kluge began as kludge here and dropped a "d" rand is ron's son. rand's forum arrived after ron's. the mods forgave him his merrie wit. minors have parental controls on their tv sets + computers so... i had to think of the old remark now that i am indeed hoping rand runs sometime before 2028 for potus!!!! some of the threads about what rand may do have gone into hot topics and i think kluge is quotable!!!
I meant to give that to someone else :/
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