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    06-25-2016, 10:32 PM
    Question. If you assume that governments are just puppets of the mega elite, bankers, whatever, then why do you worry about stopping their influence? If they are going to have coercive influence anyway whether or not there is a government they way pay taxes to have a government? Isn't that like sacrificing captives in order to prevent a solar eclipse and or make it end "early?"
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    06-25-2016, 09:34 PM
    I had a friend from Saudi when I was in college in the late 80s / early 90s. He fit in quite well with the coed blonde bimbos that wanted to jump his bones. I often wished I had fit in half as well as he did. :( It must have been his Tom Selick mustache that did it.
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    06-25-2016, 09:02 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Back to Brexit / Texit. I mentioned one way this could happen without another civil war. So what's left? If there's no mechanism for secession in the constitution....you can change the constitution. Mark Levin et al (and I don't trust them) are pushing for an article 5 convention of the states. Well in that convention a "secession amendment" could be added. Or the new constitution could be ratified to just leave out Texas and anyone else that doesn't want to be part of the U.S. Is that idea appealing to anyone? Just curious.
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    06-25-2016, 09:01 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    I haven't done an exhaustive search but that's all I have ATM. And true. No one was arrested. They just lost about $1 million worth of plants. All is well in the land of the free...home of the brave. I'm pretty no dogs were killed either or AF would have covered it.
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    06-25-2016, 08:37 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Did you read this article? http://truthinmedia.com/feds-raid-colorado-pot-industry-after-promising-not-to-intervene/ In Denver, recreational shops were scheduled to open in only a few short weeks. However, according to The Denver Post, federal agents raided the homes of two individuals and more than a dozen facilities selling the drug. All parties involved claim they were properly licensed, followed all state regulations and were not doing anything which would have prompted the feds to step in.
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    06-25-2016, 08:35 PM
    Again, why should a steep drop off sign stop someone from putting his foot in the water? Not the same kind of danger even if you want to pretend it is. Steep drop offs don't jump out of the water. Gators do.
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    06-25-2016, 08:32 PM
    I'm still curious as to why you think this is an issue. I guess to you the words "steep drop off" means "If your feet touch the water you are likely to die." My brain isn't wired that way but perhaps yours is. I can walk with one foot on the sand and one foot in the water and be 100% safe even with a "steep drop off" some 10 feet or less into the water. Not so with a gator. Okay. That's a crocodile and since you seem so intent on being right you'll probably argue that's different somehow. Here's an alligator jumping into a canoe. Look! There was a sign warning of gators! How about that?
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    06-25-2016, 08:16 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Well good for them. Totally unnecessary and not authorized by the action taken by the law that decriminalized marijuana in Colorado. That law only addressed Colorado marijuana statutes. It didn't address federal drug laws. :rolleyes: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=DEA+raid+colorado Federal drug raids are still going on in Colorado. Edit: And looking at the stories of federal drug raids in Colorado, so far I don't see any cases of sheriffs standing down the feds. I do see cases of sheriffs joining in and helping with some of the raids. :( :mad:
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    06-25-2016, 07:59 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Nope. Not at all. You either don't understand what Colorado did WRT its drug laws or Civil War history or both.
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    06-25-2016, 07:57 PM
    Here's hoping Gary Johnson gets to 15%!
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    06-25-2016, 07:55 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    Colorado not enforcing federal drug didn't involve Colorado firing on the equivalent of Ft. Sumpter. :rolleyes:
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    06-25-2016, 07:52 PM
    Okay. Since this hypothetical is apparently soooo important to you I'll answer it. A sign that says "No swimming, steep drop off" is equivalent to a sign that says "No swimming, alligators." Seriously it is. Both signs not only say "No swimming", but they also specifically warn about the danger. I'm thinking you didn't think your analogy all way through. Now I guess you will say I'm "name calling"? Saying your argument is "irrelevant, incompetent and immaterial" is not name calling. I guess you didn't watch Perry Mason? Anyway, if you wanted to have a correct analogy you should have said "If I had a sign that said No swimming and I didn't warn about a drop off would people be just as upset?" I dunno. Maybe. But the better question is, if the reason you're putting up the "no swimming sign" is because you're worried about the drop off, why not warn about the drop off? Seriously, why do you have this problem with signs that give adequate warnings? Is it because such signs cost a little more money in paint? Regardless of the legal issues I would want anyone I was inviting on my property to be as warned about hidden dangers as possible. Pennies aren't a hidden danger. A drop off you can't see is. Alligators are a hidden danger. If I knew there was a gator on my property and I invited someone on my property and their child got eaten and I hadn't warned them about the gator I would feel like shit. Maybe you would sleep just fine at night but I wouldn't. If I was the one eaten by a gator that I didn't know about but the property owner knew about, it wouldn't bother me one bit if my family sued. (Well I'd be dead and I don't believe in ghosts but I did have a ghost that could hang around and communicate it would be high fiving my family).
