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    Today, 06:00 AM
    Seven Reasons To Be Highly Skeptical Of The Gulf Of Oman Incident In a move that surprised exactly zero people, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has wasted no time scrambling to blame Iran … Pompeo concluded before hastily shambling off, taking exactly zero questions. Here are seven reasons to be extremely skeptical of everything Pompeo said: 1. Pompeo is a known liar, especially when it comes to Iran. Pompeo has a well-established history of circulating blatant lies about Iran … he recently told an audience at Texas A&M University that when he was leading the CIA, “We lied, we cheated, we stole. We had entire training courses.” 2. The US empire is known to use lies and false flags to start wars.
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    Today, 05:43 AM
    Trump’s Pompeo’s claim is devoid of any thought. Quick initial impressions from Trump/Pompeo’s “smoking gun” video: Nothing in the video confirm the boat is even Iranian. One could just as easily claim is Saudi, or U.S. or Israeli, or UAE or Omani, or anyone else The video does not establish a “limpet” mine or anything at all attached to the ship. It is hard to tell if there is even anything being removed at all. From the movement of ther people if anything is being removed from the ship, it would appear a magnetic anchor tethering the boat to the ship. Interestingly the edited video is only 1 minute 40 seconds long. Where is the video showing the boat approaching the ship? Where is the rest of the video? Might it show on approach the crew attaching a magnetic tether to the ship? Why are they hiding all the rest of the video of what the boat did and its approach? The US government states the video was taken at 4:10 p.m. local time – approximately 10 hours after the explosion. So the US government and US Navy just left the smoking gun evidence sit there for ten hours to purportedly allow the alleged culprits to come back 10 hours later in broad daylight, after already rescuing crews, and remove the “smoking gun” evidence. The alleged Iranians supposedly came back to the “scene of the crime” 10 hours later, in broad daylight, wearing reflective vests, with a crew that appears to be up to 18 people on the boat to remove the “smoking gun” evidence that the US government just let sit there for 10 hours. The video itself is of such horrible quality as to call into question its use, alleged conclusions and legitimacy. The US government has bases all around the gulf including in Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman as well as ships throughout the Persian gulf. Washington has made it a hotbed. US has surveillance drones, and surveillance planes and surveillance satellites watching everything throughout the gulf. And this alleged retrieving of the “smoking gun” evidence occurred ten hours after the blast. The US government would have had a litany of surveillance focused on the event by that time. Why is the only video horrendously grainy, out of focus, zooming in and out and shaky? Why is the video converted to black and white? This is not FLIR video, this is regular video. Why is this surveillance video converted to black and white?
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    Today, 05:26 AM
    "Master and and commander" ? "sole source of power"? what retarded comic book are these lines coming from? So SS would say that Obama could have committed any act whatsoever to obstruct investigation into the Obama administration wrongdoing regardless of law? Where was SS arguing Obama can do anything he wants to to obstruct any investigation by Congress or obstruct any special prosector Congress appoints. That for any investigation into Hillary crimes or Obama FISA spying or investigation into Eric Holder corruption. It is to say that it would be perfectly appropriate and acceptable for Obama to have his attorney general meet with Hillary's husband bill on a jet on a tarmac to discuss strategy to close an investigation against Hillary. Or it would be perfectly appropriate for Obama to authorize his Sec of State to destroy emails crucial to an investigation, or allow his attorney general to funnel weapons to various Mexican cartels to be used against US law enforcement officers, or on and on .... Nixon was impeached not for the Watergate break-in which it was acknowledged he had nothing to do with, but for obstruction of justice after the fact. To say it is impossible for a president to obstruct justice is to say it would be perfectly legal for Obama to threaten investigators, bribe jurors, blackmail judges, destroy evidence. Obama would have been fully within his legal rights to threaten judges. No, being a political office holder of any level is not license to break the law. SS is reaching now reaching the heights of absurdity in the never–ending quest to kneejerk defend all lunacy that is Trump.
