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    Today, 01:37 AM
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    Today, 01:22 AM
    The only way we can answer the question, "Should X be criminalized," is by, first, answering, "What does God say about X?" The two questions go together, when we are discussing what sexual sins should receive civil sanctions. But, of course, it takes wisdom to understand how to apply those sanctions in our modern world, and that can be challenging at times, I admit. But, nonetheless, it still needs to be considered when we're assessing public policy and its relation to sexual taboos. Another thing to keep in mind is that the page marked "New Testament" in our Bibles is not inspired by God. That fact is very important because when we are talking about continuities and discontinuities between the Old and New Covenants, we need to realize that the Old Testament laws still applied when the New Testament was being written. Thus, the authors' approach to how Old Testament laws would apply to them in their own day would not have been riddled with many of the assumptions that we face today in modern Christianity (with ideas such as the "Two-Kingdoms Approach," "Law vs. Gospel" dichotomies, Dispensationalism, and other concepts which inherently but inadvertently pit the Old Testament against the New Testament). Unfortunately, you, yourself, are guilty of those very approaches to the New Testament, which is why you fail at understanding how the Old Testament applies to us today. Remember, "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16). If sexual acts were condemned with civil penalties in the Old Covenant, then those penalties apply civilly, in some way, in the New Covenant. Otherwise, you would have to say that God made a mistake when He decreed those sexual acts as punishable by civil law under the Old Covenant. But, once again, it takes wisdom to understand how they apply today because the world has changed since the times of the Old Covenant. But the moral indictment against certain sexual behaviors does not change because moral laws are eternal, by nature.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    Today, 12:48 AM
    Ronin, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in relation to Paul's theology. It's funny how you consider yourself more educated about the relationship between Jesus and Paul when world-renown Biblical scholars, such as N.T. Wright, have been applauded for their research and writings about Paul's life and theology. If you have any serious, objective interest in how Paul's theology was consistent with Christ's doctrines, then I recommend that you watch this lecture from one of the best Pauline scholars in the world, and learn something:
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 12:27 AM
    Yeah, I was ruffin it. Heh. Anyway, I'm freakin spontaneous, Carlybee. You know? Sometimes I just snatch up and eat what's within arms distance on a casual stroll through muh kitchen.
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    Yesterday, 11:58 PM
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    Yesterday, 11:20 PM
    This was a good band that never made it thanks to the negative energy Grunge crap that came along in the early 90s promoting anger and misery.
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    Yesterday, 11:07 PM
    Aaaaaaaw sht. Random spin might be stuck on my sleaze folder. :eek:
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:49 PM
    No, you misread my post you quoted right there^^. (Intentionally?) Note I said "debate and discourse". The positive claim is the thesis of your copypasta. Did you forget to read it? I've read it. It doesn't prove what your claiming in this thread.
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:38 PM
    Theo didn't do that in this thread. And King James was a "Paulinist" by your deifnition, FYI. ;)
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:34 PM
    This^^ And the people Paul converted/ministered to were in communion with the rest of the Christian world till the Great Schism. This would not have happened if there was a disagreement between what Paul taught and what everyone else taught.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:32 PM
    Question. If you assume that governments are just puppets of the mega elite, bankers, whatever, then why do you worry about stopping their influence? If they are going to have coercive influence anyway whether or not there is a government they way pay taxes to have a government? Isn't that like sacrificing captives in order to prevent a solar eclipse and or make it end "early?"
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  • heavenlyboy34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:30 PM
    In rational debate and discourse, the positive claimant (you in this case) is required to provide evidence of a claim. If you are too lazy to do so, fine. But you won't persuade anyone if you choose not to. Cheers! :)
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:34 PM
    I had a friend from Saudi when I was in college in the late 80s / early 90s. He fit in quite well with the coed blonde bimbos that wanted to jump his bones. I often wished I had fit in half as well as he did. :( It must have been his Tom Selick mustache that did it.
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:20 PM
    What "uncontrolled systems" are you referring to, fisharmor?
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  • Theocrat's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:16 PM
    Exactly, erowe1. That's all Ronin Truth does. He can't give a definitive, comprehensive rebuttal to anything in which he disagrees with. All he knows how to do is copy and paste links. That's why his credibility, especially in these kinds of discussions, is always suspect because of his laziness and ignorant flippancy of facts that he has no intention of researching. He seriously needs to leave these forums and stick to playing Solitaire online or something.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:02 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Back to Brexit / Texit. I mentioned one way this could happen without another civil war. So what's left? If there's no mechanism for secession in the constitution....you can change the constitution. Mark Levin et al (and I don't trust them) are pushing for an article 5 convention of the states. Well in that convention a "secession amendment" could be added. Or the new constitution could be ratified to just leave out Texas and anyone else that doesn't want to be part of the U.S. Is that idea appealing to anyone? Just curious.
