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    Yesterday, 01:40 PM
    Trump was all over the map. He said that Obama pulled out of Iraq too early. How is that "non-interventionist?" He flip flopped continually during the campaign. And Rand has been better already than how he campaigned. During his first campaign he endorsed testimony from torture.
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    Yesterday, 01:36 PM
    What? Let me get this straight. You actually believe that a group that has been stolen from has the right to steal from other people who were not born when the stealing took place? That is your argument? Seriously? Okay I get it now. You are not as intelligent as I thought. You just really lack any kind of libertarian intellectual rigor. Let me help you out. Socialism is simply impractical. Look at the Soviet Union itself. The Russians had indeed been oppressed and stolen from by the czars. People shouldn't be able to take from others simply because they were born with a noble title and have an army to back them up. That doesn't make what happened in the Russian revolution good. If you lack the brains to understand that then please educate yourself before you try any further to advocate for libertarian causes Dannno. I never said it did help any white people today. That said, there are people living today who have generational wealth derived from slavery, so your point is another lie. To say it didn't help any white people today is to pretend that generational old money wealth that traces back to slavery doesn't exist. Now it doesn't help most white people today and it didn't help most white people when it existed and it was never designed to help them.
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    Yesterday, 12:59 PM
    I agree.
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    Yesterday, 12:46 PM
    I didn't say it wasn't on topic. I said it had nothing to do with my point. And it didn't. Slavery did happen. There was an effect. Resources were stolen. And there is ongoing oppression. That said, socialism is not the answer. What you seem to lack the intelligence to understand is that you can focus on helping yourself without pretending what happened to you somehow didn't happen. If you were molested as a child, spending all of your time being mad at your molester doesn't fix your problems. But neither does pretending the molestation didn't happen or that somehow the molester is a "victim too" because his life sucked after being put on the abuse registry. Yep, slavery hurt white people too. Your point? Ron Paul is capable of reaching black people because, once he finally distanced himself from the assholes who wrote his newsletters, he was actually able to talk about real problems in the black community, acknowledge that systematic racial government oppression still exits, then ask the question "Do you really think more government will fix the problem" where the answer to that is obviously no.
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    Yesterday, 12:26 PM
    ^This. This is soft power. This is what all of the people who gave Rand a blank check to sound as teocon as possible when he first ran for Senate are really signing up for even if they didn't understand it! Rand wasn't going to run for senate sounding like Ted Cruz and then get there and become a clone of Ron Paul. Sheesh! I still contend he could have won without got so deep into teocon territory, but what's done is done. Either the strategy will pay off long term, or it won't. I expect that by 2020 when Trump is running for re-election we will still have troops in Afghanistan and Syria. I suspect Rand won't primary Trump. I suspect we'll still have troops in Libya and Syria in 2024. What happens after that, God only knows.
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    Yesterday, 12:19 PM
    Yes you did lie and you are still doing it. I copied and pasted part of what I said that you ignored. And I responded to your bullshit argument by pointing out that THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING I WAS SAYING! The fact that slavery affects whites and black does NOT have anything to do with my argument. And again, you did not at all respond to my fact list that I put in about current oppression. Here it goes again liar. And you will snip it out again because that's just what you do. We shall see if the black Somali immigrant officer who killed the blonde haired, blue eyed white woman from Australia gets off. He might. He's got the same "I was afraid" excuse. And in this case his partner was also afraid. And yes, there have been other whites murdered by police. Kelly Thomas comes immediately to mind. The teenager on his way home from the church basketball game also comes to mind. And the homeless guy that got shot on video for no apparent reason. However that doesn't take away from the racist origins of the police force. As Tony Brown used to say "Blacks are the canary in the coal mind. Whites should pay attention. What happens to blacks will ultimately happen to them." I have lived to see that with the mostly black crack epidemic morphing into the mostly white meth epidemic and now the mostly white opioid crisis. More and more whites are being abused by police. Abortion was originally aimed at blacks and its affecting the white community now. The pit you dig for someone else you often fall into it yourself. And that's not even all that I wrote that you did not respond to.
