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    08-05-2022, 11:20 PM
    Thanks for sharing, Suzu. I'm very sorry to hear of the loss. I have moved this thread to our Remembrance area.
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    08-01-2022, 10:21 AM
    Trump can't even admit that he was wrong to have Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx as part of his COVID response team, not to mention that he was seriously in error for rushing vaccines through his treacherous "Operation Warp Speed."
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    08-01-2022, 09:55 AM
    The problem is people like Howard Dean are playing to the ignorance of their voting base because abortions haven't been banned in the states where Democrats are in control. In fact, in my current state, we're receiving the abortion clinics which have been expelled from nearby conservative states, so abortions will be more available in my state within the coming year, which is an absolute atrocity. The fact that so many rank-and-file Democrats are ignorant of the actual effects of the Roe v. Wade overturn and are willing to be manipulated into thinking it's a "women's rights" issue is despicable.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-29-2022, 07:37 AM
    You said "LMAO Yea I can see it now as you two post sexually explicit TikToks." together. You seem to be okay with it. That's sick.I can just imagine the sick double dating now." So you threw out an accusation based on nothing and then pulled it back. Okay. Let's be clear. I don't even have a TikTok account. And I no more approve of anybody posting anything on TikTok than you approve of a man giving a woman he knows has been drinking a ride home....to his house and then having sex with her. Or...maybe you do approve of that. Maybe you've done that. I don't know. You seem to be adamant that laws which punish said behavior when it turns out the drunk woman was actually under age are "tyrannical" and "akin to Jim Crow" even though (I think) you are against such behavior? Or maybe you support such behavior? I mean, if you REALLY think that my insistence that these "sexually explicit TikTok videos" (which haven't even been defined) are a reason for the law to terminate parental rights means somehow that I'm all for posting sexually explicit TikTok videos, then by your own TWISTED logic, you support having sex with drunk women you don't know that are much, much older than you. Here's something about drunk people. Even when the "consent", sometimes they don't have a freaking clue about what they are doing. I've never been drunk. But I've been around a lot of drunk people as an Uber/Lyft driver. I once got a phone number from a really hot lady who liked how nice and polite I was. I sent her a text the next day. She didn't respond. I know why. She probably didn't even remember giving me her number. Drunk sex is dangerous. You might catch HIV. You might get a woman you don't particularly like pregnant. You might find yourself afoul of statutory rape laws. It's like drunk driving. You didn't mean to hit that pedestrian but... No it's not. It's about a politically connected father who manipulated the system. See: https://www.foxnews.com/us/woman-forced-give-up-daughter-rapist-pay-child-support "He's well-connected," Abelseth said. "He's threatened me multiple times, saying he has connections in the justice system, so I better be careful, and he can take her away anytime he wants to. I didn't believe him until it happened."
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-29-2022, 06:39 AM
    In other words, you know you're full of crap. Here's the cliff notes version since reading is not your strong point. There is NO honest correlation between Jim Crow and statutory rape laws. Jim Crow punishes MORAL behavior. That's why they were open to attack through civil disobedience. Good MORAL people could, in good conscience, violate Jim Crow laws by drinking at white only water fountains and refusing to give up their seats on a bus. Statutory rape laws punish inherently IMMORAL behavior. Having a one night stand with a woman that clearly is much younger than you, has been drinking and you really know nothing about except she's hot is IMMORAL behavior. Yes we've all done IMMORAL things. And those IMMORAL things have consequences. The consequences of this IMMORAL behavior for this man is that he had a baby by a woman who's lifestyle he doesn't like, and based on the laws of his state he could become a convicted rapist. If you don't understand the difference between laws that may be unfair but punish IMMORAL behavior and laws that punish MORAL behavior then you are sorely lacking in the ethics department.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-29-2022, 12:04 AM
    What were the two sexually explicit TikToks I posted? I don't even know how to post TikToks on here. :confused: What were these sexually explicit TikToks that you said I posted, which I don't even know how to post, talking about? I know AF posted something from TikTok that was shown on news stations that I found disturbing but not pornographic. She didn't force any of the men she slept with to sleep with her. You didn't accuse her of rape. You accused her of being "slutty." You can't accuse of her of being "slutty" and then turn around and give the dad a pass on something that was both slutty and illegal. You don't want government tyranny unless it's being used against women. Take away the mom's parental rights for being "slutty" while giving the dad a 100% pass for being a whore himself. If the dad hadn't been a whore along with the mom then they wouldn't even have a child together and be in this mess. But he did. And in doing so he broke the law. And then he tried to bring the law down on the head of the mom. For a while the judge agreed, then after the judge got public pressure he reversed himself. Now the dad's being investigated for rape and based on all of the public pressure, because public pressure drives some prosecutions (ask Bill Cosby), him could very well get convicted. No clear winners hear. Stupid move on dad's part. He should have kept it in his pants and failing to do that lived with the fact that he ended up with a slut for his child's mother.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:56 PM
