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    08-19-2017, 06:48 AM
    Stop lying, Rev. Trump never said that. You are attempting to use Saul Alinsky tactics on the members of this forum. I have no idea why you have been permitted this long to continue.
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    08-18-2017, 08:41 PM
    Spoken by our resident commie.
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    08-18-2017, 04:22 AM
    Hey rev. Those advocating for world government, such as yourself, do not fit in the libertarian slot.
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    08-17-2017, 06:46 AM
    To mis-quote FrankRep, the alt-right "Did it to themselves." Explain this to me. As Antifederalist can attest, I'm always pointing out how when police molest, beat or murder white people, white people generally don't do squat. In fact when a which couple recently saw the police taser their son to death in front of them, they went and hired a black lawyer. I would have had some respect for David Duke if he had led a mass protest after a Somali immigrant murdered a white Aussie woman. But instead....they mass protest....over a damn statue? Like....really?
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    08-17-2017, 06:33 AM
    Hmmmm.....nobody, black or white, is defending Bill Cosby for rape charges even though 1) at least one of women accusing him was proven to be a liar because she claimed she met him at a Playboy Mansion party when the guest list shows he wasn't there and 2) his only trial has ended in a hung jury. After that trial I heard the jackasses on Fox News say "Mr. Cosby you are guilty in the court of public opinion because 40 women couldn't all be lying." Well...over 40 women have accused both Donald Trump and Bill Clinton of rape and/or sexual assault. And Donald Trump and Bill Clinton were both personal friends of now convicted sex slaver/pedophile Jeffery Epstein and yet there are millions upon millions of whites who support Donald Trump and/or Bill Clinton. Explain that to me please?
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    08-17-2017, 06:27 AM
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.
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    08-17-2017, 06:26 AM
    What criminal record did Tamir Rice have? In case you have forgotten he was the 13 year old black kid who got killed because some witch (replace w with b) who should have minded her own business called 911 and said he had what might have been a toy gun and then another witch (again use proper letter substitution) who was an 911 operator turned "It may be a toy gun" to "There is an active shooter?" What criminal record did Philado Castile have when he was murdered by cop? Oh yeah, that's right, AS A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT HOLDER HE COULDN'T HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD! Hey, how did you feel about the Aussie woman who got gunned down by the police after calling the police to report a suspected rape in progress? Are you going to investigate to see if she had a criminal record?
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    08-17-2017, 06:19 AM
    You don't understand. Donald Trump is secretly playing infinity-D chess and this is all a ruse to bring freedumb to Venezuela through non-interventionism just like asset forfeiture is a secret plan to advance libertarian ideals by......screw it. The cognitive dissonance it takes to be a Trump supporter hurts my head too much.
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    08-17-2017, 06:11 AM
    Kentucky never left. There were other "border states" that never seceded. And they sent troops into the "Deep South." The emancipation proclamation was carefully crafted to avoid freeing slaves in the border states. But if you were like my great great grandfather, you got your freedom papers signed by Lincoln himself in reward for fighting against the Confederacy. Lincoln tried to pass compensated emancipation with the border states but they were too greedy for money they didn't deserve. Ultimately all of those slaves were freed when the war ended and the 13th amendment was ratified. God willed slavery to end and He willed for a bloody civil war to be the way it ended.
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    08-17-2017, 06:06 AM
    Communism ended? Apparently nobody told the North Koreans....or the Chinese....or the Cubans. Oh yeah, and slavery is alive and well in North Korea and China. In fact it's alive and well in the U.S. in the form of the prison industrial complex. Oh but you may counter "But China isn't pure communist." The Soviet Union wasn't "pure communist" either. And if you've read animal farm you known that the end goal is for the pigs to look like the humans and the humans look like the pigs. (Communists take on aspects of capitalism and capitalists take on aspects of communism/socialism and the rest of the animals still get screwed by both sides.) Looks like the plan is right on track to me. Tell me what I'm missing? Seriously give me some hope here. I want to be wrong. Yes, the U.K. abolished slavery in 1833 and did so without war. They were able to do that because slavery was not a regional issue like it was in the United States. There were not "slave" and "free" areas of the United Kingdom. Thus parliament did not have "slave" and "free" factions the was the United States did. So the takeaway? If Britain had finished the job in 1812 or won in 1776, slavery would have ended sooner in what is now the United States sooner as well. I guess I should adopt the position of libertarian billionaire Peter Schiff that the U.S. would have been better off if we had lost the revolutionary war? (See: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/archive/index.php/t-205338.html?) Certainly