Aratus
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First of all, Donald Trump is nowhere near the same type of man as Samson. I'm not going to lay out my theological arguments as to why that's the case, here, because I want to get to a more important point. Last of all, your post didn't answer my question at all. I asked for Scriptural basis to support the idea that it's righteous (or moral) to vote for the lesser of two evils (or least of possible goods). You're a man of God, and I know you know the Scriptures, Swordsmyth. So please explain to me where in God's holy, inspired word He teaches that it's okay to have a voting ethic of choosing the lesser of two evils. I'm not looking for Biblical comparisons of Donald Trump to judges, prophets, nor apostles, which even to do so is insulting to those great men of the Faith, anyway.

In light of the quote in your signature from Alexis de Tocqueville, "You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith," can you explain to me where in the Scriptures is the method of "voting for the lesser of two evils (or least of possible goods)" supported as a righteous thing to do? :confused:

Trump just granted clemency to one of the most crooked politicians in the history of Illinois, and you have the audacity to actually type with the same fingers that you fold in prayers to our God that Trump is a "possible good"? Can you not see how inconsistent you are, Swordsmyth? For all the death, theft, and debt that our country has been involved in, yes, I'll demand "perfection" instead of "lesser evils" or "least of possible good." There's too much at stake to be compromising our values and standards at this point. Just look at the type of people who continue to occupy the Oval Office, and observe what our chambers of Congress have become. Our children ought to be ashamed of us for the world we're leaving to them.

The ballot box is not the only container we need to advance in the right direction. (By the way, you need to make sure you have the right definition of what is "the right direction" before you start moving, but that's another topic.). Besides voting, we also need the soap box, the prayer box, the coin box, and the ammo box. Those are the alternatives we have to work with when there are no candidates worthy of supporting. Yes, we need to make sacrifices, alliances, etc., and who says that libertarians haven't done that? But choosing not to "vote for the lesser of two evils" has nothing to do with being brainwashed by establishment elites and Socialists. On the contrary, it's those of you who continue to "vote for the lesser of two evils" that have fallen in step with the establishment elites and Socialists because they know they can promote whomever they want, and just as long as that candidate says a percentage of the things which tickle the ears of certain voting blocs, those elites/Socialists know they can remain in power, at the expense of your "ballot box tithe." That's what you call "voter suppression." So don't blame libertarians or "purists" for the political shifts every election cycle; that's on those of you who vote in fear and not in principle.

Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is why our country never makes any progress. Generation after generation, people compromise on the axioms and principles which uphold a free republic, all for the sake of "doing something." The fact that you believe Trump is "moving things in the right direction" illustrates the delusion which is characteristic of those who continue to "vote for the lesser of two evils" instead of voting for what's objectively good. Under Trump, we still have slaughter of the unborn, inflation of our money supply, continue occupation of foreign lands, violations of the Constitution by the executive branch, incremental sieges of the right to own whatever we want to defend ourselves, and the list goes on. You're so busy looking at treatments of symptoms that you've completely ignored root causes, and because of that, people like you will never make any progress. So I'm not "holier than thou"; I'm just digging deeper than you are to undermine ideas that keep us in debt, in confusion and turmoil, and most of all, keep us with blood on our hands.

Nobody is stopping you from pushing forward with "the message"; but don't confuse your message with being of the same essence as Dr. Ron Paul's because it's not. That's the problem. Those of you who support Trump are not in the same camp as those of us who have fought, taught, and advocated for the principles of a true, Constitutional republic that emphasizes things like the preservation of God-given rights, advancement of sound money and a true free-market system that doesn't have central banking at its core, a sensible and diplomatic foreign policy where we aren't policing the world and bribing foreign nations in order to steal their national resources, etc. So if you want to support the "Orange Man," then go ahead. But don't ever define your efforts as being the same as forwarding the causes which Dr. Ron Paul stood for during his campaigns. Start your own forums, gather your own grassroots, and preach the "Gospel of MAGA" to all who will hear it, but you seriously need to leave this place and stop trying to evangelize those who have higher standards of liberty and freedom than you do.