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    Today, 12:43 AM
    Social decay is a real thing, though. It's been written about and analyzed quite a bit. The final word probably has yet to be written, but it is a real thing that's been documented. That means that, though every generation might think the subsequent generation is corrupt and lost, some of them are likely right.
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    Yesterday, 10:00 PM
    None of these comments provide anything whatsoever to to support the false claim that Amash "supports the Deepstate use of FISA fraud". SS' list of points by Amash confirms the claim as false. As to the collateral issues - "fruit of the poisonous tree" refers to evidence obtained from an unlawful search. None of the alleged obstruction events came from any unlawful search. These are events that happened months and years after the FISA warrant. None of the evidence of the alleged obstruction was obtained from the FISA warrant. Is a defendant's believes the investigation frivolous or unlawful they can contest on those issues. That belief however is not a permit permit a defendant free rein to commit to put political pressure investigators, or judges, or tamper with witnesses. One corruption does not justify another. SS would be better off arguing no evidence of any obstruction rather than arguing that it is appropriate for a politician to use the power of his his office to pressure and influence investigators and witnesses.
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    Yesterday, 09:25 PM
    First, this statement confirms nothing to support that Amash "supports the Deepstate use of FISA fraud". Secondly, no, a politician corruptly breaking laws to obstruct justice does not become ok simply because the politicians believes the investigation is corrupt. That like saying its ok to break the law because you are only breaking the law to refute others who broke the law. That's nonsensical and has no foundation in any American law. And no opposing subsequent crimes is not endorsement of prior abuse of process. For instance a police officer may hide evidence or destroy evidence of in a case where the defendant actually committed terrible murders. Opposing the corrupt obstruction of justice by the officer after the fact, does not mean you endorse the underlying murders committed by the murderer. You may disagree with Amash's position on obstruction based on lack of evidence of obstruction, and that is a proper argument. Much better than making up falsehoods about Amash's position. I have yet to see any sufficient evidence of any obstruction. However that is based on lack of evidence, not because of a belief that politicians should abuse their power in corrupt ways to rig investigations simply because they believe the investigation is corrupt.
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    Yesterday, 08:57 PM
    AZJoe replied to a thread Happy Father's Day! in Open Discussion
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    Yesterday, 08:54 PM
    Baloney. Straight up lie. Quit pushing lies. Amash has always opposed the entire FISA program and its warrantless spying. Disagree with Amash, fine, but try disagreeing with what he actually says instead of makign up lies about his positions. To make up lies is to admit you cannot dispute his actual position. Amash never cited or referred to anything obtained from the FISA fraud for his impeachment argument. Amash's arguments for impeachment have nothing to do with any evidence obtained by the fraudulent FISA abuses. Amash himself refers to the underlying charges and the investigation as frivolous. Amash's basis for impeachment has to do with Trump's conduct AFTER the FISA fraud allegations. 1130533764310945797
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    Yesterday, 08:34 PM
    BabylonBee (sat) - John Bolton: 'When Has The Government Ever Lied About Attacks On Ships In A Gulf Somewhere Just To Provoke War?'
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    Yesterday, 07:55 PM
    Cowardly Idiot Trump serving his deep state masters, extending FISA orwellian warrantless spying , advocating making FISA abuses permanent (all FISA warrantless spying is an abuse).
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    Yesterday, 05:09 PM
    two things. Firstly, self-defense does not preclude preemptive strikes. One is not obliged to wait for someone to take a shot at them before taking action. Secondly, I have painted you as anything. I don't know you. I don't even know what sex you are, so trust me when I say that I paint nothing of the sort. As for being a pacifist, I myself am just that. What I am not is PASSIVE. The two are quite different. That would depend on the totality of the circumstance. "Of course not" implies "never", and never is a very long time.
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    Yesterday, 04:56 PM
    Perhaps, but thus far it has not. Besides, what do you mean by this, specifically? You would seem to imply that in so catching, the average boob will see the light of truth and come around to reason. I am yet to be convinced of this. For too long? However long Theye exist as a functional monobloc tyrant, I would say that the notion remains valid. It very well might. Employing violence to rid oneself of a tyrant is not the problem. The challenge lies in not becoming the latest tyrant in the wake of victory. We're actually fairly good at killing off tyrants when we are of a mind to do so. What we suck at is managing afterward.