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    Yesterday, 09:01 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    I haven't done an exhaustive search but that's all I have ATM. And true. No one was arrested. They just lost about $1 million worth of plants. All is well in the land of the free...home of the brave. I'm pretty no dogs were killed either or AF would have covered it.
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    Yesterday, 08:37 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Did you read this article? http://truthinmedia.com/feds-raid-colorado-pot-industry-after-promising-not-to-intervene/ In Denver, recreational shops were scheduled to open in only a few short weeks. However, according to The Denver Post, federal agents raided the homes of two individuals and more than a dozen facilities selling the drug. All parties involved claim they were properly licensed, followed all state regulations and were not doing anything which would have prompted the feds to step in.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:35 PM
    Again, why should a steep drop off sign stop someone from putting his foot in the water? Not the same kind of danger even if you want to pretend it is. Steep drop offs don't jump out of the water. Gators do.
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:32 PM
    I'm still curious as to why you think this is an issue. I guess to you the words "steep drop off" means "If your feet touch the water you are likely to die." My brain isn't wired that way but perhaps yours is. I can walk with one foot on the sand and one foot in the water and be 100% safe even with a "steep drop off" some 10 feet or less into the water. Not so with a gator. Okay. That's a crocodile and since you seem so intent on being right you'll probably argue that's different somehow. Here's an alligator jumping into a canoe. Look! There was a sign warning of gators! How about that?
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    Yesterday, 08:16 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Well good for them. Totally unnecessary and not authorized by the action taken by the law that decriminalized marijuana in Colorado. That law only addressed Colorado marijuana statutes. It didn't address federal drug laws. :rolleyes: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=DEA+raid+colorado Federal drug raids are still going on in Colorado. Edit: And looking at the stories of federal drug raids in Colorado, so far I don't see any cases of sheriffs standing down the feds. I do see cases of sheriffs joining in and helping with some of the raids. :( :mad:
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    Yesterday, 08:04 PM
    Natural Citizen replied to a thread For Sale: Water Distillation Unit in Marketplace
    I've been meaning to buy a couple of these. I think someone around here is an an authorized dealer if I'm not mistaken. Bryan, maybe?
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:59 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Nope. Not at all. You either don't understand what Colorado did WRT its drug laws or Civil War history or both.
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    Yesterday, 07:57 PM
    Here's hoping Gary Johnson gets to 15%!
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    Yesterday, 07:55 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Colorado not enforcing federal drug didn't involve Colorado firing on the equivalent of Ft. Sumpter. :rolleyes:
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:52 PM
    Okay. Since this hypothetical is apparently soooo important to you I'll answer it. A sign that says "No swimming, steep drop off" is equivalent to a sign that says "No swimming, alligators." Seriously it is. Both signs not only say "No swimming", but they also specifically warn about the danger. I'm thinking you didn't think your analogy all way through. Now I guess you will say I'm "name calling"? Saying your argument is "irrelevant, incompetent and immaterial" is not name calling. I guess you didn't watch Perry Mason? Anyway, if you wanted to have a correct analogy you should have said "If I had a sign that said No swimming and I didn't warn about a drop off would people be just as upset?" I dunno. Maybe. But the better question is, if the reason you're putting up the "no swimming sign" is because you're worried about the drop off, why not warn about the drop off? Seriously, why do you have this problem with signs that give adequate warnings? Is it because such signs cost a little more money in paint? Regardless of the legal issues I would want anyone I was inviting on my property to be as warned about hidden dangers as possible. Pennies aren't a hidden danger. A drop off you can't see is. Alligators are a hidden danger. If I knew there was a gator on my property and I invited someone on my property and their child got eaten and I hadn't warned them about the gator I would feel like shit. Maybe you would sleep just fine at night but I wouldn't. If I was the one eaten by a gator that I didn't know about but the property owner knew about, it wouldn't bother me one bit if my family sued. (Well I'd be dead and I don't believe in ghosts but I did have a ghost that could hang around and communicate it would be high fiving my family).
