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    Today, 11:07 PM
    #4 April 14 The OSBI announced Sunday night that two bodies had been found in rural Texas county, Oklahoma. While the identities of the deceased were not released, the update was made by sharing a social post that announced the arrest of four individuals in connection with the disappearances of Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley. 1779676929819357360 https://twitter.com/OSBI_OK/status/1779676929819357360
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    Today, 10:59 PM
    #3 Tifany and her boyfriend Tad belong to some group they call God's Misfits. Allegedly "anti government", though I don't know the details of whatever their beliefs are. One her facebook page was a yard sign opposing some local tax increase (nothing burger) and a Trump sign or flag. This par of Oklahoma is nowheresville, flat country, with rodeo going farmers and ranchers. Way more cattle than humans. Tifany is on the hospital board and is chair of the county GOP (which isn't saying much because there's few people involved in it). Two of the Misfits, a couple named Cook, had the little kids for the night before the women went missing. Tifany picked them up by noon (after the visitation exchange was to have taken place). Tifany told the Cooks that Veronica had cancelled the visit. Two other people in the Misfits are Cole and Cora Twombly, also ranchers. Another guy named Paul Grice, who's property is across the road from Tad, Tifany's SO, is also in the group. He's in his early thirties, with a wife and three little kids, and does ranch work. It's Paul Grice who looks like he might be an informant.
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    Today, 10:48 PM
    #2. The father of the children and Veronica had never been married (they're young). Veronica had custody of the kids but he went to court to get custody and won, claiming Veronica's younger brother had sexually molested the kids. He was granted custody and Veronica given supervised visitation. The father's name is Wrangler (really). He's had drug and booze problems, with arrests, and he left the kids with his mother (divorced), Tifany Adams, a wealthy rancher and powerful local player who owns thousands of acres. Tifany has a BF named Tad and they have separate residences. Though her son, Wrangler, had legal custody, Tifany denied him the right to take his kids, saying he was a drugged out, boozed up loser. Sheriff called and said the kids were probably better off at grandma's (Tifany). Sometime after, Wrangler, who is now married with another kid and a pregnant wife, gets some drug and/or alcohol charge along with something to do with a gun. He goes to jail and then court sends to him six months of in-patient rehab. He was in rehab when Veronica and Jilian went missing. Tifany's facebook page is full of pictures of Wrangler's and Veronica's kids. When I saw it I knew the grandmother was never planning on returning to their mother, who was on a legal path to getting them back. The custody fight has been going on for at least three years and one of the last motions or whatever accused Tifany of "child stealing" (a codified crime). Veronica was doing well and following all of the court's requirements and was about to get unsupervised visitation which would then lead to regaining full custody (over Tifany's dead body, as far Tifany was concerned). On several occasions, Tifany cancelled vistitaions, in violation of court orders. Tifany conducts herself as though no rules apply to her.
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    Today, 10:28 PM
    #1 March 30, two Kansas women, Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley, reported missing in Oklahoma. They were traveling together. Veronica was going to pick up her small children for a court ordered, supervised visit (every Saturday from 10AM to 5PM). Jilian, the wife of a pastor, was a court approved supervisor. Upon pick up, the plan was to take the kids for a birthday party (presumably back in Kansas, where Veronica resided). This took place right on the border of the two states. When Veronica, Jilian and kids did not arrive by noon, some of Veronica's family went looking for them. They found Veronica's car with a smashed out window, blood all over the road, Veronica's glasses in the road 100' away, next to a broken hammer, and a magazine/clip/whatever those are called, for a gun, in Jilian's purse, but no gun. Both women gone. the exchange was to take place between Veronica and the children's paternal grandmother, who the kids were residing with.
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    Today, 10:06 PM
    Okay. Do you know the general story? Need to know where to begin.
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    Today, 09:36 PM
    Anyone here followed that news story, at all? I know this isn't a crime forum but there's something particularly interesting with this because a lot of people suspect one person mentioned in the arrest affidavit might be a federal agent. I won't write more because no one may interested but just wanted to see if anyone has paid attention to this. acptulsa
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    Today, 09:24 PM
    lol This story was related to Art Bell, in the 90s, by a caller. I was really into it back then but it ended up looking like a hoax and nobody could ever find the alleged hole. That said, there are some scary holes (the geographic kind) and it seems the most I've seen are in Russia. https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tech/332855-holes-craters-siberia-yamal-nature
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    Today, 09:10 PM
    Fantastic pics! What did she do the photographing with and did it require a special lens?
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    Today, 03:22 PM
    Well sure. That's all part of the general strategy. Take the ground out from under people's feet so they can no longer tell one thing from another. Neutralize their cognitive reach by keeping them ignorant of all standards, save the one that says there are no standards. This destroys everything in a man; his faith, trust, innate intelligence because he has nothing solid against which to work it. Not unlike muscles, a mind rendered idle atrophies. We are in the hands of the devils that scared Satan from hell such that he's now at Heaven's gate, tearily begging asylum from an evil that left him paling. Certainly so of Biden. Trump, I'm not yet quite convinced on, though his failure to drain the swamp was indeed a spectacular fiasco.