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    Yesterday, 01:12 AM
    Does their failure to recognize excuse or otherwise validate the actions? A man rushes toward you with a gun yelling "this is where you die". He thinks he is in the right, seeing no harm. What do YOU do - stand idly to see how things play out, or do you take action? This is exactly what happened to me on 6/3 when a truck driver on I-64 threatened to murder my wife and myself. He waved a Glock at us, then got out of his truck, approached us, say "this is where you die", and then walked right up to the front of our vehicle, at which point I'd had quite enough of threats and proceeded to run him over with the Subaru. His intentions were irrelevant. His threats, however, were not and I took action with my primary weapon. We agree, but the fact is that they currently face no consequence that dissuades, which is why they continue to misbehave. .
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  • osan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:43 AM
    D00d, that veil was lifted long years ago and the internet makes available endless sources of valid truth regarding the right ways by which to live among one's fellows. The Meaner not only ignores it all, he vehemently rejects it with the shrieking venom of the terrified. He would sooner see his mother sold into a nunnery than so much as think about proper human relations as must certainly differ from his corrupted version of same. So long as he is allowed to put his inadequate pecker where he pleases, consent be damned, and is praised for doing so, the rest of his inborn freedoms can rot for all he cares. I witness this truth every day. For several months in 2015 I was returned to the air at WTSQ in Charleston WV. The majority of the staff there are typical hard-left sorts and hated with venom anything that smacked of freedom beyond the narrow, timid, and paltry limits to which they had been broken and trained. When I described proper human freedom, I would nearly bet money I do not have that had some authority given Michael Early leave to shoot me dead on the spot and the gun with which to do it, he would have at least seriously considered pulling the trigger. He is a typical left-leaning degenerate who could not shut it about how he spent a decade as a heroin addict, thinking that this made him "edgy", when in fact it only made him out as a blithering idiot. But everyone else, beside a handful of us, praised him and... well, just wow... This is the stupidity that ranges freely from sea to shining sea and which is regarded as some sort of virtue. Most who work in "government" are nothing more than useful idiots and moral cowards who have not the sand nor fabric to refuse the felonious orders issued to them by their superiors. Remember Nürnberg, where "vee ver only follovink ohduz" failed to save the criminals from the gallows? Whatever happened to the moral courage that put nooses around those deserving necks? Today, a cop murders, claims he was following orders or was afeared, and he skates. The same may be said of many other agents of the Tyrant. Deep is the doodoo in which we find ourselves. We could get ourselves out in a matter of days or, at most, weeks. But no... we choose to rest idly in the face of murderous tyranny. That's on each and every one of us.
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    06-11-2019, 08:37 AM
    There's been arguments that this creates more problems than it solves, since employers will just assume possible criminal status from the background of the applicants if they can't ask the question. We all know who that will hurt the most. In any case, employers should be able to ask that and be able to drug test employees and prospective employees whenever they want, even if drugs were legal.
