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    Today, 05:43 AM
    Trump’s Pompeo’s claim is devoid of any thought. Quick initial impressions from Trump/Pompeo’s “smoking gun” video: Nothing in the video confirm the boat is even Iranian. One could just as easily claim is Saudi, or U.S. or Israeli, or UAE or Omani, or anyone else The video does not establish a “limpet” mine or anything at all attached to the ship. It is hard to tell if there is even anything being removed at all. From the movement of ther people if anything is being removed from the ship, it would appear a magnetic anchor tethering the boat to the ship. Interestingly the edited video is only 1 minute 40 seconds long. Where is the video showing the boat approaching the ship? Where is the rest of the video? Might it show on approach the crew attaching a magnetic tether to the ship? Why are they hiding all the rest of the video of what the boat did and its approach? The US government states the video was taken at 4:10 p.m. – approximately 10 hours after the explosion. So the US government and US Navy just left the smoking gun evidence sit there for ten hours to purportedly allow the alleged culprits to come back 10 hours later and remove the “smoking gun” evidence. The alleged Iranians supposedly came back to the “scene of the crime” 10 hours later, in broad daylight, wearing reflective vests, with a crew that appears to be up to 18 people on the boat to remove the “smoking gun” evidence that the US government just let sit there for 10 hours. The video itself is of such horrible quality as to call into question its use, alleged conclusions and legitimacy. The US government has bases all around the gulf including in Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman as well as ships throughout the Persian gulf. Washington has made it a hotbed. US has surveillance drones, and surveillance planes and surveillance satellites watching everything throughout the gulf. And this alleged retrieving of the “smoking gun” evidence occurred ten hours after the blast. The US government would have had a litany of surveillance focused on the event by that time. Why is the only video horrendously grainy, out of focus, zooming in and out and shaky? Why is the video converted to black and white? This is not FLIR video, this is regular video. Why is this surveillance video converted to black and white?
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  • AZJoe's Avatar
    Today, 05:26 AM
    "Master and and commander" ? "sole source of power"? what retarded comic book are these lines coming from? So SS would say that Obama could have committed any act whatsoever to obstruct investigation into the Obama administration wrongdoing regardless of law? Where was SS arguing Obama can do anything he wants to to obstruct any investigation by Congress or obstruct any special prosector Congress appoints. That for any investigation into Hillary crimes or Obama FISA spying or investigation into Eric Holder corruption, then it would be perfectly legal for Obama to threaten investigators, bribe jurors, blackmail judges, destroy evidence. Obama would have been fully within his legal rights to threaten judges. No, being a political office holder of any level is not license to break the law. SS is reaching now reaching the heights of absurdity in the never –ending quest to kneejerk defend all lunacy that is Trump. To say there can be no obstruction of justice if the underlying charges are frivolous is to argue that it suddenly become Ok to blackmail judges, intimidate investigators, threaten witnesses, bribe jurors, harass anyone involved all because the subject of the investigation thinks the original underlying charges are frivolous. To say there is insufficient evidence of any obstruction is one thing, but to say there is free to commit any obstruction of the legal process or special investigator appointed by Act of Congress simply because one believes the underlying charges are frivolous is Alice in Wonderland mad hatter bizarre stupidity.
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Today, 05:08 AM
    Nothing to do with 'evil'.......Everything to do with knowledge and ability.. Learning how to reach level XYZ in the latest video game isn't really a useful skill and men and women alike must have skills, the more the merrier...
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  • Ender's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:34 PM
    Yerp. Let me know when Trump saves Assange- then I might take his bratty tweets about the press a bit more seriously.
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    Yesterday, 10:29 PM
    Read the fucking article.
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    Yesterday, 10:23 PM
    Yes- it is stealing- we have no business sanctioning anyone- if we don't like them then ignore them. Iran hasn't started a war in 100+ years & yet the US Almighty calls them the biggest terrorists in the ME. Read some real truth. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/08/jacob-hornberger/the-deep-states-long-enmity-toward-iranians/
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  • Ender's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:07 PM
    Oh, I totally agree with you. Just remarking on how every generation seems to get upset because the rising generation ain't just like they were.