in other British colonies the problem of racism is not nearly as pronounced. In fact in 1812 the British offered freedom to any slave who joined with them against the United States. That was the cause for the now "lost verse" of the Star Spangled Banner. And people wonder why Colin Kaeprinick didn't stand or why Gabby Douglas didn't put her hand over her heart for the national anthem? (See: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2016/09/27/commentary/world-commentary/no-refuge-save-hireling-slave/#.WZWCwVWGOUk) Of course Merika only came down hard on the man (Colin) and largely ignored the woman, cute little Gabby Douglas. It's much more politically correct to beat a man down economically for standing up for what he believes in than to beat down a woman. Anyway, slavery ended in the U.S. because God willed it to and it ended in a bloody civil war because God willed that as well. The civil war was God's punishment on the South for slavery and God's punishment on the North for allowing it. That's why it was one of the bloodiest wars in history on both sides. In God's economy, blood atones for sin. The North should have won the war quickly and easily, but God wouldn't allow that to happen until Lincoln reluctantly signed the emancipation proclamation. Then all sorts of "bad luck" (God's judgment) happened to the south, like the South's best General, Stonewall Jackson, getting accidentally shot by his own men. Explain that one outside of the hand of God? And here's one of the few places I disagree with Ron Paul. He talks about how slavery could have ended to compensated emancipation. Well....Lincoln tried that with the border states (the slave states that didn't secede), but he couldn't get the plan through congress. The greedy slave owners wanted more money than was being offered and the non slave states didn't want to give them jack for something morally they should have done on their own without being paid. The Egyptians didn't get paid when the Hebrews left Egypt. Quite the contrary, they paid the Hebrews. And then some of the Egyptians decided they wanted to get their money and slaves back and got drowned in the Red Sea. "Be not deceived, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap." Here is the only way that I can think of that under the U.S. system slavery could have ended without war. Taxing people who didn't own slaves to pay for the compensated emancipation of people who did own slaves is immoral. Sure it's...
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    08-17-2017, 05:09 AM
    The Nazis were right about certain things as I pointed out. In fact when Stalin invaded Finland, which at the time had and still does have a representative form of government, it was the Nazis that came to Finland's aid in what is now known as the Winter War. Sieg Heil!
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    08-16-2017, 11:17 PM
    Thanks for the comments and the +rep. For the record I'm not saying slavery would have ended anyway. You have far more faith, apparently, than I do in the ability of people who think they are getting a free lunch to realize they are actually cutting their own throats. Let me put it to you another way. Do you think welfare is going to just end on its own? It's just as counter productive to the people that are on it as slavery was to the south.
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    08-16-2017, 11:08 PM
    Okay. Here's what we probably agree on. This is just a damn distraction. Tearing down statues is symbolic crap that changes nothing for anybody. Unless they're going to melt down the metal and use it to pay down the deficit who cares? The BLM movement is stupid. It masks the issue of police brutality against everybody and makes it solely about race. That Aussie woman that was gunned down by a black copy is just as much a victim of police brutality as the black concealed carry holder that was gunned down by a Hispanic cop or Tamir Rice, the black kid with the BB gun, who was gunned down by two white cops. I want real freedom. Not black freedom. Not white freedom. Real freedom. Don't think I'll get it until Jesus comes though.
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    08-16-2017, 11:02 PM
    What's the justification for the southern "means" or "ends"? :rolleyes: right back at you. The Southern states were hypocrites that didn't believe in the right of secession of actual libertarian groups that didn't want to be part of the confederacy. The Southern states first instituted the draft, enslaving poor whites to fight in a rich mans war, then turned around and exempted slave owners from fighting. Note they didn't just exempt rich people! They only exempted slave owners! So if you were rich but had a conscience and didn't own slaves you were still subject to the draft! Where is the morality in that? Again, explain to me why I should be against neo-Nazis but complacent with southern apologists? What did the Nazis ever to do me or anyone like me? Sieg Heil!
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    08-16-2017, 10:59 PM
    No. I am informed. You are not. I'm going to try to make it a point not to argue with ignorant people. The documentation is out there for anyone who wants to know the truth. The South seceded because they wanted to protect slavery. They said that's why they were seceding. And before any blood was shed on "Southern soil", Southern pro slavery terrorists shed blood in "bloody Kansas." And if the South gave a crap about liberty, when people in the South wanted to secede from the South, the southern states tried to put down their secession with violence. I pointed that out to you in my last post and instead of addressing it like an adult, you decided to become a child and resort to name calling. That proves that you have lost the argument.
