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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:43 PM
    Please stay on topic, and away from personal attacks. Thanks.
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:45 PM
    Trump isn't claiming to be like Ron Paul; nor has he ever claimed to be a part of the liberty movement. However, to the extent that he wants to do something that is also a platform of the liberty movement, such as auditing the FED, it is not logical for this not to be embraced.
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:28 PM
    No, he did not.
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:27 PM
    Take it up with Walter Block. He is who came up with the name and whose article by the same name was posted by the OP. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/03/walter-e-block/libertarians-trump/
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:14 PM
    I think he will try to slow some of the bleeding, yes.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:16 PM
    Interesting. I'm thinking McAfee is going to do the best going the distance, he will continue to rise as more people learn about his campaign.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:13 PM
    The only opinions that we'll censor are ones based on group hate-- (ex: racism, sexism, etc). We can debate these with non-supporting people who sign up here, but as a base, these it not acceptable within our camp, per the guidelines. We also do not allow people to promote candidates we do not support. Consider if a Bernie supporter came here and started a "Donate to Bernie" thread and similar, it would technically be off-topic to derail that thread but it would lower the value of the site to allow it, it goes against our Mission to help raise money for Bernie. We of course have no reason to back down on a fair debate of Bernie's policies. That said, there does have to be some balance within the thread volume of what is going on as others have suggested. Being a new member has no bearing on you providing value or not, so this isn't an issue. Logic and good ideas are what is taken well which can come from anyone. Thanks for contributing.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:43 PM
    No, this would certainly not be the case. Regardless of whoever wins the president, we would want to: - Discuss all policy matters that are getting attention, work out what is the best course of action. - Push for the best course of action. - Hold the president accountable for their campaign promises that we liked. - Work to stop potential agenda items that we don't like. None of this has anything to do with supporting or not supporting a candidate, and we'd still have done with any pro-liberty candidate. If anything, we would want to hold our own to an even higher standard so they do not harm our message. I hope this helps clear things up.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:30 PM
    This thread is a good example of what not to do. Don't make matters personal to other members, no one cares about the bickering. Stick to facts and logic in the future-- and you'll do to the site discourse a positive service to avoid the use of ad hominem against groups. Are a rule of thumb, using the word "you" in a debate is generally not constructive and often lowers the discourse. Thanks.
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:02 PM
    I fail to see how Trump saying the following, in any way, discredits Ron Paul. Because it doesn't.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:12 AM
    Or perhaps even, the guiding point. These are absolutely some things that we want to achieve, and more. The key is to have the right level of site discourse, which we're improving, have the right site structures, which we're working on, and to have the right people. The entire interactive effort is something that I certainly can't do by myself, and we need people to step up in small ways, but in ways that they can provide value. To do this, there needs to have a good win-win framework in place, which is the goal of our Mission Advancement Framework.
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:01 AM
    ... and for those who aren't aware yet, this is what we hope to do with the Foundational Knowledgebase project. It's also something that we can completely control, we don't need anyone's permission, anyone's votes or the like. See this thread for the project kick-off: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?490530-The-Mission-Advancement-Framework-A-new-site-initiative!
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  • Bryan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:56 AM
    There is some balance here. For one, I don't know of anyone that is saying to hold your breath, no one is saying "hope" beyond a campaign slogan, and no one is saying to waste your time on fruitless efforts. I do agree that we should be smart in how we spend our time and use our assets, I agreed all of this recently in the this thread here on the new site vision: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?494373-A-new-site-vision-a-new-era I see Rand's campaign as a bit of a turning point showing we need a better plan, and it's not a good idea to wait to 2020 or 2024 to try some slightly different version of what has already been done. Ultimately however, your path is a personal choice and the best path will depend upon may factors that are unique to you. Sure, maybe the machine won't let us change the machine from working form within the machine but we can still leverage the machine to build our numbers. That's what I've said is one of the main benefits of the campaigns, and our campaign evaluation system factors this in. Consider we would not be here if it was not for Ron Paul leveraging the machine to get his message out. It works. Consider that people like Massie and Amash got into Congress and are working to push our message from within. They have an opportunity, took it, and it's working for them. So I say to find your balance and come to peace with it, explain why you have that view but there is no reason to beat up others for doing something different. Again, read my post (at leas the "State of the Movement; Where do we go from here?" section) in which I address these points. In short, I say that for now, we should focus on things that we can control.
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:28 AM
    He's not conceding. He just doesn't see the point in wasting time on someone who has quit. It's your choice, but you should not be here berating those who have not.
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  • ChaosControl's Avatar
    05-01-2016, 05:02 PM
    Uh I am not Trump fan but America first should be a priority of any president. The ADL can shove it.
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  • LibertyEagle's Avatar
    05-01-2016, 03:32 AM
    Remember that in elections past, candidates were told to drop out, when the establishment's chosen one was in the lead, or close to it. And the Republicans flock to whomever is left. This election is different though, because the establishment's choice(s) keep being beaten.
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