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    06-25-2016, 07:37 PM
    Okay. Well I voted Ron both times in the primary and for the constitution party in the general. In 2008 I was happy to see McCain loose because I hated how he and others had treated Ron and I seriously was hoping that at the very least Obama would stop the wars even though my gut told me he wouldn't. (My gut was right). In 2012 I was less happy to see Romney lose. I despised Romney as much as McCain, but Obama had already started doing real damage and hadn't stopped any wars. (Okay. We had "left" Iraq, but not a day before the date Bush had negotiated us to leave.) Still it was good to be able to say to the stupid Romney supporters who voted for him because "He's the one that can beat Obama" that "I told you so!" Now I can't stand Trump for what he did to Rand Paul, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz. And some of the folks around here who were on the "trash Cruz" bandwagon, to the point of spreading national enquirer lies about the man, I will have a hard time forgiving regardless of what happens next. That was disgusting and unbecoming of the liberty movement. And because of how foul and evil such Trump supporters were, there is a part of me, albeit a small part, that would love to say "I told you so" if/when he gets his butt handed to him by Hillary. But then I'm torn because I know Hillary will be terrible for the country. Not torn enough to even think about voting for that jackass in the general election mind you, but torn still. That said, Trump undermining the second amendment (already flip flopped on it and I've yet to see him come back and "clarify" his no fly list statement to any satisfactory degree), and Trump's support for touchback amnesty will be enough "I told you so." I hope Trump doesn't undermine the 2nd amendment, but I hope he does do his "touchback amnesty" plan and, as is the obvious result, Latino immigration goes through the freaking roof! It's not so much that I want more Mexicans here. I could care less one way or another. But for so many Trump supporters this is sooooooo important to them, that when Trump finally betrays them on this, as he has already promised to do, their collective heads will explode. That will make all of this current pain totally worth it.
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    06-25-2016, 07:24 PM
    You know what? I didn't even bother reading the rest of your last post because it is irrelevant, incompetent and completely immaterial. We're not talking about choking on pennies or cliff diving or pit bulls or other dogs. We're talking about wild animals. And there is a legal standard for dealing with wild animals attacking on someone's property. It's called ferae naturae. And the standard is that if a wild animal attacks someone on your property you are not liable unless you have specific knowledge of the danger. If you do then you have a duty to try to ensure the safety of those you invite onto your property and/or warn them of the danger. If they already have equal knowledge of the danger than the duty is met even if you don't warn them or try to protect them. It's that simple. I think you're just trying to have the last word and you are not trying to have a serious discussion at this point. Fine. Have the last word. That doesn't in the least change the legal standard.
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    06-25-2016, 07:04 PM
    :rolleyes: Once again, please research ferae naturae because you clearly have no clue about what you are arguing. Presence was 100% correct in his assertion that in general it gives you great liability protection if a wild animal attacks someone on your property. That protection goes away if you know the wild animal is on your property. That protection comes back if the person injured also knows. That's the legal standard. Period. This ain't about swallowing pennies. It's not about dog bites. It's about dangerous wild animals. Here is the Georgia Court of Appeals decision on a similar case. http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ga-court-of-appeals/1560852.html We do not view the common law doctrine of animals ferae naturae, therefore, as requiring a departure from Georgia's general principles regarding a landowner's duty to exercise ordinary care in keeping its premises safe.12 To the extent the owners would have us carve out an exception under the doctrine of animals ferae naturae and find that an owner or occupier of land enjoys a blanket immunity from liability for any harm caused by a free wild animal on the owner's land, we decline to do so.13 Although a defendant may be entitled to summary judgment where, as in Williams v. Gibbs, there is no evidence that the owners should have anticipated the presence of the wild animal that injured the plaintiff, there is no issue in this case regarding whether the owners should have anticipated the presence of alligators in their lagoons. Rather, the evidence is undisputed that the owners had actual knowledge that alligators were commonly present throughout the lagoon system. Because the undisputed evidence does not establish as a matter of law that the owners could not reasonably foresee that their lagoons would encourage alligators that would constitute a menace to people using the adjacent common areas and golf courses, see Division 1, supra, the owners are not entitled to judgment as a matter of law under the doctrine of animals ferae naturae. And here is the Georgia Supreme Court overturning the case.