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    Yesterday, 12:13 PM
    You are an absolute liar. I responded to everything you said. You snipped out 90% of what I said. Anyone with half a brain who looks at the posts quotes will see that. I don't mind people disagreeing but I can't stand lies. Here is an example of something you did not respond to. We shall see if the black Somali immigrant officer who killed the blonde haired, blue eyed white woman from Australia gets off. He might. He's got the same "I was afraid" excuse. And in this case his partner was also afraid. And yes, there have been other whites murdered by police. Kelly Thomas comes immediately to mind. The teenager on his way home from the church basketball game also comes to mind. And the homeless guy that got shot on video for no apparent reason. However that doesn't take away from the racist origins of the police force. As Tony Brown used to say "Blacks are the canary in the coal mind. Whites should pay attention. What happens to blacks will ultimately happen to them." I have lived to see that with the mostly black crack epidemic morphing into the mostly white meth epidemic and now the mostly white opioid crisis. More and more whites are being abused by police. Abortion was originally aimed at blacks and its affecting the white community now. The pit you dig for someone else you often fall into it yourself.
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    Yesterday, 11:34 AM
    Would you rather they be women and children who would more likely need a handout and be eligible for DACA or to have anchor babies?
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    Yesterday, 11:33 AM
    It's funny how you claim to not be disagreeing with what you are disagreeing with. Again: Except....resources were stolen from Africa...labor was stolen through slavery....and oppression is still going on. Resources, human and otherwise, were stolen from Africa. Anytime you take something without paying for it and it's not a gift, that's theft. That taxation is also theft is non sequitur to the point. Labor was stolen through slavery. That's not even debatable. And oppression is still going on. Hence my quoting Ron Paul.
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    Yesterday, 11:28 AM
    You did not at all respond anything I said about police brutality. One of the "resources" was human. And you can't go into someone else's country, take millions of their people off in chains, and then say you were just "harvesting" the gold, ivory, copper etc. I tell you what. Let some people break into your house, kidnap you at gunpoint, and then say "We just harvested all of his electronic equipment." Another lie. I responded to your idiocy about slavery. I said it was a straw man argument as I have long said that ending slavery was good for the south. \
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    Yesterday, 11:23 AM
    Liar. You ignored 99% of my post and you have the gall to say I'm missing the point? Go replicate yourself asexually.
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    Yesterday, 11:22 AM
    Let's see. Trump installed face scanning cameras because.......? I have no idea. Rand gave his initial reason for not voting for Pompeo based on the theory that Pompeo didn't support Trump on getting out of Afghanistan. So Trump and Pompeo came out and said "We agree!" So....no reason left not to vote on Pompeo. Rand could have drawn a brighter line in the sand like "I don't support anyone who would call for the execution of whistleblower Edward Snowden." But...that's also Donald J. Trump. Rand hasn't been willing to face down Trump since he stood up to Trump in the debates and went down in the polls for his trouble. Really, if Rand went full bore anti Trump even some of the Trumphumpers here would turn their backs on him. Again, as I've said multiple times, this all goes back to the over the top pandering Rand did to the teocons to get elected senate in the first place. Once you start "going along to get ahead" where do you stop?
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    Yesterday, 11:14 AM
    dannno From the desk of Ron Paul. http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/august/02/politics-is-not-the-path-to-pro-life-victory/ Planned Parenthood may have abandoned the explicitly racist and eugenic views of its founder Margaret Sanger, but the majority of its abortion "services" are still provided to lower-income and minority women. Every day nearly 2,000 African-American babies lose their lives to abortion, a rate five times higher than the Caucasian abortion rates. I support the black lives matter movement. I have long advocated an end to the drug war, police militarization, and other threats to liberty that disproportionately victimize African-Americans. However, I wish some of the black lives matter movement’s passion and energy was directed to ending abortion. Unborn black lives also matter. I fully concur with intelligent conservatives like Dr. Paul and unlike yourself, Kanye West or Ms. Owens.
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    Yesterday, 11:09 AM
    Bump for Dannno. You can be against the socialist "solutions" of idiots like "Black Lives Matter" and yet not embrace morons who try to pretend nothing is going wrong in this country with regards to race or other issues.
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    Yesterday, 11:05 AM
    :rolleyes: WTF? Slaves were "harvested?" Mate you are about as dumb as a box of rocks. 1) Straw man argument. I never said who would or would not be richer.