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    08-16-2017, 10:55 PM
    I think it's a distinction that makes no freaking difference at all. The south could have legitimately seceded when southern slave owner Andrew Jackson was president and the only thing on the table was tariffs. But they ran like cowardly dogs when Jackson threatened to hang the secessionists. Then, when tariffs were at record lows, but slavery was threatened by an anti slavery party taking over the presidency, then they seceded. And when parts of the south decided they wanted no part of the confederacy their right to secede was not respected. Again, watch the "Free State of Jones." That was a libertarian state that was created by poor whites who joined up with escaped slaves to form what is probably the only libertarian county to ever exist in the United States of America. No slavery was allowed and no taxes either. Each person kept what he grew himself. People voluntarily banded together for the common defense. And they kicked the confederates asses. That is the kind of insurrection that libertarians should support. But I bet you never even heard of it. I know I didn't until I saw the movie. I'll be honest. I have more respect for neo-Nazis. What did a Nazi ever do to me? Black soldiers and airmen that were captured by the Nazis were treated better than they were by the U.S. Army. Back in high school I had to just suck it up and ignore all of the confederate hats and belt buckles and whatnot. I ignored stupid comments like "I know it would have been bad for you Drake but we could have won the civil war if..." No idiot. It would have been bad for all of us. The south would have remained the ignorant, non-industrialized, agrarian backwater that it was before the civil war. That's why the South lost the Civil War. The North ultimately out produced the South. The outcome was inevitable. It's just like U.S. industrialization out performed German and Japanese industrialization in World War II. In high school as a computer geek I hung out in the computer lab all the time. One day I saw this kid drawing a swastika using computer graphics. I was like "Why the hell are you doing that?" He was like "I'm German. This is my German heritage." I started to respond, then I thought about it. I had excused the confederate flag as "southern hertitage" and I was going to bust a gut over the swastika? What the hell for? Nazis never did anything to me or mine. I watched a documentary on "Bo Jangles" Jackson the other day. It was starring Gregory Hines. He showed the absolute brillance of that man. Bo Jangles had been regulated to crappy "step-in-fetch-it" roles his entire life just because he was black. He basically made Shirley Temple's career. And, to give southerner's some credit, he did get better treatment in Vaudville than he did in Hollywood. Oh...but World War II came, the U.S. was getting its ass kicked, "Tokyo Rose" was broadcasting to black GIs "Why are you fighting us for the U.S. when we aren't mistreating you like they are." To get blacks behind the war effort, the U.S. War Department asked Bo Jangles and other black performers to make a film blacks could be proud of and Stormy Weather was the result. So again, why am I supposed to be angry at the neo-Nazis but sympathetic to the neo-confederates? The South is still but hurt over a war that's end result brought it undreamed of economic prosperity. Slavery just doesn't work inside factories. Far too much can go wrong. You take a screw off a plow and maybe it breaks and the slaves get a day off and can go swimming. You take a screw off a foundry and the whole thing could fall over, men could die and the entire factory could be destroyed. The South needed slavery to end but they were just too stupid to realize it. And once slavery ended and the South industrialized, all of a sudden tarriffs became a non issue too. Many a confederate had wearing southerner who today works in a factor wants Donald Trump to do something about our...
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    08-16-2017, 10:19 PM
    The bastards in the south instituted the draft first. And they started the damn war. The south was much worse than the north. That's why sections of the south seceded from the confederacy. Again, watch the "Free State of Jones" and educate yourself. I've lived in the south my whole damn life so I'm talking from experience and not "yankee ignorance." Southern planters didn't give a damn about the white dirt farmers they either suckered or forced at gun point to fight for their immoral and illegitimate cause. Hell, go back to before the civil war and read about the case of negro Will. He was a black slave who had invented a new hoe. (Farming implement, not street walker). The white overseer demanded Will let another slave use his hoe. Will was like "Screw you! This is my hoe!" The overseer fought Will and Will kicked his ass so bad that he died. Guess who paid for Will's defense? The plantation owner. Why? Because as property, Will was worth more than the overseer. Will got off. Later Will killed another slave. Guess what happened then? Then owner hung Will. Why? Because Will destroyed his property. Southerners who didn't own slaves were nothing but the hoes (as in street walkers) for the southerners who did own slaves. Once the south lost the civil war economic prosperity in the form of manufacturing and agricultural diversity came to the south and everyone was better off. Losing the civil war was the best thing that could have happened to the south. The south was brought into the industrial age kicking and screaming but the it found out "Hey...this ain't so bad after all." It's kind of like Japan's economy taking off after losing World War II.
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    08-16-2017, 10:10 PM
    ^This. Guns and Roses had the right idea. What we've got here is..failure to communicate... So men you just can't reach. So you get what he last week. Which is the way he wants it. So he gets it. I don't like it anymore than you.
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    08-16-2017, 10:05 PM
    You do understand that the confederates enslaved poor white farmers by instituting a draft and then exempting slave owners from the draft right? The confederacy was about as anti liberty as you can get. Watch "The Free State of Jones" if you want to really be informed.