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  • Ender's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:04 PM
    Good grief- learn some real history & read the OP- we have staged coups in their country & been stealing their resources for 75+ years. We have called them the bad guy so the average joe will agree to all the crap we have done to them. The solution is GTF outta their space & leave them alone. NO sanctions. NO coups. NO stealing their resources. NOTHING.
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    Yesterday, 10:00 PM
    None of these comments provide anything whatsoever to to support the false claim that Amash "supports the Deepstate use of FISA fraud". SS' list of points by Amash confirms the claim as false. As to the collateral issues - "fruit of the poisonous tree" refers to evidence obtained from an unlawful search. None of the alleged obstruction events came from any unlawful search. These are events that happened months and years after the FISA warrant. None of the evidence of the alleged obstruction was obtained from the FISA warrant. Is a defendant's believes the investigation frivolous or unlawful they can contest on those issues. That belief however is not a permit permit a defendant free rein to commit to put political pressure investigators, or judges, or tamper with witnesses. One corruption does not justify another. SS would be better off arguing no evidence of any obstruction rather than arguing that it is appropriate for a politician to use the power of his his office to pressure and influence investigators and witnesses.
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    Yesterday, 09:25 PM
    First, this statement confirms nothing to support that Amash "supports the Deepstate use of FISA fraud". Secondly, no, a politician corruptly breaking laws to obstruct justice does not become ok simply because the politicians believes the investigation is corrupt. That like saying its ok to break the law because you are only breaking the law to refute others who broke the law. That's nonsensical and has no foundation in any American law. And no opposing subsequent crimes is not endorsement of prior abuse of process. For instance a police officer may hide evidence or destroy evidence of in a case where the defendant actually committed terrible murders. Opposing the corrupt obstruction of justice by the officer after the fact, does not mean you endorse the underlying murders committed by the murderer. You may disagree with Amash's position on obstruction based on lack of evidence of obstruction, and that is a proper argument. Much better than making up falsehoods about Amash's position. I have yet to see any sufficient evidence of any obstruction. However that is based on lack of evidence, not because of a belief that politicians should abuse their power in corrupt ways to rig investigations simply because they believe the investigation is corrupt.
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    Yesterday, 08:57 PM
    AZJoe replied to a thread Happy Father's Day! in Open Discussion
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    Yesterday, 08:54 PM
    Baloney. Straight up lie. Quit pushing lies. Amash has always opposed the entire FISA program and its warrantless spying. Disagree with Amash, fine, but try disagreeing with what he actually says instead of makign up lies about his positions. To make up lies is to admit you cannot dispute his actual position. Amash never cited or referred to anything obtained from the FISA fraud for his impeachment argument. Amash's arguments for impeachment have nothing to do with any evidence obtained by the fraudulent FISA abuses. Amash himself refers to the underlying charges and the investigation as frivolous. Amash's basis for impeachment has to do with Trump's conduct AFTER the FISA fraud allegations. 1130533764310945797
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    Yesterday, 08:49 PM
    If Iran had left the deal, we would be bombing them. In fact there is some thoughts that DC may be trying to get this to happen, even though we're already out of the deal. The hypocrisy is that Iran has ALWAYS been in accordance about nuclear weapons & our own gov has said so. It signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty and held to it. Israel would not sign & is estimated to have 200-400 nuclear war heads- but Iran's the bad guy. :rolleyes:
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    Yesterday, 08:41 PM
    Agree- seems like every generation bashes the upcoming one because they don't do things exactly the same. I remember my grandparents talking about how swing dance was "evil" when they were growing up & now there are groups who teach kids swing dance to protect them from the "evil" music of today. LOL- some things never change.
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    Yesterday, 08:34 PM
    BabylonBee (sat) - John Bolton: 'When Has The Government Ever Lied About Attacks On Ships In A Gulf Somewhere Just To Provoke War?'
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  • AZJoe's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:55 PM
    Cowardly Idiot Trump serving his deep state masters, extending FISA orwellian warrantless spying , advocating making FISA abuses permanent (all FISA warrantless spying is an abuse).
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  • tod evans's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:37 PM
    The 'specialized' crowd would be well advised to seek knowledge instead of affirmation but what do I know........
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  • Ender's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:23 PM
    I'm Indian so pour that white whine on your own mess. And, the only thing I've ever praised Obama for was the Iranian nuke deal.
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