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  • devil21's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:12 PM
    No, you're right, because they don't need to. We have nice guys like Wilbur Ross, Steve Mnuchin and others to make sure it never gets to the point where a creditor like China has to forcibly seize American assets. Hence why this thread exists and my original post in it. Awww, that's cute. Posting info from similarly ignorant sources. Honestly, do you think any mainstream publication, even if they knew how the debt creation bond system actually works, would publish it for mass consumption??
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  • devil21's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:34 PM
    Deflection. Obviously a "bond" being issued means someone is on the hook for the bond, thus placed in bondage. Who is on the hook for Treasury bonds? Simple question. Gee, I seemed to have misplaced the online link to the internal Treasury and Federal Reserve operations manuals. Maybe you could provide for us? Birth certificates are turned over to the state SecStates, who then turn the names into corporate entities for use in commerce. The ALL CAPS NAME on the ID, tax bills, etc. Same as how all businesses in a state are registered with the SecState. Then, SecState turns a copy of the BC over to the US Commerce Department. The SecState is the liaison between the state government and the federal government but they'll NEVER speak publicly about that part of their office's job (and how they use it also for state and local debt issuance). Commerce Dept hands a copy over to the Treasury Dept. Treasury Dept then determines what the "value" of the future brainwashed slave is and how much future tax revenue the slave is likely to produce, according to actuarial tables. It's no different than insurance risk actuarial tables. Treasury then bundles up those particular slaves into various Treasury issues and sells them to buyers with a guarantee of future payments from tax revenues from the slaves. When buyers start to question the viability of those future tax revenues (again, it's the same as MBS process), they stop buying, then the primary dealers end up with most of the bonds and if it starts getting real bad, the Fed does QE and buys them.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:43 AM
    I recall Iceland specifically jailing bankers. I'm sure that makes a tad bit of difference to the outcome. Look, keep claiming there's no security in Treasuries but I know that's not that case. Even talked about it with a state Secretary of State candidate a few years ago. They are integral to the process of creating the foundation that eventually becomes the Treasury issue. Answer my question about who is in bondage when a Treasury BOND is issued.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:34 AM
    I don't know, I'm not talking about Russia or Iceland, since neither issued the global reserve currency that was tied to their bonds. Gee....that word 'bond'. Kinda sounds like the word 'bondage', no? Who is in bondage when a bond is issued? Trump?
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  • devil21's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:49 AM
    If you are a country of 1.4 billion people, yes you can demand that statue. And you'd probably get it too. What you fail to understand (or admit) is that no one owns anything in this country (commoners can not own, only rent and use) and therefore any and all of it can be seized for the benefit of the creditors when they foreclose. It's easier for you to obfuscate than for me to explain the entire process that makes up what ultimately ends being the "Treasury" so I won't bother. It's a long line of trickery full of pledges, promises, securitizations. Yes, Treasuries are backed by the ability to tax you and take everything you possess. That means your literal ass, since it is your literal ass that earns the tax money and acquires the possessions that can be seized if the taxation part doesn't work out as planned.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:03 AM
    LOL, do you ever get tired of lying about what backs Treasuries? Guess what backs Treasuries? YOUR LITERAL ASS, EVERYTHING YOU POSSESS AND CREATE AND THE RESOURCES OF THE LAND MASS ITSELF. Treasuries are bundled up future promises to extract taxes and assets from the securitized, via birth certificate trickery, slaves and give those proceeds to the Treasury holders. If necessary, resources are given instead once the future taxability of the slaves comes into question (like now). Treasury auctions are nothing more than modern slave auctions and Treasuries are nothing more than bundled MBS securities but with people being bundled instead of mortgages.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-20-2018, 08:37 PM
    Piggybacking off my previous post: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-20/turkey-repatriates-all-gold-us-attempt-ditch-dollar Synopsis- Turkey repatriates all gold from US, ditching dollar, some of the gold ends up at BIS. Erdogan advocates for gold backed currencies instead of dollar.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-20-2018, 08:32 PM
    China means collecting on the resources (oil, gold, etc) they were promised as part of playing the Treasury debt/petrodollar recycling game. Creditors always collect the collateral eventually.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-20-2018, 08:26 PM
    Who exactly is this 'Jack Posobiec' fella I see quoted so much? Seems like he came out of nowhere to become a voice of the Trumptards. Oh, nevermind. He's naval intelligence. Makes sense. Kinda funny to quote deep staters as if they're voices against the deep state.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-20-2018, 08:32 AM
    There remains a fundamental misunderstanding about who the intelligence and federal law enforcement services work for in this country, particularly at the leadership levels. This is still a British colony. They lost it by violence (Revolutionary War) but regained it through BANKING. The revelations that the FBI and CIA (closely assisted by LONDON based intelligence) were surveilling Presidential campaigns shouldn't be a surprise in that context. Guess who the President would be working for? Presidents are selected, not elected, so how does the ruling class decide which candidate to choose if they can't surveil and implant moles into the campaigns? Once one accepts this is the truth, many other things start to make a lot more sense. I've had the line in my sig for many years about who runs this joint. Relevant side note, given yesterday's royal wedding. Why does everything the British Royal family does, particularly babies and marriages and the like, get such wide coverage in AMERICAN media, as if we were still part of the British colonies? Because we still are and millions still worship the royals like good subjects do, albeit unknowingly.
