• Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-19-2017, 08:17 AM
    :)
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-19-2017, 08:02 AM
    Do you agree that a woman who is accused of and convicted of adultry should be stoned to death? That's a yes or no answer.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-19-2017, 07:56 AM
    End of the day, only worthy men will be free men. And that means something. Far too deep for a thread like this.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-19-2017, 07:50 AM
    I'm right there with you, brother. Have to spread some rep around but I'll get ya. I finally realized that we get a lot of people who like to call themselves libertarian yet act completely opposite. And I make the mistake of calling them anarchists when they're actually globalists. The "Global Citizen" folks. Of course, thats just one thing. I don't really mind true anarchists who have actually thought things through a little bit and understand the pros with the cons of it. I can relate to them. But it's the Global Citizen types that like to blend in and purposefully confuse libertarianism from the perspective of the traditional American philosophy with their globalist philosophy. As if a foreign citizen can just come here as they please and enjoy all of the protected rights that our nation was founded by and that my ancestors spilled their guts for. I really want to call them out by name but I'll pass this morning. But anyway. Yeah. That's where I'm at, too.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 04:38 PM
    Well, it's a good thing I don't care about your feelings, now isn't it, princess. The next time you quote me, quote me completely. It's common gaddamn courtesy. Because when you completely remove the tenor and references in my posting in order to pick out one or two words for the purpose of creating your own separate debate , you're making it personal. I've read your posts for a long time. As I'd said, if you want to have that separate debate, then start a thread. Here it is again...ask your questions in a manner that is relative to what I said.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 04:31 PM
    The people are the government, dumbass.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 01:32 PM
    This is something that I see you say to people quite a bit. I don't generally like to say you're this or you're that or you this or you that. But do you know what? I'm going to make an exception with you just because I see you do it so much. It's you who lacks a grasp on history and our Constitutional Republic. Observably. You're another one of the anarchists around here who really makes the place stink. People like you are why the doers don't come here anymore. People like you are what is wrong. People like you are really nothing but a turnoff to people who have an appreciation for the validity of our founding documents and who would come here to try to learn things. Someone like you who 1 - rejects them, and 2 - has a very minimal and shallow grasp of that which you speak of, really have no business trying to "educate" on the topic. I really do wish that Bryan would thin some of you peckerheads out of here. You, like some others, are not worth your weight. You're a detriment to the cause of Individual Liberty and small government as a matter of functional activism. This isn't an anarchy board. It isn't an anti-government board. What you're doing, and what others like you are doing, is blatantly getting in the way of functional activism. As far as your thought about LE, she's done far, far, far more around here for the cause of Individual Liberty than you ever have. I guarantee it. I suspect that your keyboard is likely as far as you've went to pop off your anarchist, Anti-America, spew. We've lost a lot of good people around here. People who were doers. And do you know why? I'll tell you why. Because they don't want to be represented by or associated with antagonistic pricks like you. People liek you who actually reject our documents and form of government and who think they know far more than they actually do and who get in the way of what we're actually trying to do.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 01:27 PM
    No, scooter. What you're quoting are the words of Senator Jacob Howard, the author of the citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Which I placed into relevant context here with the thread. My tolerance with the antagonistic, anarchist, trolls around here like you isn't what it used to be. So I'm going to give you fair warning should you choose to proceed with that kind of thing. My willingness to be nice is thinning out with some of you who really don't belong here and should be in an anarchist/anti-government board some place.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 12:42 PM
    Regarding ChristianAnarchist's thought here with regard to allegiance to our creator, I do agrree with that. But I think that it needs to be explained in the correct perspective. I'll offer a very good explanation of this underlying principle of the traditional American philosophy as it relates to a proper Man-to-Governemnt/Man-to-Man relationship. Which I've offered previously around the forum but I'll offer it again for sake of courtesy. Principle 1 of The Twelve Basic American Principles which I've taken from a remarkable book on the topic. The American Ideal of 1776 By Hamilton Abert Long, ©1976... A Principle of the Traditional American Philosophy 1. The Spiritual is Supreme...
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 12:29 PM
    Here's what I said.... Please don't remove the tenor of my postings in order to spin my words. Now. If you'd like to discuss the concept the sovereignty of the American citizen, then please do start thread. I'll be happy to discuss it with you if you think I have some kind of shortcoming on the subject. I surely do like to learn, otherone. It's oen of my favorite things to do.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 12:25 PM
    Sure. Myself, as well. Do you understand the fundamental philosophy that Man uses government to be his tools? Because it seems like you're separating Man from Government. Certainly the brotherhood of men under the common Fatherhood of God is the underlying foundation for moral code that stimulates proper man-to-man relations, and subsequemtly defines proper government-to-Man relations. Would you not agree with that? Or are you completely ant-government as opposed to simply less government?
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 07:27 AM
    Yep. And it's on paper, too. Which I've just shown. Still, though, an immigrant can't just waltz into our country and claim jurisdiction when they owe allegiance to a foreign nation. And we get back to the duty of the individual States there.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-13-2017, 07:18 AM
    Well, does section V of the 14th make it clear that Congress has the power to define jurisdiction of the United States of America? I think so. They've used this power before. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 would be an example of the use of that power. Additionally, the Civil Rights Act of 1866 defined citizens of the United States as all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed. That said, and some will certainly disagree, that means that every person born here is subject to individual State jurisdiction. That said, a person cannot just claim jurisdiction because they choose to walk into our country. That's further compounded by the fact that the immigrant owes allegiance to his or her own country. Of course, many will also disagree with the allegiance part, too, but these folks are typically opposed to our founding documents and the very philosophy of our traditional form of government anyway. I didn't even read presence's post yet. I've just read the title at this point.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-12-2017, 01:21 PM
    Suz is ghetto as a mofo, though. Respectfully. lol. But you nice lady, too, Suz.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-12-2017, 01:19 PM
    Ya know, every single one of the selfies you've used have a kind of in your face "oh yeah, mothertrucker, whatchu gonna say about it!!??" look on your face. lol. But, you're a very sweet lady...
