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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:19 PM
    It almost sounds like you're saying God is OK with this fallen world. I disagree. Yes, we live in a fallen world, but as Christians, we are supposed to want and aim for God's perfect will, on earth as it is in heaven. Jesus taught us to pray for that. "This, then, is how you should pray: ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done,
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    Yesterday, 10:09 PM
    Actually, even on the small farms the baby calfs are taken away from the mothers on day one or day two of their life. That is cruel to both the mother and the baby. IMO there's something deeply wrong – evil, even – with stealing a baby from his mother and denying that baby both the nurturing and milk that was intended for him.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:01 PM
    I like how you failed to mention that in the beginning, both humans and animals were herbivores. Danke specifically asked why God created predators, the correct answer was God did not create predators. That came after the fall, as a result of everything changing in the world. There is also a belief that the fallen angels, as mentioned in Genesis 6, intermingled not only with humans but with the animals, and produced certain types of animals that did not exist in the very beginning. Whether that is true or not, one thing is for sure… Genesis 1:30 clearly states that even the animals were herbivores in the beginning. In the end, it will go back to that: The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear,
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:55 PM
    God did not create predators. In the very beginning, in the garden of Eden, both humans and animals were herbivores. Things like death, violence, animals killing animals and all that didn't happen until after the fall, when everything changed. You may not be a Christian, but just to make this perfectly clear, I'll post the verse: Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. Genesis 1: 29-30
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:38 PM
    You're limiting this to the health aspect of it only. You said that there are "healthy meats" that don't come from factory farms, and I made the point that even the so-called "humane" free-range animals still end up with their throats slit, chopped into pieces. There's nothing humane about violently taking the life of an innocent being who wants to live. So it is a false comparison to compare sentient animals who screamed for their life, to a tomato or carrot. Listen to yourself. You ignore God's original design as stated in Genesis 1. You ignore God's ultimate will, the restoration of the peace that existed in the beginning, as stated in Isaiah and other prophetic verses. You ignore all the commands to be merciful, gentle, loving, kind and selfless…… and what do you focus on? Some questionable verses that were written about the Israelites at that time, thousands of years ago, verses that are not even applicable today, as we don't sacrifice animals to atone for sin, Jesus is the sacrifice, the Lamb of God. So you bring up those animal sacrifices as a way to somehow justify eating meat today? Why do you ignore all of these verses: “For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.” Hosea 6:6
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  • DamianTV's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:29 PM
    Balls chopped off and Lobotomized!
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:22 PM
    That is simply not true. Dairy milk has been steadily declining for years, and nondairy milk sales are soaring. I think the reason for that is because of the popularity of the Internet, you can no longer hide what is going on. Who wants to drink the secretions of an abused, exploited animal that is pumped with antibiotics, and often has infections which means the milk you drink has a certain amount of pus in it? (And that is legally allowed.) Enjoy:
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:10 PM
    What if some women are willing to sell their breast milk for other humans to drink? How would it be it wrong if it is consensual? If that's the case, do you think it would be weird? I underlined part of your last sentence above, because that's just it… They are not treated well. First the cows are artificially impregnated, they have to be kept perpetually pregnant, in order to continually produce milk. Then after carrying their baby for nine months, the calf is born, and the mother/baby bond is broken as the calf is torn away from the mother, usually on Day One of life. That is traumatic for both the mother and the baby. Sometimes the mother cow will cry out for weeks. Tearing babies away from mothers so you can drink the baby's milk happens even on small farms, it's not just a factory farm thing. Then the mother is used over and over and over and over, exploited for her milk, until she is too worn out to go any further. At that point she is discarded like garbage and usually killed for cheap hamburger meat. Dominion doesn't mean we can do whatever we wants to the animals. It doesn't even mean we can eat animals, because we had dominion in the garden of Eden, and meat eating didn't come until much later, until after the flood. So that alone shows that dominion does not mean use/kill/eat.
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:12 PM
    Why not? Guzzling the breast milk of another species is not weird, right? :p
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:17 PM
    We had bone in ribeyes from the cow that was grazing 200 yards from the grill last summer....
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:50 PM
    So, so, so very true.
