nobody's_hero
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When Vance actually starts fact-checking the moderators with how the 'asylum' status actually works, they get all pissy and cut to another topic. That's when I quit watching. 1841310856820236500 If it had been me on that stage, I'd have walked off and let them figure out what to do with the next hour or so of dead-air. CBS is a damned joke. Didn't even give the candidates a chance to introduce themselves before they pop a hypothetical about Israel launching a pre-emptive strike and seeing how candidates would respond. Gotta hurry up and get the most important question out of the way, I guess.

These are the same people who keep poking the nuclear bear, so . . .

Maybe he just wants them to think he took the bait. I mean, they already tried to kill him twice. I'd be playing along too if I thought it would get them to chill out for a while.

CNN's got some talented hackers. (I mean, I'm assuming emails used for registration would be kept private unless someone did some digital digging)

I mean, I do that even when Trump isn't getting shot at.

Haitians would use machetes. (not kidding we had this happen where I live, small town ER actually. kid (like 22-23) brought into the ER with a chunk of his pectoral muscle hanging off, we were doing CPR and the blood was just pumping out of his chest. Cops who followed from the scene said it was a trademark tool of Haitian gangs, the machete) (if anyone any anti-gunner tells you they'd rather deal with blades than bullets, tell them they're an idiot)

We have a few districts here in Georgia (namely US-2, Southwest GA, Sanford Bishop's district) where democrats always manage to win by the miracle of mail-in ballots, and it's always late at night when you go to bed looking like you're winning. I say there's a very easy way to drastically reduce the odds of it happening. Every precinct should hold their results and report simultaneously when the last district to finish counting is ready to report. It should not be hard to do with modern technology. Everyone says they're ready, everyone shows their cards at the same time, no one gets a chance to say 'oh wait I found another card here in my coat-pocket.'

My only question is: Lucky or Blessed? Not trying to tempt fate with the question. Actually, second question: Are they going to "Lower the temperature" this time or are they in the final stretch and anything goes?

Maybe he thinks it's possible that he could use the prospect of lifting sanctions to give him leverage in talks with Putin. But, these sanctions aren't hurting Russia. That country has become more self-reliant amidst these sanctions. Whatever they can't produce themselves, they're getting from China. Hell, maybe we should put sanctions on ourselves. Our economy could use a boost.

I think Trump was useful in breaking the hold the MSM has over Americans (still far too many take it as the gospel). I haven't had any reason to watch Fox since Tucker left. (not that I watched much of it anyway, I haven't had cable TV since like 2014, but Tucker Tonight was usually worth watch online wherever someone posted it). I know lots of republicans who feel the same way. The fact is, you can't get anyone to believe something else until they willfully stop believing in what they do. They have to stop believing in the MSM. There are many, many more people skeptical of what gets sent out over the airwaves today, than there were in 2008. I'd say it's a waste to believe in Trump, but for a lot of folks (like myself) this is bigger than Trump (he would disagree with me, but whatever), and I see the potential here. The only question is whether we will (or even can) take advantage of it. Or, maybe we'll just overdose on black-pills, as media script-readers creep their way back towards regaining credibility. But as I said, it's a very fragile thing. One false-flag and they're back in business.

Yes, that's another aspect of being pro-life. Trump believed all the lies that the vaccines were safety-tested, that they were 100% effective against COVID-19, and, most egregiously, that he was responsible for the success of getting the vaccines out through "Operation Warp Speed." He gambled with the lives of desperate Americans, and like you've said, to this day, he prides himself in getting the vaccines pushed through.

Yes, I know that Trump has done way more public engagement than Kamala. My point is Trump was outsmarted by a really stupid candidate because he allowed his own ego to get the best of him and fell into her traps. And it's his ego which will be his undoing, just as his ego kept him from being judged by Republican Primary voters in his refusal to participate in those debates.

It's a single issue which is connected to a network of other positions. That single issue is pro-life. To be pro-life means that you care for the preservation of innocent life both inside and outside of the womb, and that incorporates the prohibition of conflicts and wars which will lead to the unnecessary, if not, unethical, termination of civilians who have nothing to do with posing a national threat. It has been shown countless times that the nation-state of Israel is using certain events to justify a campaign of genocide towards an ethnic/national group of people who are not terrorists. As a Christian, I'm against any candidate who will support another nation killing my people (that is, Palestinian Christians) for political and religious reasons. Trump's unadulterated support of Israel offsets his commitment to end the conflict over in Ukraine and Russia, even if he claims, "I just want the dying to stop." He wants to stop the killing of Ukrainian and Russian lives, but he's okay with Palestinians (and even Israelis) being killed because "Israel needs to be feared by her enemies again." Therefore, as a "sInGlE-iSsUe VoTeR," I feel justified in not supporting Trump at all, and I'm sick and tired of people like you trying to justify "voting for the lesser of two evils."