So Trump will commute the sentence of a former corrupt governor who was found guilty of extortion, wire fraud, racketeering, and other charges, but he refuses to pardon a man who lost almost everything dear to him in his life for the cause of exposing lies and unconstitutional acts by our federal security organizations to spy on American citizens without due process of law, calling him a "total traitor." Anyone who continues to praise Trump after this latest clemency loses all credibility when it comes to standing for the principles of life, liberty, property, or any other principle that guarantees a free and prosperous society. And if you call yourself a Christian, especially, then shame on you. You are not advancing Biblical principles of self-government nor civic government by supporting someone like Trump, and you need to seriously repent.

I'm not trying to change your mind because you've already swallowed the "Blue Pill." So, for you, ignorance is bliss.

You're missing the point, Swordsmyth. The fact that Trump is on the wrong side of the Snowden controversy indicates that he's not serious about government transparency, to begin with (except when it's expedient for himself, because he's an egotistical person). Trump is supposed to be encouraging more "Edward Snowdens," especially if he wants the "Swamp Things" to come clamoring out of the swamp, naked for who they truly are. And I think it's laughable that you believe Trump has exposed "the swamp." Just look at whom he surrounds himself with in his administration (especially in terms of national security and foreign policy), and you'll see that they fit quite nicely in "the swamp."

You can't call someone like Edward Snowden "a total traitor," but then turn around and claim you're going to "drain the swamp." The two sentiments are simply contradictory.

The general public already knew about collusions amongst the FBI, CIA, and State Department before there was a conspiracy against Donald Trump and his associates, and that knowledge was escalated through Edward Snowden's whistleblowing. Trump hasn't woken anyone up to that, and he should've been exposing our intelligence community from the beginning, not when it was politically expedient for himself. Nonetheless, Trump thinks Snowden ought to be dealt with harshly, as recorded in the video above. And for what?

What examples or cases of Trump's exposure of the "Deep State" are you referring to? I need citations, not just empty rhetoric from you that "He's doing it," nor any assurances from him (or his staff) that he's going to do it. And by "exposure," I mean documented evidences that show programs, initiatives, and other means that our privacy has been intruded by our intelligence community, in the same manner that Edward Snowden did when he came out with his information about the NSA, CIA, etc.

What policies or legislation has Trump encouraged Congress to pass regarding safeguards of our privacy from intrusions by any level of federal bureaucracy, which would reveal Trump's commitment to maintain government transparency, similar to what Edward Snowden exposed?

No, he's not. You can stop with the "Trump is playing 3D Chess" bullshit.

Whoa!

A historical truth.

If not, maybe next Feb 29. :questionsmerk:

Besides his second sentence, "Climate change is the biggest threat to our planet," I don't see anything wrong with Bezos' initiative. Environmental concerns ought to be solved from private individuals and groups, first. That's what keeps nation-states from having to get involved with them through overregulation/taxation and political appeals to fear which cause dependency from constituents.

Then the solution is to get rid of the subsidies. YouTube has no right to public funds, and therefore, they have no right to be considered a "public square." If YouTube is censoring certain channels or individuals, then it has every right to do so, even if they're channels and individuals that we may like. The problem isn't that since they're receiving money that they shouldn't be allowed to censor anyone in the public domain; rather, the problem is they're receiving public revenues as a private entity. The sneaky culprit in this whole debacle is corporate welfare, not censorship to speech.

As an example: What Dr. Ron Paul said about Edward Snowden: What Donald Trump said about Edward Snowden:

Abortion is murder; it's the intentional killing of a human being (no matter its stage of development). Therefore, the unborn child is not its mother's body. So when any legislative body passes a law to ban abortion, it's doing what it's supposed to do because it's creating a law that protects the right and sanctity of life by penalizing any who would violate that God-given right.

Ah. Thanks!

How do I post Tweets in a reply?

Spending cuts mean nothing if Trump isn't addressing the inflation problem from the Federal Reserve. After all, Trump has been advocating for lower interest rates, which is devastating to the value of the U.S. Dollar: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1222186473849544704?s=20

Meh.

This comes to mind for some reason...

Wild Wild West, yah... RIP