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:49 PM
    Yup. I've already got experience making fresh mozarella from raw milk, no buffalo milk however, we don't have those around here. But I can get the best fresh cows milk, 24/7, it comes from a machine that you put coins in, in the middle of the field.. It feels kind of bad to get 10liters of milk in the night, at a shed in the middle of nowhere, but I guess it's legal. We've also got some sourdough going on.. Now we need tomatoes. Oh and Danke, ever had horse steaks ?
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:44 PM
    More than 90% of all meat comes from factory farms, especially chickens and pigs, which is something like 98%. But I'm not even going to argue the health aspect of eating "healthy "meats. If you think it's healthy to eat a dead body, you do you. In my view, it is still merciless, cruel and unnecessary, whether the animal was "free range" or raised in a factory farm. We've been over this before many times, and I really don't have the time right now to go over this in-depth again. Even if the Bible was not tampered with, it is undeniable that God's concession in regard to meat eating was not his original design/ perfect will. Just as divorce, polygamy, and numerous other things that God tolerates in this fallen world were not his original design. Should Christians aim for God's perfect will or God's permissive will? It's not just my opinion that the fallen angels taught mankind to eat animal flesh. A number of early Christian writers talked about that, but as I said earlier, there was a big division in early Christianity, and the carnivore side won out. There are whole books written about this, it is a big topic, not one that we can cover in a few paragraphs on a message board. Also, there are tons of verses that clearly state that God does not like animal sacrifices, including at least one that says he did not require them.
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:11 PM
    Today I grilled some burgers, had a small oil fire on the bbq after I made a decent batch of bacon.. I've got this ceramic grill for 2 weeks now. Very easy to heat up, not so easy to cool down. Easiest ever to make a fire in, and breakfast next morning, open up the vents and it's very likely that it springs back into life. Crazy stuff. Anyways, I was hungry later, so I made some buttermilk fried chicken. With some extra to take to work tomorrow.
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    Yesterday, 01:52 PM
    Doesn't matter my thoughts on butt-slappers, I'll have no part in locking people up.
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    Yesterday, 01:42 PM
    Might be your solution, certainly not mine.
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    Yesterday, 12:53 PM
    True enough and some people are just assholes, guess we'll never know in this case.....
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    Yesterday, 12:52 PM
    I don't know the man either but I was responding to the bolded part of your post that sought sympathy for his wife who was "going to lose everything"....
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:31 PM
    Did you ever stop to think that if his wife kept him satisfied he might not be slapping waitress ass in a fast food joint?
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    Yesterday, 12:29 PM
    Negatory good-buddy! Your white part should get lit and insist that your brown part perform lewd and lascivious acts.
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    Yesterday, 12:26 PM
    Agreed. However, the girl is an idiot too for not handling it herself and for allowing it to escalate to the point it has.
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  • luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:36 AM
    And no burnt meat.
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    Yesterday, 07:37 AM
    Source: The internets.
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  • Dr.3D's Avatar
    05-26-2018, 10:20 PM
    I can't often figure out why things get deleted. Some of mine had disappeared in the past too.
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    05-26-2018, 10:15 PM
    Seems to have been deleted. Post was there and it said.
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  • TER's Avatar
    05-26-2018, 10:10 PM
    May God bless you, my brother, for your prayers and your service for the Church. May the memory of your loved ones be eternal.
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  • NorthCarolinaLiberty's Avatar
    05-26-2018, 08:09 PM
    Screw that job, waitress or otherwise. Pour water on his pants. Dump his plate. Whatever. Never be afraid to lose a job in any situation. Even if it's the expense of giving someone the good ass beating they deserve. But anyway, I too, have been molested in the workplace. There was a former NFL cheerleader who worked in our office. Another woman who worked there was a rather stocky woman of Scandinavian descent. A 60 year old PhD, no less. So one day, the burly woman and I are standing in the hall discussing a report. This woman is actually quite tall. While talking and looking at this report, she sort of brushes her tit up against me. It wasn't incidental contact either. She must have had that globular mass pressed up against me for 30 seconds. But it felt like 30 days. I was actually just a lowly intern, so I wonder if this whole "report" thing was a ruse! Just then, the cheerleader struts by, tantalizing the entire office as usual. It was just my luck that I get molested by the NFL linebacker instead of the NFL cheerleader. It was devastating!
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  • lilymc's Avatar
    05-26-2018, 05:36 PM
    My thoughts exactly. But I do think this topic leads to some interesting discussions. And there is one thing about monarchy that hasn't really been talked about here, so I might start a new thread on it.
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