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    05-19-2018, 10:43 AM
    $8280
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    05-19-2018, 10:40 AM
    The mission of mainstreaming cryptocurrency/fully digital 'cash' and blockchain into public consciousness is accomplished and those that helped have had ample opportunity to claim their Lambos and get out.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-18-2018, 03:45 PM
    Or Israel? edit: It is missing the blue stripes though. Looks like Japan after closer examination. Japan is the 'rising sun'. Sun worship. Many Freemason lodges named 'Rising Sun Lodge #XXX'. All of the symbols are of significance to secret societies. Cthulhu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_of_Cthulhu Maltese Cross (Knights of Malta)
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    05-18-2018, 12:11 PM
    997190886009245696 lol 997529964600811526
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  • Brett85's Avatar
    05-17-2018, 08:12 PM
    I forgot that Thomas Massie used to post here.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-17-2018, 10:36 AM
    His plan to expand SCOTUS to 15 justices was rejected. His ability to stack the court with New Deal sympathizers obviously did not fail. He was the only 4 term President so he was given an extra ability to appoint more justices than any other President would have been able to. He appointed 8 of the 9!
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  • Brett85's Avatar
    05-17-2018, 07:17 AM
    I don't either, but I'm just forcing myself to do it anyway.
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  • GunnyFreedom's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 11:49 PM
    Murkowski. lol. I bet Joe Miller is looking a lot better now.
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  • Brett85's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 09:02 PM
    Fair enough. Is anyone else on this forum running for office?
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  • Brett85's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 07:19 PM
    Really, it's more productive for people to just run for office themselves than to just criticize. How many people on this forum have actually run for office? Me and Gunny? Why is that? Why can't Danno run for office where he lives? For county commissioner, for the state legislature, state senate, etc? Sure, there are people on this forum who are more pure or more hardcore libertarian than I am, so why don't they run for office and promote the cause of liberty?
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  • Brett85's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 07:11 PM
    Also, you guys should run for office yourselves if you think I'm not libertarian enough. That's what I don't understand about libertarians. They criticize other libertarians for not being pure enough but never actually step up and run for office themselves.
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  • Brett85's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 07:06 PM
    A Ted Cruz supporter? I voted for him after Rand dropped out of the race, because I felt he was better than Trump. He's far from perfect though. The Ted Cruz back in 2013 was far better than today's Ted Cruz. He tried to get the support of the liberty movement back then but has drifted away, supporting bills that infringe on civil liberties and voting for a budget busting spending bill a few months ago.
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    05-16-2018, 05:56 PM
    For those of you who are on Facebook, I created a Facebook page for my campaign. I'm trying to get as many "likes" as possible, so I'd appreciate it if you guys could "like" my page. https://www.facebook.com/Brett-Fairchild-for-State-Representative-2053033371620247/?modal=admin_todo_tour
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 11:08 AM
    ^^^^ Now that's a hell of an idea, if one can finagle it within the legal framework of the jurisdiction. Park your Budbus along side any food truck rally...
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-16-2018, 11:04 AM
    Or is it just kabuki theater for the masses?
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  • GunnyFreedom's Avatar
    05-15-2018, 06:56 PM
    Watched both videos. the dirt parts had me white knuckling my chair. lol
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  • GunnyFreedom's Avatar
    05-15-2018, 06:45 PM
    Am I weird because i understood the navigator?
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-15-2018, 11:14 AM
    I expect this to pass and start a new paradigm back toward asset backed currencies. Anything Switzerland undertakes in a banking sense should be watched closely since the central bank of central banks, the Bank for International Settlements, is based there. It's also why Switzerland is always neutral during wars. Both sides of wars are funded by the BIS. Ya can't go taking sides when you're funding both of them...
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-14-2018, 12:32 PM
    Funny how dannno is always absent from these sorts of threads.
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  • devil21's Avatar
    05-14-2018, 10:40 AM
    It's in line with my thread today about SCOTUS and legalizing sports gambling under 10th Amendment. Like or hate CA's mandate, the legislature is free to do it under the 10th and if a CA resident doesn't want to be involved they can move to another state. Or at least until a similar mandate works through each state legislature. People are free to have opinions on state laws but it is how the Constitution was designed to operate. I can't complain too much about the 10th being used as it was intended. (Side note: the house being mandated for solar panels isn't your house, any way. You don't own it. You only rent it. And you agreed to it when you "bought' it. The government owns it hence why the government can dictate what is done to it.)
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