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    Today, 03:05 PM
    OK, simmer down. Let's look at a recent fact. RFKJ suddenly changes to "independent" (how potentially ironic) shortly before a very important election (as elections go, anyhow). Recall the words of the filthy communist shill, FDR, who candidly quipped that in politics there was no such things as coincidences. I do not say that this closes the door on the man, but it certainly gives much upon which to keep one's eyes. Now consider the possibility that everything we see is theater... everything significant, that is. Imagine that the Democrats see they are going to lose in a big way and sense that maybe they won't be able to get away with yet another stolen election. What shall we do? Have one of our... <AHEM> trump cards come out to play. Out of nowhere, the great Kennedy name drops from the DNC sleeve, but knowing their credibility is slipping badly, the new candidate declares independence in the effort to enhance credibility of trustworthiness. After all, this is a Kennedy! We instruct him, perhaps years in advance (after all, these people are careful planners, IMO), to begin spewing a carefully architected litany of talking points that will get conservatives going "hmmm...", the goal there being to siphon off just enough votes to once again make credible a stolen election appear "clean". Clean enough to avoid consequences, that is. Wild, you say? Too wild? Sure, and FDR didn't taunt Japan into attacking us. Northwoods never happened. Tonkin. Weapons of mass destruction. Lusitania. Russia 1917. China 1940s-70s. Khmer Rouge. Amin. Gulf wars. 9/11. Covid. Shall we go on with the drearily long list of grand conspiracies in which nobody believed until after the rotten facts became what we now know them to have been?
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    Today, 01:25 AM
    He is so wonderful. I'm glad he made the point about how important it is to have actual vocal conservatives because people are so fed up with big R Republicans that the house could lost to the Bolsheviks.
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    Today, 01:09 AM
    Terrifying and the pain is being inflicted on us, not the perps.
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    Yesterday, 11:48 PM
    When I heard him say that I thought he was delusional. He said it with such conviction. Total lunatic.
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    Yesterday, 11:39 PM
    Wow. I'd cast her in a biker movie.
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    Yesterday, 11:36 PM
    Damn good tweet right there.
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    Yesterday, 11:32 PM
    Cannibals are POC. Growing up on Tarzan movies, two things that always freaked me out were cannibals and quicksand.
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    Yesterday, 11:15 PM
    I certainly agree with that but when someone is brought up on fake/made up charges, you'd think a defendant could appeal that right up to the SCOTUS to stop the prosecution.
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    Yesterday, 11:05 PM
    Suzanna Pleshette (sp) was awesome. I think she died fairly young.
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    Yesterday, 04:19 PM
    Clearly you do not understand the first thing about me. Go in peace.
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    Yesterday, 12:47 AM
    Yes! Good memory. Dennis was the man back then. Around that time he did the scary movie of the man being chased by a semi truck.
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    Yesterday, 12:45 AM
    lol Can't believe I watched just an episode of the Munsters.
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    Yesterday, 12:18 AM
    Thank you! I loved Mr Ed.
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    Yesterday, 12:15 AM
    One of the greatest of all time. Remember when Columbo was part of a rotating group of shows? One week would be Columbo, the next McMillian & Wife and I can't recall the third one. All good.
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    04-15-2024, 08:36 PM
    I can't stand what's going on. How is it possible to make shit up to prosecute someone on? This is Stalin's show trials. How were the very charges themselves not appealed and thrown out?
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    04-15-2024, 07:51 PM
    I maintain my insistence on https://freedomisobvious.blogspot.com/2021/07/amendment-xxix.html
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    04-15-2024, 07:48 PM
    I gave up there.
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    04-14-2024, 11:08 PM
    I don't doubt but would like to see where those figures came from. I'd add mothers with Munchausen's by proxy, too. That's not in the cluster B group but should be.
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    04-14-2024, 08:03 PM
    That is certainly so, but why not use Theire rotten system to make them have to work as tediously as possible in that sphere? It may not work out that way, but then it costs one very little to give it a swing.
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    04-14-2024, 02:37 PM
    Press Bureau of the SVR of Russia, April 9 04/09/2024 The Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation reports that the United States is resorting to increasingly desperate methods in its attempts to turn the tide on the Ukrainian theater of operations, replenishing the ranks of the demoralized soldiers of the Armed Forces with a multi-national rabble, prone to armed violence. According to data received by the SVR of Russia, to this end, US PMCs led by the Drug Enforcement Administration and the US FBI have begun recruiting Mexican and Colombian drug cartels serving sentences in American prisons to participate in the Ukrainian conflict on the side of the degrading Kiev regime. The first batch of thugs is planned to be thrown into the war zone in the summer of this year. Gangging will consist of several hundred Mexicans and Colombians. In case of consent to a “commandment”, they are promised a complete amnesty in the expectation that they will never return. If a pilot project to replenish the ranks of the Armed Forces by Latin American coal miners succeeds, then the program for recruiting flayer will be continued and even expanded at the expense of criminals from other countries in which a difficult criminal situation is noted. At the same time, the recruitment of foreign criminal elements into the ranks of the Ukrainian army is not without problems. Negotiations with drug lords are difficult, without the blessing of which no gangster will dare to cooperate with the American authorities, fearing for his life and loved ones. The gang leaders tend to sell their scumbags more expensively, jeopardizing the fulfillment of the American plan. Of course, the prospect of another influx of foreign "soldiers of good luck" from among the serial killers, drug addicts and rapists to the long-suffering lands of the Russian world is alarming. However, the plans of the Americans in this way to get a tactical advantage on the battlefield are doomed to failure. Administration J. Biden actually signs his powerlessness and once again demonstrates the failure of the Kiev regime she feeds on.
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