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All you claim may in fact prove out, but only time will tell. So my question to you then is what would you see done? And here I ask not for pie in the sky things that were never going to happen, but actual things that one could do in the real world. Take up arms and start shooting? Say "fuck it, get me a beer woman" and sit and do nothing as you wait either for someone else to make things all better? The sorts of change we need in the context of an environment of unbridled tyranny cannot be had along "normal" avenues. So what, then, do we DO?

And what does all this reveal? We are at war, literally. We are, and have been, in a civil war for decades. It is not a hot war. It is our own domestic roll of cold warfare, yet so few have been able to see it. It has only been since 9/11 that this truth has been coming progressively more apparent. Why Theye have chosen to reveal themselves, who can say? Seems a gross miscalculation to me. Perhaps Theye thought we'd been so thoroughly marinated in fear that we would do their bidding no matter what it might be? Or are Theye not really on the ropes as it now appears? We must bear in mind that while Theye do not likely have their hands directly on the silo captains' hands, they most likely have them on the hands of those who work in places like the Wuhan bioweapons facility. I would not be too fast to cheer Trump's reascension... not just yet. Time will tell. Foists of apocalyptic "if we can't have it, nobody can" plagues upon the world aside, we nonetheless are far from recovered from the ravages of the globalist cabal. The comments of that rageshrieking Democrat dreg the other day about being at war is actually true, only not in the sense she meant it. If you look at the major political movements of the past 100+ years through the lens of Quiet Wars†, everything begins to come into sensible focus. This is why though very wary of Trump's current wave of measures, I nonetheless welcome them in any event because up until now we've been doing the same political things over and over, decade over decade expecting different results. Given the direction in which things have been going, especially these past four years, we no longer have that much to lose, except our cheap and petty comforts and conveniences, given how whittled down as our rights and freedoms have become. I say throw the dice, come what may. Let us have courage for once and act like men. Nothing is worse than sitting in that pot as the water grows ever warmer.

Oh no... a Democrat....

And that sort of outcome in a nation such as America manifest as a result of the failure of its people to be the government. When people pawn off their responsibility to be part of the governance of the nation, choosing to trust strangers with their freedoms, they effectively take to their knees in supplication to evil men to rape their rights in every orifice. We are the reason everything is shitty. We failed ourselves, our fellows, our children, and so on by not being the smartest, morally soundest, and most involved we can be for the sakes of all Americans. To defend your rights is to defend my own.

Mr. Rock, meet Mr. Hardplace. The problems here are manifold, but the essence of the root problem is that the nature of all American "government" has degenerated to such a degree that we can no longer rely on the so-called "system" to correct itself via the instrumentalities intended for such purposes. This has arisen largely due to the fact that the American people are not united in the fundamentals of what it is to be American. The schism between "left" and "right, "conservative" and "progressive" is so deeply radical, we see these yawning chasms between what Republican and Democrat agents of "government" want and do in terms of policy and the passage of legislation. Herein we see a very profound flaw in the architecture of "government" in America. Furthermore, the mission of the federal government has experienced vast scope creep. The intent of the Constitution was to limit the fedgov to a precious few tasks including the common defense and courts. That's it. But perversions of the Constitution have lead to welfare states, regulatory empire, promotional empire, military empire, and so on down a dreary list of powers that have been assumed in gross violation of the metes, bounds, and intent of our foundational document. Governmentally speaking, as things currently stand America is a failed nation. As such we are faced with the choice of how to proceed. We could allow things to continue as they have been for the past 150 years and more, or we could decide to make corrections. If we choose the latter, as is apparent with the reelection of Trump for a second term, then we face the question of how to proceed. Given our current state of political reality, it is quite unlikely that there exists any meaningful possibility for making the necessary adjustments working within the normal delimiters of the system. That is because the system is so very broken. This fact then narrows our choices to "do nothing" and "take extraordinary measures". The latter carries huge risk, but is the only way that holds any reasonable chances of succeeding. And so we can wring our hands and do nothing because of the grave risks associated with extraordinary action, in which case we as a nation are as good as dead, or we can take extraordinary action, and bear the risks like men rather as shrinking violets. The worst that can happen in the latter case is that we meet with failure and are doomed the same as in the case where we default. The fact that the extraordinary measures being taken by Trump are, for many, very scary is good. Not only should they be scary, they should be terrifying for everyone. It has been our collective failure to BE the "government" which has lead to our currently atrocious circumstance. Let it linger in the hearts of all that we don't ever allow ourselves to fail ourselves again.

Point of order: shut it down, THEN audit. Then arrest, charge, try, convict, and imprison for life with no chance of pardon or parole all who violated the Public Trust. The time for tyranny to die is here, the only question remaining being whether we actually kill it.

What section of Philly isn't shitty? I ask as a former resident.

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Not that big a reach. The Hispanic/Indian cartels are nothing like the Italian mobs in that the latter held the families of their rivals sacrosanct. There was no retribution against uninvolved relatives. To do so was tantamount to suicide. You would be handled. The South of the Border types are animals, and i insult animals in so equating them. Back ca. 1978 I was driving into Manhattan to work at the Engineering Societies Library. I was in typical rush house bumper to bumper traffic on Grand Central Parkway and what did I spy but a silver Mercedes parked on the very broad shoulder, well off the roadway. Cannot tell you why, but something in me was just itching to see that that was about, but I had to get to work. That evening on the news, that Mercedes was center stage. Two adults shot dead in the front seats and an 11 month old infant shot dead in the back seat. There was $1MM in cash in the trunk. This was a Colombian drug hit - revenge for God only knows what and they murdered an infant. That is how the South of the Border sorts operate. They changed EVERYTHING because they are empty-headed, soulless simulacra who have no boundaries of which to make mention. They kill anyone and everyone they deem fit for killing. They have no self-control, nor morals; just the pure pragmatic drive to destroy all who get in their way or otherwise displease. And so it would not put it past them to have engineered this disaster for the sake of some retribution or the delivery of a message. Not saying it is the case, but that were it to prove so I would be in no way surprised.