    Jim Crow was inherently immoral. Telling someone he shouldn't have sex with a drunk woman in a bathroom if he hasn't gotten to know the woman enough to know whether or not she's over 18 isn't inherently immoral. Even with a fake ID, if he had taken the time to know the object of his sexual desire before banging her he could have found out she was under 18. He chose to pleasure himself at the moment. I disagree with the law, but I don't find it inherently immoral. Likewise I disagree with 3 strikes laws but I don't find them inherently immoral. Someone who has two strikes and then chooses to commit another crime is taking a stupid risk. Britney Griner, the WNBA star that went to Russia with her medical marijuana oil and got busted right before the war started, took a stupid risk. I disagree with Russia's law, but it's not inherently immoral the way Jim Crow was. There is a saying. If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones. If in your younger years you were being a male whore (having bathroom sex with someone you just met) and it turns out your whoring was actually illegal, you probably shouldn't throw stones at your now adult baby's mama letting men sleep over (legal), being married multiple times (legal), letting your 14 y/o daughter make out (not have sex) with her 17 y/o boyfriend (legal), letting your 14 y/o daughter post non-pornographic, but sexually suggestive, videos on TikTok (legal), and "sexting" said 17 y/o boyfriend (unless she was sending nudes which the article does not say, that's still legal). As Ender pointed out, all of this could be better handled without involving the courts. First, if you don't want to have to share custody with a woman that makes whorish decisions, then do the traditional thing and save sex for *gasp* marriage. If the sweet virgin church girl you had a baby with leaves you and starts acting whorish (and I know of a case where that happened) then you have a right to complain. Otherwise you got what you should have been expecting. Then if you get divorced, try to work out as much as you can in the parenting plan. One more thing about Jim Crow. Rosa Parks was not the first black woman to refuse to give up her seat on the bus. But the other black woman (women?) before her had record(s). I you plan to get into a tangle with the legal system expect your past to come up. If your past coming up can put you in legal jeopardy, maybe you shouldn't fight that battle.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:34 PM
    But you think it's okay for a 30 year old to have sex with a drunk 16 year old? You don't think that's whorish on the part of the dad? You're sick. Edit: And I didn't ask you to take my advice. I gave you facts about so called "lack of medical evidence" in rape cases.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:32 PM
    I'd be a better dad than you would be. You would excuse her rapist and then turn around and demand she give him full custody over their child for legal behavior you deemed slutty.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:30 PM
    Relevant to this entire discussion: https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/louisiana-statutory-rape-laws.htm Mistake as to the Child's Age In Louisiana, as in most states, it is not a defense to a charge of carnal knowledge of a juvenile, aggravated rape, indecent behavior with a juvenile, or sexual battery that the defendant did not know that the child was underage. This is so even if the child lied about his or her age or looked older. (La. Rev. Stat. Ann. §§ 14:42, 14:43.1, 14:80, 14:80.1 14:81 (2018).) I'm not saying that's what the law should be. I'm saying that's what it is.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:15 PM
    You should read this before attempting to respond because you don't know what you are talking about. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1881730/
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:14 PM
    Work on your reading. Those were the allegations that the dad was sexually abusing the daughter. That has NOTHING to do with what happened to the mom. The medical evidence is indisputable that the mom was 16 at the time, rape under Louisiana law, and that she had been drinking. What's in dispute is whether or not she was passed out when he had sex with her. Now he's freaking out because his daughter is making out with a 17 year old, which is totally legal, and post non pornographic videos on TikTok. (By definition TikTok doesn't allow porn. Not everything that is sexually suggestive is porn). Also lack of medical evidence doesn't prove the mom lied. Sometimes there is no medical evidence of molestation even though it happens. Please read this paper before you respond again so you can have some clue as to what you are talking about. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1881730/
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 11:02 PM
    The person making the mountain over the molehill is the dad. He's the one that went for full custody because his teenage daughter was making out with a teenage boy when he had sex with her drunk teenage mother when he was a grown ass man.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 10:48 PM
    At the end of Animal Farm the pigs (communists) and human farmers (fascists) looked exactly the same.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 10:46 PM
    Wow! What a good read. And yeah, all the nails get hit on the head. Here is where I take solace. Revelation 7:1-4 7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” The slim glimmer of hope I have is that "Orange man" and "Hair plug man" get taken down at the same time (GOP gets the house and really pushes the Biden laptop angle) and "cackle woman" remains unpopular and Rand finally hits his presidential stride. Yeah....long shot I know. More likely Jesus will come in my lifetime.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 10:24 PM
    This mother almost lost her kid over TikTok videos an unrestricted cell phone, and her 14 year old daughter kissing a 17 year old. That's just stupid on the judges part. Parse it however you want. The judge's reason, and the dad's reason, was a stupid reason and the dad was being hypocritical. Pretty much everyone but you agrees with that at this point.