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    Yesterday, 07:37 PM
    Okay. Well I voted Ron both times in the primary and for the constitution party in the general. In 2008 I was happy to see McCain loose because I hated how he and others had treated Ron and I seriously was hoping that at the very least Obama would stop the wars even though my gut told me he wouldn't. (My gut was right). In 2012 I was less happy to see Romney lose. I despised Romney as much as McCain, but Obama had already started doing real damage and hadn't stopped any wars. (Okay. We had "left" Iraq, but not a day before the date Bush had negotiated us to leave.) Still it was good to be able to say to the stupid Romney supporters who voted for him because "He's the one that can beat Obama" that "I told you so!" Now I can't stand Trump for what he did to Rand Paul, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz. And some of the folks around here who were on the "trash Cruz" bandwagon, to the point of spreading national enquirer lies about the man, I will have a hard time forgiving regardless of what happens next. That was disgusting and unbecoming of the liberty movement. And because of how foul and evil such Trump supporters were, there is a part of me, albeit a small part, that would love to say "I told you so" if/when he gets his butt handed to him by Hillary. But then I'm torn because I know Hillary will be terrible for the country. Not torn enough to even think about voting for that jackass in the general election mind you, but torn still. That said, Trump undermining the second amendment (already flip flopped on it and I've yet to see him come back and "clarify" his no fly list statement to any satisfactory degree), and Trump's support for touchback amnesty will be enough "I told you so." I hope Trump doesn't undermine the 2nd amendment, but I hope he does do his "touchback amnesty" plan and, as is the obvious result, Latino immigration goes through the freaking roof! It's not so much that I want more Mexicans here. I could care less one way or another. But for so many Trump supporters this is sooooooo important to them, that when Trump finally betrays them on this, as he has already promised to do, their collective heads will explode. That will make all of this current pain totally worth it.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:30 PM
    I'm just talking to my self here. Notepad kind of thing... Mainstream Media Finally Admits Mass Banker ‘Suicides’ Were Likely a Vast Criminal Conspiracy Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/mainstream-media-finally-admits-mass-banker-suicides-2015-criminal-conspiracy/#bFCEru8cqMGK2ir8.99
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  • jmdrake's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:24 PM
    You know what? I didn't even bother reading the rest of your last post because it is irrelevant, incompetent and completely immaterial. We're not talking about choking on pennies or cliff diving or pit bulls or other dogs. We're talking about wild animals. And there is a legal standard for dealing with wild animals attacking on someone's property. It's called ferae naturae. And the standard is that if a wild animal attacks someone on your property you are not liable unless you have specific knowledge of the danger. If you do then you have a duty to try to ensure the safety of those you invite onto your property and/or warn them of the danger. If they already have equal knowledge of the danger than the duty is met even if you don't warn them or try to protect them. It's that simple. I think you're just trying to have the last word and you are not trying to have a serious discussion at this point. Fine. Have the last word. That doesn't in the least change the legal standard.
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    Brother, I uploaded a vid of Fr. Chris' homily from this week in my DL thread if you're interested. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...20#post5894920 ~hugs~
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    I double checked, and it appears I got the right Cyril according to the OCA. http://oca.org/saints/lives/2015/05/11 Thanks for keeping me in check with the +rep, though! ~hugs~
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    You are in my prayers, brother. May God bless and keep you. ~hugs~
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    Yeah, that was Tesla, the band, I linked there at the end of the quote, TER. Heh. Clickit. You'll see. Interestingly, though, Nikola was actually an Orthadox Christian, now that you mention it. Which is interesting...

    You know, getting back to that link you shared with me, I'm likely going to just have to read the Bible front to back. I see so many different positions taken from verying translation. For me, I'm interested in the actual infrastructure of the book. If that makes sense. I still haven't got through all of that stuff in your link, though. I will, though.
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    I finally got through most of that, TER. A lot of reading. Heh...
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    Thanks, TER. I'll check it out. I'm trying to piece together the so called "Gospels" at the moment. Seems like there are a few. Which is interesting. As well, I've been researching the infrastructure of the Bible. If that makes sense. I suppose you know what I mean. How have you been? I haven't seen you around in a while.
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    That was only 5% of the article. Tradition doesn't really prove anything for a Christian, only the Bible does. The Bible stands over traditions and judges them righty and wrongly.
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    IDK if you caught this news recently: http://oca.org/in-memoriam/protopresbyter-thomas-hopko

    ELLWOOD CITY, PA [OCA]
    Protopresbyter Thomas Hopko, Dean Emeritus of Saint Vladimir’s Orthodox Theological Seminary, Crestwood, NY, and noted Orthodox Christian priest, theologian, preacher, and speaker, fell asleep in the Lord on the afternoon of March 18, 2015.
    cont'd @ link http://oca.org/in-memoriam/protopresbyter-thomas-hopko
    Memory eternal!
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    From a thread earlier today- In a nutshell, it is because Sola pretends to be a Christian but is in reality anti-Vatican, just as many of the early generation of 'reformers' were. To their great and tragic loss, these reformers threw out the baby out with the bathwater, literally. Now, Sola follows their lead.

    I agree with you, but I think it better to make the counter-argument against Sola's argument instead of Sola personally. This is probably what you mean, but the language can be easily construed as a personal attack. God bless and keep you, and sweet dreams brother! ~hugs~ Please keep me in your prayers.
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    Forgive me if I derailed your thread about saints too much. You can mark them for the mods if they're distracting. ~hugs~ God bless and keep you!
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