Well, we got #3. A United Airlines flight had to abort takeoff due to an engine catching fire. Thankfully they hadn't reached V2 and stopped safely. There is now a pattern. It is not clear what that pattern is, as yet, but something is going on here and it is not statistically organic. Chaos... Aye captain, indeed. I would repspectfully suggest people get out of normalcy mode, at least part way, and start exercising SHTF mode just in case things go wonky. Do note how uncharacteristically demur the lefties have been. Short of the usual cell phone rageposts, there has been precious little action afoot and nothing of substance. That revolting little cockroach Booker has effectively called for violence with his "fight them in the streets" declaration. It will be interesting to see how that pans out, but I cannot imagine the left sleeping through the coming four years. That would be disturbing indeed. But if they erupt as I suspect, I surely hope Americans will decline to sit idly for it. My beloved Portland was set to ruin and I would hate to see it happen to any other city. Perhaps the cops will actually do their putative jobs this time around, rather than beating little girls and shooting their dogs and killing their parents for having had the temerity to sell lemonade on their front lawns.

Several things don't make sense here. Media are going on about altitude violations. The grand error lay in violating the approach corridor. There's all sorts of facts that don't add up. The hawk cre needs to be investigated with a curry comb to verify that there was no suicide in all this. I will be interested in see what they conclude.

OK, something is beginning to smell here. Two in as many days? If that thing was fully fueled, it had over 1000 gallons of Jet-A. That is a lot of energy. It's being reported that the aircraft exploded, but who can say yet? If there is a third, I will start thinking conspiratorially.

I see - so now you presume to understand my interests. Please elaborate. How's about we hash it our for real. No bullshit, no evasions, no links, just man to man argumentation minus the hand-wringing and other overwrought emotions? If you can prove your case, I am happy to concede. Up for it?

If you cannot take the time to explain yourself in your own words, then we have nothing to talk about. Tossing a link at me with nothing more fails.

Add to the fact that they are Canadians and any objections should magically dissipate in an instant. I mean, CANADIANS!

This should be relatively easy to establish. Anyone violating the rights of Americans should be investigated as per the relevant invents, and if found to have done so, they should face felony charges and the facts of the matter should be made very public. Transparency is your friend. I have no problem with punishing those states where they have transgressed. By the same token as above, any "government" agent violating the rights of Americans need to lose their job, all attached benefits, and stand trial. I don't care what political affiliation they may claim, or deny. Those people need to go, I agree.

They don't give a shit. We are talking about soulless simulacra. They appear human, but are not, much as is the case with the muslims wrecking the UK.

Just be glad it's only the Brits on their ways to extinction... at least so far. It will be interesting to see how Trump's resurrection effects all this.

Allahu akbar!

The British "government", rotten as it has been since antiquity, has gone full-globalist on their own. This is why we in America must never relinquish our weapons. Even if we cannot win, we can take as many of the scum with us, which is better than kneeling in wait for the final stroke.

OOOOOOOOooooooooo...

If he's not Muslim, then why even mention that he has "no known links to Islam"? This should rouse at least some suspicion. That said, I thought the gun confiscation was supposed to prevent such things from happening. Huh...

The gastrointestinal distress I am having with what is going on with the roundup is that this is the brand of thing that gets to going sideways rather quickly and with greater ease than one might think. In principle I have no problem with expelling illegal aliens. They violated immigration statutes and should be expelled, especially in the cases we have seen since Biden took office. Anyone believing that a gigantic fat slob with a cell phone walked 1000+ miles across the Mexican desert to come to the United States for the sake of becoming an American, is an idiot, is peddling under and unpublished agenda, or both. I vote for door #3. I am endlessly wary of any "let mee zee yor paypuz..." activity in a putatively free land. Visions of soviet and chicom henchmen come immediately to mind. However, we now stand between a rock and hard place, thanks to the handlers who had their hands up Biden's exit vent. I hold precious little doubt that what we have experienced is the work of outside third-parties whose interests by no means coincide with those of the mean American. One need only hearken back to Alinsky so see a very clear pattern of malice intended to bring further ruin to Americans in what I can confidently infer to be part of the effort to eliminate America as such. The question remains: is the roundup and immediate expulsion of illegal aliens under the currently prevailing conditions an absence of due process. It seems to to naive eyes, but I remain skeptical in large part because thus far Trump has been exceedingly cautious in coloring inside the lines of statutory requirements. Whether he has done so because he is a true patriot or that he wishes to avoid the Democrats and other malefactors he knows to be laying in wait, is irrelevant. He is by no means a stupid man and I believe he learned many very vital lessons from Trump 1.0, and must therefore give at least a nod to the possibility and likelihood that this move has been very keenly thought out. That all said, my apprehension remains that this is a good thing that stands perilously close to the ragged edges of going way wrong in just a few heartbeats, and the longer it goes on, the greater the risk of it going wrong due to normalization resulting from the development of the callouses that some from long-term acclimation. This is a very real danger given the fact that removing, say, ten million people from America is not going to be achieved any time soon. If even a quarter of that is accomplished cleanly in the coming four years, I will be somewhat surprised and ready to heap my congratulations on those doing the work.