially part of trump's immigration policy: https://ktla.com/2019/08/15/9th-circuit-dismisses-appeal-by-u-s-government-saying-some-migrant-children-may-not-need-soap/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/safe-sanitary-no-soap-beds-court-migrants-trump-850744/
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 11:59 AM
    Huh? Are you trying to claim that I am somehow lying about Ron Paul's positions, to push a narrative that is contrary to them?
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 11:27 AM
    PAF hasn't said any of those things, it's right there in what he quoted: That's one of the things we all agree is great about Ron Paul: he's been extremely consistant in his positions over the decades. And yes, there is a lot of overreacting and using the issue of illegal immigration to demand a police state. Look at all the "communist invaders" collectivist hyperbole that the trumpettes and shylls are pushing. Look at how they constantly try to claim that trump expanding the big government police state is a good thing, and attempt to make Ron Paul into trump (and vice versa). Look at how they spend almost 40 posts a day calling everyone who opposes trump a communist, all while telling everyone that we should make our country into north korea or east germany, complete with spying on everyone, a "papers, please" mentality, big government police state, abusing people in concentration camps, and a wall. Supporting Ron Paul's immigration policy and opposing trump's does not make someone for open borders, nor does it make them a leftist, communist, socialist, or any of the other names that the trumpettes and shylls like to throw around to the point where they become meaningless.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 09:13 AM
    I didn't say that, by any means. The border can be physically controlled without expanding the big government police state. Ron Paul campaigned on bringing our troops home from enforcing the borders of other countries, so that they could be put on our borders to enforce them. And he campaigned against the big government police state. Ron Paul is a perfect example of how our borders can be enforced without expansion of the big government police state.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 09:06 AM
    Ron Paul is not pro-immigration. Nor is he against it. He simply recognizes that the system is broken and needs to be reformed, that the current system does nothing but offer incentives to break the law, and costs the taxpayers money. "Border control" means whatever policies are in effect. It's meanlingless to talk about border control, without talking policy. Borders define a country, if you didn't have borders, you wouldn't have a country. However, enforcing borders does not, by definition, necessarily mean erecting a police state, the those two terms are completely separate from each other. It is the trumpettes and shylls that are trying to argue for expansion of the big government police state, under the guise of border control.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 08:03 AM
    Are we winning yet?
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-16-2019, 08:02 AM
    You keep quoting this line, as if you think it means Ron Paul would implement policies that he specifically campaigned against. No matter how much you want to repeat this, it doesn't make Ron Paul into trump, or vice versa. When you have government goons stopping people with no probable cause who are nowhere near the border, and demanding "papers, please" at gunpoint, that is literally one of the defining hallmarks of a "papers, please" police state. To think otherwise is what is warped. More direct opposition to Ron Paul. A drop in the bucket, a bit of nibbling around the edges. The overall amount of out tax dollars spent on welfare hasn't decreased by any significant percentage. Your Authoritarian Idol has even offered welfare to immigrants from certain countries.
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    08-15-2019, 08:22 AM
    Make no mistake, this will somehow be used to further expand the big government police state. Preventing voter fraud is certainly a good thing. But it will come as no surprise if this ends up being nothing more than another trojan horse for "real id" (biometrics). In addition, states currently make their own laws concerning voter verification, so this would also be further undermining of the 10th Amendment.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-15-2019, 08:17 AM
    This is such a great example of trump's multi-dimensional chess playing.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-15-2019, 08:16 AM
    And of course, we can't forget the rest of Ron Paul's positions that also apply: *No government spying *No "papers, please" mentality *No biometrics *No walling our country in *Let anyone come here and work, without the benefits of citizenship *End welfare entirely *No abuse of prisoners in US custody
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    08-14-2019, 11:09 AM
    Hopefully he was charged and convicted of manslaughter, and will be deported after serving his sentence. I also had a friend who got into a car accident with an illegal alien, luckily there wasn't a lot of damage and no one got hurt. This is exactly the argument that was used to oppose Ron Paul, when he spoke out extensively on abusing prisoners in US custody. If you claim that abusing people in US custody is a good thing, then where is yours?
