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So they don't want a bunch of gringos coming down there and fucking the joint up...imagine that?

I'd be amazed if she beats Maggie Goodlander in NH District 2. Latest polling has Goodlander up 11 Even though she was a former aide to John McPain and is an "insider" through and through and both her and her husband are pedigreed swamp dwellers, (He's Biden's National Security Advisor) she'll win this race handily.

Color me shocked. Anybody going to do anything about it? No...I thought so. Carry on.

Looking at the Liberty Candidates form, http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?42-Liberty-Campaigns, Joe Kent and Lilly Tang Williams seem to be the only ones to have made it past their primaries, besides liberty incumbents like Thomas Massie.

You as well. But I don't think we ever "started." I was answering someone's point about the OP movie getting into theaters and explained that winning the election isn't the priority of the people who have the money to get such a movie into theaters. Folks are trying to a culture war as opposed to an election. And...that's fine. Everybody has their own priorities.

Okay. Well I was talking about J.D. Vance's unverified (read debunked) cat story and you started talking about the Bible. I have no idea what you meant by any of that but whatever. Have a great day!

I'm not sure what's confusing. I'm trying to agree with you. I guess I'm the one confused by your argument that peddling debunked videos about cat eating Haitians and going on meet the press and claiming that you "created" the story (when we all know J.D. Vance didn't), is somehow productive or not divisive or whatever it is that you're trying to say. So please...unconfuse me. Edit: This is the word salad I'm trying to parse: Whether stories are "verified" or "unverified" has little if anything to do with whether they also "bring people together" or "pull people apart". "Verified" stories can "pull people apart" - and "unverified" ones can "bring people together". (And that's not even getting into the questions of what "verified" really even means in the first place, which standards of "verification" ought to be applied to which stories under which circumstances, and so forth.)

Okay. Let you know if I ever find such a a movie? Such a what movie? A movie that attacks Kamala Harris? That's in the OP! And I'm not trying to "criticize" it. Quite the contrary I'm making the point that even though the right (supposedly) wants to beat Kamala Harris, they aren't going to support putting the only movie that I'm currently aware of that specifically attacks Kamala Harris into theatres. Nope. Their resources are going to win the "culture war" in between harping for Israel. But okay. However people want to spend their limited resources is on them. Clearly culture war issues and Israel are clearly more important to Ben Shapiro and company. Got it. And I'm betting the only "real racism" is against white people right?

Sure buddy. Whatever you say. Having J.D. Vance peddle an already debunked cat lady video is the way to win hearts and minds. Don't actually focus on the real issues because Nick Fuentes said not to. Just have funny playing in the kitty litter box playing to a base of MAGA hat wearing welfare recipients.

And some things are just counter productive but whatever. The main point I was addressing is why you won't see an actual video attacking Kamala Harris in a way that could win an election while we're in an election year. On a certain level I don't care except that I would love to see more and more black people wake up to the fact that the Democrats don't really care. But "Racism doesn't exist" movies don't really help that. It makes the base feel good though. I'm looking forward to Rand Paul/Thomas Massie 2028.

Yeah. Like the Democrats can pass $780 million dollar spending packages without Republican acquiessance. But thanks for the additional data! Now if only there was a presidential candidate or VP candidate that would talk about immigration in terms of dollars and cents as opposed to cats and dogs. Rand Paul/Thomas Massie 2028?

There was no "magical invisible wall" keeping people out in the 1970s when I was a kid and we were able to walk across the border to Mexico to get a birthday pinata and walk back without knowing when we crossed. During that same trip it was harder to get from Arizona to California because there was a fruit quarantine going on. I think tht's PAF's point. The more the government has gotten involved the worse the immigration problem has become.

You must actually care about winning the election rather than winning the culture war. You know what's in theaters right now? Matt Walsh's "Am I Racist?" Nothing at all to do with the election itself, but hey, gotta fight the culture war.

:rolleyes: Because verfifed stories that can bring people together aren't as fun as unverified stories that pull people apart.

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Going down the EBT high balance rabbit hole I found this story that doesn't seem to be related to immigraiton: https://web.archive.org/web/20210125011903/https://www.bostonherald.com/2013/05/30/next-scandal-platinum-ebt-cards/ Next scandal: Platinum EBT cards RECORDS REQUEST: A receipt showing a hefty EBT card balance, right, has sparked a records request from the state. Above is the keeper of public records in the state, Secretary of State William Galvin.

^This is what the conversation should be about.

As Anti Federalist pointed out, during the Trump years the number of immigrants from Ukraine were less than 10,000. Now it's over 217,000. The difference is not the amount of welfare. The difference is (drumroll please) U.S. foreign policy which destabilized their country! If the welfare state was reduced to nothing, people would still be streaming into the U.S. because of how the U.S. has for over 100 years destablizied Haiti, for the past few decades destablized Venezuela, and for the past few years destablized Ukraine. So until we stop screwing over other people countries it's not going to slow the mass migration numbers. That said, there SHOULD be limits on welfare especially for migrants and people SHOULD investigate if the stories are true. From what I can find so far refugees are granted cash assistance both that the federal and the state level, but I can't find how anyone would end up with $30,000 on an EBT card. https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/orr/orr_asylee_fact_sheet.pdf https://www.dshs.wa.gov/esa/community-services-offices/refugee-cash-assistance#:~:text=To%20be%20eligible%20for%20the,would%20no%20longer%20receive%20RCA. So...why aren't Trump and J.D. Vance talking about ^that? Why isn't anybody talking about that?

So....I read the whole thing. It's got headers so its easy to find the part talking about the welfare state. Here it is: The welfare state and liberty What about the old right-wing canard that you can’t have open borders with a welfare state? It’s wrongheaded. Of course, you can have both. Sure, it might mean the payment of higher taxes, but is that any reason to abandon one’s principles and, in the process, inflict harm on all the people who are not coming to get on welfare? Moreover, keep in mind that both right-wingers and left-wingers favor a welfare state. So they’re saying that advocates of liberty should join them in their support of immigration socialism until the right-wing, left-wing welfare state is dismantled, which might be never. Instead of destroying the freedom that comes with open borders, how about devoting our efforts to dismantling the right-wing, left-wing welfare state? In the meantime, if right-wingers and left-wingers choose to give welfare to foreigners, let’s not be duped into joining them in their wrongdoing. Let’s just continue trying to end their wrongdoing. And make no mistake about it: open borders is not just about bringing an end to death, suffering, rapes, kidnappings, deportations, a Berlin Wall, and a massive police state. Most important, open borders is about liberty. As Thomas Jefferson pointed out in the Declaration of Independence, everyone — not just Americans — has been endowed by nature and God with such fundamental rights as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That’s precisely what most people are doing when they cross political borders — they are trying to sustain their life with labor, entering into mutually agreeable arrangements with others, and pursuing happiness in their own way.

So....why were the "Latinos for Trump" all on one side of the stage? Something is odd about that by itself.

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