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    08-16-2017, 09:55 PM
    Steve Bannon is not an Israel firster. Therefore he must be anti-semetic even though they can't prove it. Remember when Ben Stein accused Ron Paul of being anti-semetic for having the audacity to have an open mind about the Israeli/Palestinian problem?
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    08-16-2017, 09:10 PM
    Mark Levin called Trump a populist which is basically the same thing. Of course this is back when Levin's golden boy Ted Cruz was still in the race. Levin was silent on Trump's faults until Rand Paul dropped out. https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/populism-nationalism-and-americanism THE NIXON PERIOD Moving into the Nixon period: We had wage and price controls that were set in place in 1971 to try to attack inflation. But what did wage and price controls do? Terrible dislocation of markets. And when the controls were lifted, of course, they spun out of control. Massive spending and massive redistribution of wealth. Now Donald Trump is proposing $1 trillion in infrastructure spending — twice as much as Hillary Clinton did. They insist this is going to create jobs for the middle class and union workers and so forth. How many more times are we going to do this? How many more times are we going to take money out of the private sector to fund some mastermind's idea about how to create jobs?The great power of the American economy was not created by government or tariffs or protectionism or progressivism or populism or nationalism. It was created by Americanism, by Americans.
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    08-16-2017, 09:03 PM
    This idea that Bannon is a racist is the biggest load of crap ever put out. From the ADL's on hit piece trying to paint Bannon as a racist. hxxps://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know 5. WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY ANTI-SEMITIC STATEMENTS FROM BANNON. While there is a pattern of evidence that Breitbart served as a platform for a wide range of bigotry and there is some controversy related to statements from Mr. Bannon’s divorce proceedings in 2007, we are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements made by Bannon himself. In fact, Jewish employees of Breitbart have challenged the characterization of him and defended him from charges of anti-Semitism. Some have pointed out that Breitbart Jerusalem was launched during his tenure. Nevertheless, Bannon essentially has established himself as the chief curator for the alt right. Under his stewardship, Breitbart has emerged as the leading source for the extreme views of a vocal minority who peddle bigotry and promote hate. RELATED TO THIS RESOURCE PRESS RELEASE
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    08-16-2017, 08:56 PM
    Well....technically I would rather a drone fire a sniper rifle than a hellfire missile. Less risk of collateral damage. That said, that looks buildable as a weekend DIY project.
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    08-16-2017, 08:52 PM
    I see you totally ignored my point about Jeff Sessions and asset forfeiture. That's probably because you know that I'm right and that my point about Jeff Sessions destroys your whole argument. Attacks on liberty come from both parties. But since you seem to be solely concerned about welfare and socialism I assume that means you support H1B visas? Those immigrants are, by definition, coming for high end jobs as opposed to welfare.
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    08-16-2017, 08:50 PM
    Very clever. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to helmuth_hubener again. Most immigrant groups diversify in their voting patters over time. Take the Irish for instance. No guarantee on them voting Democrat these days.
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    08-14-2017, 08:23 AM
    Did you not read my entire post that you quoted? Edit: Okay. I see the argument being made. I guess this guy thought the crowd was going to part and let him go through and when it didn't he decided he didn't want to be Reginald Denny? Oh, and he's active duty military. This probably explains why he was charged with 2nd degree murder and not first degree. I heard on Fox News last night that they were claiming there were "white supremacists" along the road telling him which way to turn and urging him on. That seems to be bullsh*t. Just judging by the video the street that he was on was not crowded until the end of it where things got out of hand. Rather than trying to press through, the smart thing to do would have been to stop further back and wait for the crowd to disperse or back up and try to go another way. Of course not being smart does not equal first degree murder. And again, we're just going from a very short clip that doesn't show much. Also there are reports that he was on psych meds which totally changes everything.
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    08-14-2017, 08:19 AM
    They as in "Google?" I'm not concerned about whether Google is being free market or not. I'm talking about the conservative vloggers who are getting censored finding a free market solution to their problem.
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    08-14-2017, 08:18 AM
    Okay. But I'm not seeing your video. :confused: I just checked again and I still don't see it. I'm using Google Chrome on Windows 10.
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    08-14-2017, 08:16 AM
    If all you know about the Black Panthers is what you read on Wikipedia then you are woefully misinformed. Again, a racist black group would not meet with a group of whites known as "the young patriots" to talk about how they had common ground from police brutality and oppression. And as for the backpack, you understand that's the comic book character right? Well..maybe you don't. But it's the comic book character. I hope that people who mistake comic book characters for reality are struck from the jury pool.
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    08-14-2017, 08:11 AM
    So anarchists praise people like David Duke as "European civil rights activists?" :confused: https://blog.therightstuff.biz/2017/07/20/book-review-dr-david-dukes-the-secret-behind-communism/
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