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    06-25-2016, 06:43 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread "Texit?" in U.S. Political News
    I never said anything about conquering the North or trying to take it over dimwit. A coup is a way to remove a head of state by force. One can have a coup and not "take over" the government. That happens all the time. A rebellion is a way to throw off an entire government you no longer agree with by force. You may or may not decide to try to take it over. The point, that's gone over your thick skull, is that the EU had a defined legal mechanism for Britain to leave just like the U.S. has a defined legal mechanism to remove a president. (Impeachment). I never said it was. Never said it wasn't. The point is that if you want to compare Brexit to Texit you need to specify what it the equivalent in the U.S. constitution to the provision in the Lisbon Treaty that will now be invoked to complete Britain's Brexit. Wrong rocks for brains. What Colorado is doing is perfectly legal. They repealed their drug laws. The federal anti drug laws are still in place but without the state and local governments enforcing state and local drug laws the federal drug laws are pretty much meaningless. It's local cops that bust the on the corner drug dealer or the person they pull over who smells like weed. It's well established that the Federal government can't force state governments to enforce federal law. If the feds want federal drug laws enforced they have to do that themselves. And they simply lack the manpower to do that for the average drug transaction.
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    06-25-2016, 06:32 PM
    It's sad that even on this forum most people have missed the point. The roots of Brexit go back not to concern over brown people or "mooselums" immigrating in but of money being siphoned out because of white socialist countries like Greece. By making this all about immigration people are letting the socialist failure of Europe off the hook.
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    06-25-2016, 06:27 PM
    We've had Muslims this country and in Europe for a long time. We did not have international Islamic terrorism until the United States under Jimmy Carter started arming Islamic radicals to overthrow the Soviet Union. The CIA went so far as to send textbooks to Afghanistan pushing Islamic radicalization. If radicalization was the "natural" state of Muslims than the CIA had no reason to send the books. Prior to the U.S. misadventure in Afghanistan, when Americans were captured by groups like the PLO they were routinely released. Think of the hijacking that was flown to Entebe. Even this latest shooting really wasn't about homosexuality. I know that's the popular theme pushed by the media. But if you saw the clip on Democracy Now where one of the victims was interviewed she said the killer told them when they were held hostage "I did the because the U.S. is bombing my country." His parents were from Afghanistan. Afghanistan images before and after U.S. interventionism by Jimmy Carter.
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    06-25-2016, 04:41 PM
    So Hillary went down (she was at 49%) and Trump went down further. I think Trump's baffling position on gun control hurt him. Saying he was open to banning guns for those on the no fly list hurt him with gun enthusiasts without helping him with the gun grabbers.
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    06-25-2016, 04:37 PM
    That same mother that wants you away from her nest could later get hungry. And if there are gator next to an inviting beach that in itself is a problem. Either the nest should be relocated or the beach. That's nice. But pennies don't just jump up into your throat. I don't think "beware of gators" next to a gator nesting area (using your argument of what this hissing was) is "idiotic." If you think that.....well believe what you want. But once again, on the legal standard for ferae naturae, pennies don't apply because they are neither natural nor animal. If you don't want to be liable for attacks by wild animals on property that you are inviting others on for commercial use, and you know that you have wild animals on your property that most reasonable people would consider dangerous, whether they are biting people or "hissing" at them or eating them, the way to avoid liability is to warn them. I would do that whether or not there was legal liability. I wouldn't warn people about pennies. And under the legal standard even if these pennies could be thought of as "wild animals", if the people knew the pennies were there, not merely that they might be there because "pennies are everywhere", I still wouldn't be liable.