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    06-11-2019, 05:40 AM
    Yes yes, that should probably go without saying. That has little to nothing to do with my question of practice in the real world. I mind my own business. I know some people who mind theirs. We are a distinct minority. Vast legions of people do not. The so-called "left" is most guilty of this, what with their busybody attitudes, but those on the "right" are by no means free of guilt there, either. The two differ only in the details. Lefties want to shove their queeer genitalia in your face and righties want to toss you into the death house for having an abortion. Once again, I side with the "right" more than left, but in terms of the salient qualities, saying one is better than the other is often a study in splitting splits of hairs. Maybe, maybe not. Generally speaking, they are moral degenerates, so I put nothing past them. But once again, what has this to do with practices aimed at claiming our rights? Eliminate "government"? Sure. I'm 103.618% on board with that, but thus far there is zero indication that we are able to do it, not due so much to material limitations, but rather those of mind. Speaking statistically, our attitudes suck ass in a way perhaps never before seen in all human history. The people of Sodom and Gemmorah somehow seem to me virtuous in comparison with what we have become, the modern human race. It is disgusting to behold and there stands at best a vanishingly small chance that anyone, anywhere will be able to get the yoke of the tyrant off their necks because Theye hold great material power, as well as that over the minds of the legions of willing boobs who are all too eager to see Freemen destroyed for having the temerity and gall to embark on paths the Weakmen have not the courage to so much as consider. That is the reality as we currently stand. I will likely never say there is no chance that this would change, but such a change would have to be so deeply disruptive as to place souls in immediate danger of imminent extinction. Thus far, most of humanity rests far enough from the edges of destruction - at least in their beliefs - that they will not be roused to change. This is our corrupt nature, or upbringing, or both and it is powerful and always working in the favor of clever tyrants whose absence of moral compunction leaves them free to tell whatever lies they feel they can pull off without significant consequence. The masses eat that shit up in always identical fashion, whether it's a stooge like Obama promising them "free" shit, or a Trump who, being marginally and palpably better - perhaps even greatly so - still poses the tyrant's hazard precisely because we, the dumbass masses, step away from our responsibilities to ourselves and each other to be governors and leaders. Nowhere nearly enough of us assume those personal responsibilities such that there is little to no chance that small groups of individuals are able to usurp and abuse as they have been since this republic was founded. If those behaviors became immediately and perhaps terminally hazardous to those holding various office, the would-be tyrants would remain as such, rather than graduating to actual-tyrant status through the usual chain of obedience. But all that requires warrior culture, and we are nowhere nearly that. And so I reiterate: hence, the world. We are über-copulated. The tyrant's mega-dong lives in our backsides and every day he pushes a smidge more deeply as we sit in idle, inert tolerance.
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    06-10-2019, 08:17 PM
    I am at a loss. Your link didn't explain much of anything in terms of actual tactics. Uh huh. There are a few problems with this. Firstly, "personal ideas for freedom" is a nonsense. Consider that "lefties" generally regard "freedom" as the liberty to stick one's naughty bits where they want. They believe they should be free to get free stuff like birth control and abortions. Without an objective definition of what it means to be properly free, we are going nowhere. Regardless, I suggest you go to NYC, strap on a sidearm and go waltzing about, then get back to us about how it all worked out for you. Your idea, at least as I understood what you wrote, is woefully inadequate because men with guns will act against you with full willingness to murder you if you give them 1/1000000th of an invalid pretext for doing so.
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    06-10-2019, 07:03 PM
    How good are we, really, that we do nothing? I'm not sure we're good at all. It is easy to be good when the being is easy. It is notably more difficult to be good when to be so entails risk and real danger.
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    06-10-2019, 06:57 PM
    That's the $64 question and I'm not confident we could. People like to talk. What they don't like very much is to do, especially if it involves risk. Hence, the world.
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    06-10-2019, 12:10 PM
    My gut reaction is to say that we need to remove all "states" forthwith and return to old world freedom where the hazards are at least as threatening as the perceived benefits may be seen as thrilling. This would be the ideal solution, but in order to go with that option, people would have to be willing to accept the hazard part, which they are not, which is why they want pretty slavery. They think they can have something at no cost. They are idiots, and that assessment is generous beyond forgiveness. The problem with this, beyond the cowardice and other corruptions of the meaner that drives him into the arms of lying tyrants, rests in our technologies. A thousand years ago, a single individual held some hope of evading the tyrant and possibly even being capable of fighting off some of his agents. Today, small numbers of men are able to wield such power that the corrupted and cowardly meaner ends up with little incentive to choose either sense or courage. Those who are unwilling to stoop to the lowest denominators of raw and undifferentiated political power, will be mastered by those who do not share that compunction. At best, we might be able to pull off a small colony of liberty minded people, but even that rests deep in doubt. Consider NH - the FSP has not come even close to fulfilling its promises and by all appearances, it is not going to do so any time soon. I don't see us as doing even the least of this. We are too far away from the sand needed to live as free men. Those at the top appear to be ever less inclined to tolerate even quietly cloistered groups who do not toe the line of the "state".
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