I can't disagree with the bolded. Disagree with the italicized. —especially with the neocons in what seems to be a full rout back to the democrats. They can have all the Cheneys, Kristols, McCains and Romneys (or even Rockefellers) they want. I don't think the GOP has ever been more primed for a better candidate to come along (I also realize just how fragile this foothold is). I wish we'd had this level of anti-establishment sentiment when Dr. Paul was running in 2008 and 2012 (or even 1988). BTW, Did you catch where Ron was surprised how good of a liar Kamala is?

Call it "poetic justice." Trump dodged all of the Republican Primary debates, because he was so proud that he had a commanding lead with Republican voters (in the polls and in the eyes of the mainstream media), and he felt that Republican voters didn't need to hear his positions challenged and scrutinized with the other candidates. Now he lost what is probably his last debate to a candidate who, like him, dodged the public, flying high on the polls and favor of the mainstream media and would-be voters. Trump is an arrogant person whose ego got the best of him against a woman who memorized her script and played him by leading him into all the traps that Trump's persona couldn't help.

I'm against Zionism, not Israel because, theologically speaking, the Church is Israel (those who are covenantally united to Christ by faith and through baptism). So I am pro-Israel, in the Biblical sense of the word, not in the nation-state sense of a country which is Atheistic in its entire ethics, civics, etc.

Yeah but arguing with Sonny would be like turning on MSNBC and yelling at my TV set. If I'm gonna argue against his talking points, I might as well go straight to the source.

Fun fact: Harris has been in politics longer than Trump has.

@1:36 I would like to see him expand that reasoning to various other issues, of course. But on this particular one he pretty much nailed it. Pretty sure he feels that way about cannabis, as well.

I tend to judge the veracity of these rumors by how hard the liberal media retaliates to dispel them. Given the media blitz yesterday over Haitians eating pets, it seems to be true.

If you're voting for Trump, then don't complain about the conflicts in the Middle East and Israel's campaign to wipe out an entire demographic due to their ethnicity. Trump is a staunch supporter of aiding Israel in all of her military campaigns.

Frankly I think Trump's narcissism is a boon sometimes. It's gonna take someone who is a bit full of themselves to stand up to the deep state. It may not be Trump. It certainly isn't Kamala. Let's pretend for example, that the alphabet agencies go around the world provoking undeclared wars to erupt. (They don't do that, of course, we're just pretending.) Let's pretend that Trump doesn't want a war, and he has the audacity to think he actually has any say in the matter. (All these top generals who Kamala likes to remind everyone of, who turned on Trump, for example, would prefer it if he just stepped back and let them conduct their wars, unimpeded). He sees them as an affront to his authority. His ego, gets in the way. Trump wants to be seen as a 'deal maker'. He gets off on it. That's his whole thing. He might not even really care about the lives of Ukrainians or Russians being lost. He just wants to make 'good deals. Great deals! The greatest deal evuh.' (my Trump imitation needs work). It's all about him. 'It was me. ME ME ME ME ME. I made those great deals.' And you know what? I don't really care. I just think we should stop funding the war in Ukraine, and Trump, is such a damned narcissist, he might actually make that happen. If someone tells him he can't do something (YoU cAn'T juSt NegOTiatE wiTh PuTIn!), it seems to motivate him to want to do it more. And he will, of course, be doing it, just so it'll be his name in the big lights. The whole world's eyes on Trump as he negotiates a historic peace agreement between the West and Russia.

I feel like tomorrow is gonna be full of fact-checking. Starting with people eating pets in Springfield.

"The late, Great John McCain." - Kamala YESSS!! LAWD, Dump ALL THOSE NEOCONS back over on the left. Embrace 'em Kamala. Let's redraw these lines. Les GOOoo! Cheneys, Romneys, McCains, Goldman Sachs. les' f'king go! GTFO my party.

I noticed they cut Trump off earlier when he started asking where Biden was. Who's running the country? -eh um we have to stop you right there. we have a lot to get into tonight.

I've never heard Kamala's 'about to cry with emotion' accent but she almost pulls it off.

Harris uses ultra-neocon talking points to sell what they're doing in Ukraine.

Did you catch when she used Goldman Sach's disapproval of Trump's economic plan to make her point? I mean, literally saying the quiet part out loud there.

Something seems to be scaring all the neocons back to the left (from whence they came). https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-09-08/more-republicans-are-leaving-trump-to-vote-for-kamala-harris I mean, that's worth a vote, to me. The sooner we can boot these neocons back to the left, the sooner the GOP could be viable as an opposition party. (and if that doesn't work, well, we haven't really lost anything we weren't going to lose anyway, now have we?)