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    08-14-2019, 10:37 AM
    If you are somehow attempting to claim that it is conservative to waste our tax dollars on abusing people in concentration camps, then that would be nothing less than direct opposition to Ron Paul.
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    08-14-2019, 08:36 AM
    I don't think you're correct in that. Ron Paul believes that anyone who wants to come here and work (which contributes to economic growth) should freely be able to do so, without giving them any of the benefits of actual citizenship. But that implies having at least enough documentation to be placed on the tax rolls (which requires a socialist security number and a green card), which is in effect, a "license" to work. I've never heard or read any statement from Ron Paul that he opposes people from other countries needing a green card to work here. And of course, that's a far cry from being subjected to the big government police state measures such as biometrics that trump is implementing.
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    08-14-2019, 08:22 AM
    Since the trumpettes and shylls don't seem to want to come in here at all and tell everyone how great it is for trump to raise the debt ceiling, it's almost like having one small corner of RPF that is still RPF. It might even be possible to post actual liberty content here in this thread, without being called a communist, or being subjected to 38+ posts a day of police state propaganda under the guise of immigration policy!
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-14-2019, 08:16 AM
    This thread got awfully quiet, awfully quickly. Perhaps the trumpettes and shylls are still celebrating trump having his pen and his phone, just like obomba.
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    08-14-2019, 08:14 AM
    What a ball of contradictory weasel words, lol. The first claim is inherently at odds with the weak attempt at refutation. That a refutation of any sort was even attempted is nothing short of yet more direct opposition to Ron Paul. If you supposedly oppose biometrics and trump's expansion of the big government police state, then you would denounce your Authoritarian Idol for it, tell everyone how wrong he is for it, and actually oppose him for it. Instead, you go on repeatedly telling everyone how wonderful trump's immigration policy is. Otherwise, your weak claim of opposition to biometrics and the police state is completely meaningless. Put up, or shut up. Next we have the ludicrous claim that a concentration camp is not a concentration camp, and that the people being held and abused in them can just leave anytime. What do you call them, then? Jails? "Detention centers"? No matter what euphemism you want to attempt to whitewash what they really are, any description of the conditions in these places, and the abuse of those being held, shows them to be far worse than any jail, there is absolutely no question that they are nothing less than concentration camps. Your claim that those being held there can just leave anytime is laughable, these places would be empty if that were true, and those locked doors, gates, and barbed wire fences must just be there for decoration. By definition, a concentration camp, jail, or "detention center" is designed to keep people from leaving it. Instead of simply deporting illegal immigrants quickly; building, maintaining, and staffing these places, abusing and feeding those held there, is all being paid for by our tax dollars. You claim to oppose the police state, yet rather than voice one word of opposition to trump doing this, you attempt to claim that a concentration camp is not a concentration camp and that those being held there can leave anytime they want. You voice no opposition whatsoever to the "papers, please" mentality or spying on people under the guise of trump's immigration policy. You voice no actual opposition to walling our country in, instead you actually condone it, in direct opposition to Ron Paul. Your attempted propaganda argument that trump's immigration policy = Ron Paul's immigration policy falls completely flat.
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  • invisible's Avatar
    08-13-2019, 08:22 AM
    I don't expect government to fix anything, only to make existing problems worse. Worse still, is an authoritarian President ruling by EO.
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    08-13-2019, 08:16 AM
    I wouldn't disagree with changing the legal definitions of platform and publisher, if properly done through Congress, and makes it harder for both big tech AND government to censor internet content. But this is more trump=obomba ruling by EO authoritarianism.
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    08-13-2019, 08:09 AM
    Anyone who genuinely supports Ron Paul and his immigration policy would denounce trump for his spying on people, biometrics, "papers, please" mentality, abusing people in concentration caps, and wall. Otherwise, it's just more shylling for the big government police state.
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    08-13-2019, 07:59 AM
    Hey, he's got his pen and his phone! This is the guy who is supposed to be "cutting regulations", yet here are the trumpettes and shylls cheering for more regulations via EO. Nah, there couldn't be a hidden agenda behind this, never. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/08/11/leaked-draft-trump-executive-order-censor-internet-denounced-dangerous
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