• Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 09:11 PM
    I'm sorry, TER.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 08:35 PM
    Liberty-Responsibility is obscure. Libertinism has taken over and claimed libertarianism's identity. I get this stuff from knowing what I'm talking about. Ask any real anarchist what he thinks about capitalism and get back to me. Any real anarchist worth his weight in keystrokes will argue that there are capitalist transactions which are not voluntary. He'll argue that in order to maintain the structure of a capitalist society that it will require coercion which ultimately would violate anarchist principles. Ron Paul doesn't need to specifically say the words anyway. It should be commonly understood by anyone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject of Liberty-Responsibility. Respectfully, Origanalist, the fact that you even ask me where I dream this stuff up tells me that you do not understand Liberty-Responsibility. It tells me that you likely do not really understand the ism which you've inserted into discussion. Unfortunately, it just confirms my first thought in my response here. Sad. I'll tell you, man, it's really getting to the point that in order to truthfully and effectively educate people on matters of Liberty-Responsibility, we have to go against our own in order to do so. Reason being is that it's our own who have bastardized it and turned it into a libertine circus.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 07:02 PM
    Also, pull the modems out of your old dialup computers. Dank reminded me of that.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 07:00 PM
    I keep a 6 month supply of food and water and other necessities in case we have a solar flare or some other planetary mishap.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 06:37 PM
    Hey, O. Thank You. Really. I share Ron Paul's position on it. Anarchy is voluntary socialism. So how is it that you think anarchy is non-socialist? Libertarianism gives full legal protection for anarchy (voluntary socialism.) That's okay with me so long as you're a true libertarian and have rejected the use of force because, then I don't have to worry about you. If you want to get together and have voluntary socialism, then, you're allowed to do that. But..I should be allowed to opt out. And therein lies the problem. Voluntary socialism is so inefficient that the socialists already know that their system is going to fail so they use the force of a government gun to come and take money and property from the people who aren't socialists in order to subsidize their program. Now, while Libertarianism allows for voluntary socialism, the socialists will never endorse the idea of you having your personal liberty where you can take care of yourself and not ask for anything from anyone else. Really, I'm just quoting our namesake here.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 06:10 PM
    Anyway. Rev, you've got more patience for the riff raff than I do. Have fun.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 06:09 PM
    Go color.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 06:08 PM
    The right to property is an indispensable, material support, of your God-given, unalienable rights to Liberty. That's the correct way to word it.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:58 PM
    You haven't even attempted to touch any argument I've made here.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:56 PM
    Property is the principal material support of a man's God-given, unalienable, rights. Your rights to life and liberty do not come from your warez. They come from God. You have your warez because God gave you the right to them. You did not give you the right to them. And you do not decide another man's unalienable rights to life and liberty.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:46 PM
    This is why nobody takes libertarians seriously. This is why we're always at the receiving end of everybody's jokes.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:38 PM
    You're going to have a State regardless. This is what you people aren't understanding. In a socialist society, the socialist is going to come take your property at the barrel of a gun. Reason why is because he knows that his hierarchy is going to fail and he needs your wealth and your property in order to support his program. The socialist will never accept your right to take care of yourself and to not need anything from anyone. Never. There's no opting out.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:37 PM
    Oh, good. Welcom to my boobie trap. So, then, Natural Law is out the window because the anarchist's form of heirarchy permits for the murder a human being since his right tolife was dictated by economic justification? Do you see what you're saying here? I mean, really. Do you?
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:30 PM
    To repeat what Rev has said here, every social order, including anarcho-capitalism, is maintained by force.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:22 PM
    Remember that song, Zip? I feel the Earth move unda muh knees... Anyway. They better quit fracking and pumping around all of these fault lines. That's just begging for some drama.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:17 PM
    Pierz, you didn't answer my question, bud. Wuh hah hapen wuh, I had asked if a guy is hanging onto your pole in order to save his own life, are you justified in knocking him off of it just because it's your pole? So. Are you? Yes or no? It's a rather direct question. Second part of the question was that, if so, then what primary foundation for moral code gives you that justification to dictate such? You didn't answer that question either.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 05:03 PM
    Does a frog bump his ass on the rocks?
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Today, 04:45 PM
    Already did. As always, dutchsinse is on top of it. There has been a series of 3.6 activity all day on the west coast and around the mid-west. L.A. also had a 3.8 last night. Illinois, too. Pumping activity near the major fault lines.....
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:48 PM
    She's married with two kids and was trading sex for stardom so far as I can tell. That's adultry. It appears she's crying rape because her John didn't keep his end of the bargain.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:37 PM
    I suspect that you agree that there will always be a hierarchy, no matter what the culture. Always. So this alone requires us to understand the nature of obedience. Whether it is willing obedience or unwilling obedience, the fact remains that any hierarchy cannot thrive absent obedience. A hierarchy contradicts anarchism, voluntaryism, and most other half-thought out isms, really. Just because something is voluntary doesn't make it consentual. Coercion is coercion is coercion. The point is that it's laughable to even flirt with any notion otherwise. It's intellectual dishonesty for the voluntarist to say that his system would be the exception. To be fair, in most cases it's simply because one hasn't thought it through all the way. And that's okay. Generally speaking, it's a good idea. But the positives negate the nature of man.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:58 PM
    Hm. Okay. Well here's a question, Pierz. If a guy is hanging onto your pole in order to save his own life, are you justified in knocking him off of it just because it's your pole? Second part of the question is that, if so, then what primary foundation for moral code gives you that justification to dictate such? Third part of my question is very simple. Is whatever is voluntary also ethical? If so, again, based on what? As a note, do we agree that voluntaryism is the polar opposite of dictatorship? Thanks.
    59 replies | 509 view(s)
  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:57 PM
    In terms of anti-virus programs, they're really nothing more than voluntary, onboard, snitches. But the idea of protecting people from themselves has become so popular that people just install them. The best tip for safe Internet browsing is smart Internet browsing. Generally avoid free stuff, too. Free stuff opens a feller up for a world of hurt.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:51 PM
    'Inspirational' robots to begin replacing teachers within 10 years Also, mathematics is unjust and discriminatory - Math is "Unjust and grounded in discrimination" educators moan Additionally, Teachers learn to use math as Trojan horse for social justice
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    Yesterday, 04:45 PM
    I thought that Piriform owned CCleaner. I think Avast's is a different one than the more popular CCleaner made by Piriform.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:39 PM
    Recall the McCain and Fitzgerald warship incidents.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    09-17-2017, 07:50 PM
    Oh, great. Now I'll have to get frisked before I can get my physical.
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  • Natural Citizen's Avatar
    09-17-2017, 07:16 PM
    No. We mind our own business. Some of the most undereducated, most reckless, people I've ever talked with are white. In fact, if you look at the global education stats, America is around third from the bottom. Not that America is wholly white, but you get the idea. In our case, the public education system is a failure. To that extent we need to separate education and state.
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