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    06-25-2016, 04:27 PM
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    LOL. Okay, here's the difference. The Libson treaty included mechanism for secession. The U.S. constitution didn't. Yeah I've heard the "10th amendment means we can" argument. Okay. Andrew Jackson, a president often revered by liberty folks for his stand against the national bank, begged to differ. (As in "I regret not hanging my VP John Calhoun and all of the rest of the secessionists.") Now, what difference does that all make? Simple. Let's take impeachment. We have a mechanism to remove the president. Sure, it's never been successfully followed through, though the votes were there to oust Nixon, but it's there. So no constitutional crisis if it's put into place. If it wasn't, and a group of people said "We don't want you as president anymore" then there would be nothing left to do but a coup. Well a coup against the U.S. government was tried. It was the civil war. It didn't succeed. (And personally I think Jeff Davis and company were a bunch of wankers and I don't care who disagrees with me on that.) So what's left? If there's no mechanism for secession in the constitution....you can change the constitution. Mark Levin et al (and I don't trust them) are pushing for an article 5 convention of the states. Well in that convention a "secession amendment" could be added. Or the new constitution could be ratified to just leave out Texas and anyone else that doesn't want to be part of the U.S. Of course...the real rub is this. Will getting rid of the United States end tyranny? Do reindeer fly around the world on the 25th of December? Yeah, maybe a quarter of Americans are for secession. How many are for ending the drug war? A solid majority. http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2014/04/new-pew-poll-confirms-americans-ready-end-war-drugs
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    06-25-2016, 04:06 PM
    That's nice. From the legal perspective an assault is "Something that puts someone in reasonable fear of imminent physical contact that is harmful or offensive." While alligators can't be charged under assault, alligator posturing, from a legal perspective, counts as an attack. Disney was on notice that the gators were chasing kids. Whether they wanted to eat them or toss them around like beach balls doesn't matter. Disney should have done more than what they did. Putting up a sign would have cured the liability. They didn't put up the signs so they are liable. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Great. So Disney's liable. /thread. Because the case law that I was going back and for with presence earlier says it's enough. Seriously. He claimed that as long as the animals are wild there is no liability. I found a case where an appeals court in Georgia held a resort liable for a woman being eaten by a gator because the resort knew about the gators on the property. He found the Georgia Supreme Court overruled the appeals court. I pointed out that the reason the Supreme Court overruled the court of appeals was that there was undisputed testimony that the woman that got eaten knew about the gators.
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    06-25-2016, 03:38 PM
    Okay. I hadn't noticed that. Toche'.
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    06-25-2016, 03:12 PM
    :rolleyes: I can't wait to rub it in your face when president Trump implements his touchback amnesty plan and uses the power of imminent domain to steal your land and give it to foreign land developers.
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    06-25-2016, 03:10 PM
    And when Ron Paul attacks Trump for many of the same reasons people here attack Trump is that "garbage" too? Donald Trump was the NWO hedging its bets. Bill Clinton asked Donald Trump to run for office. Rand Paul, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz all would have been better than Trump. And they all would have stood a better chance at beating Hillary. But we're stuck with who we're stuck with. That doesn't mean everyone should be happy about it.
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    06-25-2016, 03:05 PM
    Except I never said Sunday is the Lord's day and neither does the Bible. Specifically calling Sunday the Lord's Day came later in church tradition. That said, it is an indisputable fact that the apostles called the Jewish Sabbath "the Sabbath." And I actually have a "proof text." Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. So we know that this was the Jewish Sabbath due to the reference to the synagogue since that's when the Jews went to synagogue. And note, this would be a perfect time for the apostles to say "Why don't you just come to church with us tomorrow because that's the new Christian Sabbath?" They didn't, because it wasn't. And just so there is no confusion, this is what Paul said to the Jews when he preached to them in that same chapter. 27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him. Now, what happened the next Sabbath?
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    06-25-2016, 02:55 PM
    You know it's interesting. Going from the Bible...... Abraham was married to his half sister and took on a sex slave. He'd be in jail in most states just on the incest alone. Jacob was married to two sisters. Not sure what that does for incest but he'd be in jail in most states for bigamy. The prophet Samuel's dad had two wives. He'd be in jail for bigamy. David would be in jail for polygamy.
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    06-25-2016, 02:47 PM
    :rolleyes: No. There were multiple attacks. Please read: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/treating-hungry-alligators-kid-gloves/ After the two-year-old boy was killed by a gator at Disney last week a San Diego father who had vacationed there was interviewed by the media and said that he snatched his own young son up after seeing TWO gators racing toward the child at the resort. The environmentalist-in-chief at the resort told him that those gators were “pets” and would not bother anyone. The father was a tad skeptical. One wonders if SHE would have left HER two-year-old son standing there to play with her pet alligators. Now maybe you only count an attack if it "results in an injury." But from a legal point of view a gator chasing a child counts as an attack. You're great at grammar. Not so much at legal analysis. The legal analysis on wild animal attacks is quite simple. * If you have no knowledge of dangerous wild animals being on your property then you aren't liable if they attack someone you invited on your property. * If you do have knowledge of dangerous wild animals being on your property the you are liable unless the people coming on your property have actual knowledge of the dangerous wild animals being there.
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    06-25-2016, 02:37 PM
    I'm still waiting for you to explain how rape = seduction in your worldview so I'm not expecting much in the way of logic from you. But no. You cannot demonstrate from "good and necessary consequence" that sunday is the Christian Sabbath. The apostles preached on the Jewish Sabbath to Jews on Gentiles on multiple occasions. They knew which day the Sabbath was and it was not Sunday.
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    06-25-2016, 02:34 PM
    Ah if only Bernie Sanders had been a libertarian there would still be someone challenging Donald Trump. (Had to find some reason to post something in this otherwise totally irrelevant zombie thread.)
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