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-12-2017, 02:15 AM
    If I were sweet, I'd totaly try to get in them pants. Bandits are so sexay.
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    02-08-2017, 10:06 PM
    Bombogenesis: Could Winter Storm Niko Become a Weather 'Bomb'? From the weather channel... Plus long lines to buy emergency milk sandwiches....
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-05-2017, 06:27 PM
    Are you two, talking about me? Of all people on this board, why do you want to tinker with me? Hm? Why? I'm minding my own business. Heck, I haven't even been around here much lately. I'll tell you something, though, if you two peckerheads want to make a claim like that, then you're gonna have to back it up. I might be a lot of things, but a troll, I am not. I assure you both of that. I likely get more done in a 30 minute lunch meeting that you two drones get done in an entire year.
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  • Chester Copperpot's Avatar
    02-04-2017, 04:47 PM
    yeah they basically have no army to enforce their decree... im glad you resonded to the count
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  • Chester Copperpot's Avatar
    02-04-2017, 01:27 AM
    the court cannot enforce this... it is out of their purview
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-03-2017, 06:53 PM
    My friend, you're way too far out of your league to be making the statements you just made. I think you're just too prideful in your ignorance to know that you are. And, observably, you're equally as aggressive in misinterpreting our documents and history in order to gather support for your cause of anarchy. Here - Learn, dummy. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?493927-The-American-Ideal-of-1776-The-Twelve-Basic-American-Principles&p=6197351&viewfull=1#post6197351 I should neg your silly ass for being purposefully dishonest about history and the tenor of our founding documents. But I think you truly have no idea what you're talking about. I don't think you're very well read. And if you are, then you're more likely reading the wrong books. Probably th ones which make you feel good about your own anarchist worldview. Which makes you dangerous to those who read your pablum and don't know any better about what you're actually promoting from behind the shroud of Individual Liberty. End of the day, Americans are equal, not only by their creator, but in sight of the law. But that's you're problem isn't it? The latter. Want to be a cowboy, do ya? :)
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    02-02-2017, 07:17 PM
    As an after-thought, it's my view that most of the comments here are likely from people who actually reject the very notion of the constitution and the traditional American philosophy of governance as a whole. Put up a poll and I'll guarantee it. I've been around here long enough to know. It's truly amazing how many different factions we have gathering under the liberty banner, though. In many cases, some are actually working against it. But you'd never know it to hear them tell it. Any casual passers-by who may happen across this thread, my advice is to be very careful who you listen to. Some people will have you thinking you're working in favor of the cause of Individual Liberty when you're actually working to forward anarchy/socialism/ or about a half-dozen other isms. And they won't ever tell you otherwise. They'll just turn you loose to spread their bullsht. It's one of the main reasons I don't like people who merely identify as libertarian. Read what they type for five minutes and you'll sure as sht see otherwise if you know what it is that you're actually looking at and understand what they're truly arguing against. The original text of the Constitution clearly says We The People. The Constitution is a document FOR the United States. Not Of. This distinction is very, very important to recognize as the tail tries to wag the dog. And what we are seeing more and more these days, mainly in places like this when the anarchsts start popping off, is people argue against the constitution in a way that projects the notion that the document was written OF the United States of America while completely ignoring (likely they don't even know) that It was written FOR We The People of the United States of America. Nobody else.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    02-02-2017, 06:59 PM
    Well, let me ask you something since you know so much. Does a person who is not an citizen of this country possess the right to come here and be left alone by our government (of, by, and for the people) to pursue his happiness? Whatever it may be. We don't always know, of course. Maybe he gets off on blowing 5 year olds up at school, talking about Allahu Akbar or something sweet like that because, you know, he feels it's his God-given moral responsibility, duty, and natural right. If so, then how? Additionally, and given that American citizens delegate their government with Just Powers in order to protect their Individual rights, how would your foreign citizen excercise his right to prohibit American government from bothering him once he is here? While I've read the moral case for unalienable rights, there also exists a responsibility or duty for every right that American citizens (again, whom delegate their government's just powers) have. Which, when broken down, means simply Right-Duty, Feedom-Responsibility, and ultimately this equates to Liberty-Responsibility as an inseparable whole. Share with us your wisdom. Thank You, PierzStyx.
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  • Chester Copperpot's Avatar
    01-31-2017, 10:21 PM
    its not unconstitutional
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    01-30-2017, 05:27 AM
    Libertarian means to be against government-over-man. Freedom from Government-over-Man. It doesn't mean anything else except for that.
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  • Chester Copperpot's Avatar
    01-28-2017, 11:44 PM
    yeah i believe it...
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    01-28-2017, 12:21 AM
    trumps not paying cpud to blog thats what hes done. hahah
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    01-28-2017, 12:20 AM
    i heard just the other day that trumps approval has gone up to 59%
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