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    07-28-2022, 10:21 PM
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.
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    07-28-2022, 03:32 PM
    LOL. Okay. If we're going with legal formalities my response to your objection would be "Witness opened the door to questioning about 12 year olds and sex by bringing up a 12 year old wanting to have sex with him and later dating some dude in the Air Force. And there is no relevance to whether most 12 year olds can operate TikTok as the teen in question is in this case 14 and obviously can operate TikTok." Edit: Okay. I see that I specifically asked about 12 year olds and TikTok. I would ask this Court to take judicial notice of the fact that there are a LOT of 12 year olds on TikTok and it doesn't matter whether most 12 year olds use TikTok or not as it's clearly in the capability of less than genius level 12 year olds. :D
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 02:54 PM
    So your argument is that a 12 year old can consent to sex but not to TikTok? And you don't see an inconsistency to your position? Ummm....okay. And....you're working about TikTok. Okay.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 02:50 PM
    At least a few people actually get it! Dad brings gubmint into his family business because his underage daughter is acting in a more tame way then the woman he had drunk sex with when she was 16 and he was an adult. Now, whether people here think this should be the law or not, dad may very well end up a convicted felon. Stupid move on dad's part. No mater what you think of dad or mom. Dad almost got away with it because judge decided not to actually follow "the law." Now civil judge has reserved himself and state prosecutors are looking at dad. That's the legal reality. And yes, I've seen women make stupid moves like this too. Like the mom who threatened to take her ex to court because she disagreed with the exes plan to get their son caught up in math over the summer during his time. Oh, and he was the math genius and she was unable to help the kids with math post the 5th grade. Now that son is struggling in college and she calls the dad to see if he can tutor their son, which he does without telling her "I told you so" because he loves his son. Access to the courts sometimes makes people stupid.
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    07-28-2022, 01:46 PM
    TikTok ain't porn. And you were just saying that 12 year olds can consent to sex and talking about giving guns to minors as well. Mind = blown. How about this. If you want to be this great responsible conservative father, don't go around having sex in the bathroom with random strangers? Just a thought.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    07-28-2022, 01:41 PM
    Like you JUST quoted me saying: That sleezy mother let her 14 year old daughter kiss a 17 year old boy and post videos of herself twerking on TikTok. Take away that mom's parental rights!" Not porn. TikTok. Not sex with a grown man. Making out with another teenager and contacting said teenager through a cell phone. No sane person would say that justifies taking away parental rights.
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    07-28-2022, 01:38 PM
    In the business world, if a 12 year old claims to be 18, buys a house, once it's found out that the 12 year old isn't really 18 the business doesn't have a valid contract. You may think the law should work that way, but it does. In some cases one party has a greater responsibility to investigate the claims of the other party. Here's the key. We don't expect a child to understand the full ramifications of his/her actions just because he or she has the capability to actually do the actions. A toddler is strong enough to pull the trigger on a gun. Doesn't mean he understands what's going on. And even if he understands a little bit, it doesn't mean he fully understands. Recent case I saw where the cops were arresting a dad and his son shot at the cops. I don't remember the age. 4? 6? When they got the gun away from the kid and asked him why, his reply was "I shot at the cops so they would stop arresting him and he would be free to do what he wanted." Ummm...okay. The kid "understood" enough to formulate the idea of pointing a gun at someone doing something he didn't like and pull the trigger. So....lock him up for life for attempted murder? Or in a non statist world just do whatever it is you would to to an adult that did the same thing? Bottom line, the ability to do something is not the same as the ability to be truly responsible for doing it. That said, the important thing for ANY set of rules of behavior, whether it's state mandated or voluntary, is that the rules MUST be consistent. If you think an underage girl who makes a fake ID has shown the maturity to be able to make that decision and be responsible for it, then can't she also be responsible for her TikTok videos? And yeah, dad might not like it. But there are two parents in the situation. Dad hasn't accused mom of letting daughter upload pornhub or even having sex. I agree that child labor laws are bogus. At age 12 I was driving a tractor. I'm PRETTY SURE kids can still work or farms. Paper routes are a thing of the past. (I worked a paper route with my 16 y/o cousin driving when I was 6. My brother and I threw the papers out the window while she was driving and we helped fold them the night before.) And of course TikTok didn't exist back then. It does now. Some kids make money on TikTok and YouTube and it's not always for shaking their butts.
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    07-28-2022, 12:11 PM
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again. My original point, which I think MOST people agree with, is that you're not guaranteed justice from the gubmint. And yes, it's a clusterf***. We've gone from "Even 12 year old girls can make adult decisions if they look old enough and make a fake ID" to "OMG! That sleezy mother let her 14 year old daughter kiss a 17 year old boy and post videos of herself twerking on TikTok. Take away that mom's parental rights!" :rolleyes:
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    07-28-2022, 12:07 PM
    The birth mom is making a decision that most people in this thread have been excusing up until today. Either 14 year olds can make adult decisions or they can't. And TikTok videos aren't pornographic.
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    07-28-2022, 12:05 PM
    A) I never said it was force so quit with the straw man argument. B) The proof that it was statutory rape is indisputible. C) Dad's being a hypocrite.
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    07-28-2022, 12:04 PM
    Okay. I certainly see the mom as having made some mistakes. Not sure I'd call them hypocrisy. For me the word "hypocrisy" has a particular meaning. "Don't you dare do what I do or what I did and still justify myself doing." Assuming the worst from the mom....did she try to get full custody? Nope. Did she freak out that her underage daughter was acting as she probably did at that age? Nope. Dad on the other hand "OMG! My 14 year old girl is kissing and getting felt up by some 17 year old and posting pictures of herself twerking on TikTok! The world is coming to an end!" And yes, I've seen a case where the roles were reversed. Teenage boy was living with his dad. Mom sued to get custody. Dad had been going pro se and missed a filing deadline. I was brought in at the last minute. I talked to the other lawyer (female) about the case before the hearing. She was like "Do you know what's going on in that house? The son posted a video on Facebook holding a bong and saying that he was high a fvck." I went back to talk to the father and son about that. (Nothing worse than clients that don't tell you everything before trial). The boy dropped his head and admitted he'd done that. But then he was like "But I'm scared to live with my mom and her new husband. He put a gun up to the head of one of the other children and pulled the trigger. The gun was empty but the other kid didn't know it." I went back to the lady lawyer and asked her if she knew that. Her face dropped in embarrassment. She said "Yes I did read the CPS file and that was disturbing. Let me talk to the son." Father and son agreed. She told the son "Here's my card. If anything happens you just call me right away." Like she was going to do anything other than call 911. :rolleyes: Anyway, the judge wasn't hearing none of any of it. The filing deadline had been missed and that was that. Years later I ran in to the father and son. He eventually got custody again and everything worked out.
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    07-28-2022, 11:29 AM
    TikTok isn't pornhub dude. You can't post anything that would actually be child porn on TikTok. So, once again, a sleazy dad (having sex with a drunk woman that may or may not have been passed out) was freaking out over nothing.
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    07-28-2022, 11:26 AM
    The evidence presented is that the dad under the law is a rapist. The judge corrected himself after public pressure. And you are the only one proven wrong here. Even your own facts prove you wrong. But that doesn't stop you from making senseless arguments. You pointed out that the age of consent is 17. The mom at the time she got pregnant was under 17. The father, under the law, is a rapist. The father, and you apparently, have a problem with adults having sex with people under age. Only this dad flipped out not over sex, but "making out" and between two teenagers. And based on that, this rapist, under the law, sought full custody because he didn't want his daughter to have a cell phone capable of contacting her 17 year old boyfriend. The dad probably remembered what he was like at 17.
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    07-28-2022, 11:21 AM
    I don't think a 14 year old and a 17 year old making out (no accusation they were actually having sex) is a reason for the mom to lose full custody. But facts aren't important to you apparently. The judge reversed his ruling. He admitted his mistake. You could do the same. Or not.
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