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    Yesterday, 10:31 AM
    https://www.mail.com/news/us/8444572-accused-serial-rapist-killer-undetected-working-co.html#.7518-stage-hero1-1
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    Yesterday, 10:14 AM
    https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/20/southern-poverty-law-center-scraps-its-h Fewer bigger douchebags then the SPLC.
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    Yesterday, 10:01 AM
    Oh but American has the worst healthcare in the world. /sarcasm
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    Yesterday, 09:53 AM
    Except....resources were stolen from Africa...labor was stolen through slavery....and oppression is still going on. I agree that socialism is not the solution to problems in the black community, but it's asinine to pretend that there has not been a systematic government sponsored racist cause. The police force, that's really oppressing everybody, began as a way to catch runaway slaves. The drug laws are aimed at blacks and, sadly, many black leaders went along with it. Same with gun control. Ronald Reagan loved gun control as a governor because he wanted guns taken from the black panthers. You don't have to deny that problems exist in order to find real solutions. When Booker T. Washington was pushing economic development on the front end, he was secretly funding lawsuits against Jim Crowe laws on the back end. My personal opinion of Candace Owens is....she's got some growing and learning to do. I remember when Tony Brown of Tony Brown's Journal fame openly quit the democratic party and joined the Republican party back in the 1980s. But he eventually left the Republican party because of all of the racism and patronizing of blacks he saw. I fully concur with Tony Brown. The Democrats suck. The Republicans blow. Violent crime in this country is at a 20 year low, the black teenage birth rate has been steadily declining for the past 20 years, and yet, for no explicable reason, police shootings are at record highs. I would like Candace Owens to explain to the parents of Tamir Rice why it was okay for him to be gunned down for playing with a BB gun. I would like her to explain why the 911 operator is not in prison for taking a call where an idiot white woman decided that a kid playing with what was probably a toy gun was a reason to call the police in the first place and then the 911 operator lied to her fellow officers and said "Active shooter." I would like Ms. Owens to explain to the family of Eric Garner how it is that an officer could put Mr. Garner in a choke hold that went against NYPD policy, and the coroner could label his death a homicide, and yet nobody went to prison. It's not like we don't know who did the homicide. I would like Ms. Owens to explain how a flash bang grenade can be thrown into a child's crib and blow a hole in his chest and nobody goes to prison. I would like Ms. Owens to explain how police can bust into a house guns blazing looking for a suspect who's not there, kill a 7 year old girl and nobody goes to prison. I would like Ms. Owens to explain how Freddie Gray can be alive when he is put in the back of a police van, dead when the ride is over, and nobody goes to prison. I would like Ms. Owens to explain how an officer can pull over Philando Castille, Mr. Castille tells him "I am a concealed carry holder", Mr. Castille is told go get his wallet, Mr. Castille reaches for his wallet, the officer says "Don't reach for that gun", Mr. Castille says "I'm not reaching for a gun", the officer kills him anyway, and the officer gets off on the lame excuse that he was "in fear of his life" even though his partner was not afraid. We shall see if the black Somali immigrant officer who killed the blonde haired, blue eyed white woman from Australia gets off. He might. He's got the same "I was afraid" excuse. And in this case his partner was also afraid. And yes, there have been other whites murdered by police. Kelly Thomas comes immediately to mind. The teenager on his way home from the church basketball game also comes to mind. And the homeless guy that got shot on video for no apparent reason. However that doesn't take away from the racist origins of the police force. As Tony Brown used to say "Blacks are the canary in the coal mind. Whites should pay attention. What happens to blacks will ultimately happen to them." I have lived to see that with the mostly black crack epidemic morphing into the mostly white meth epidemic and now the mostly white opioid crisis. More...
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    Yesterday, 09:23 AM
    You mean the fake news like the bimbos on Fox who are praising Trump's needless military buildup? See: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521307-Trump-s-War-on-Russia-Syria-UPDATES&p=6621588&viewfull=1#post6621588 The fake news praising Trump for bombing Syria over what is an obvious false flag? The fake news that is on board with Trump trying to ban bumpfire stocks by executive order? The fake news that ignores that Trump and Clinton were buddies with billionaire pedophile Jeff Epstein?
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    Yesterday, 09:12 AM
    The woman on the far left looks (and acts) like Nancy Pelosi's right wing twin sister. Edit: Just finished watching the whole thing. Those have to be the dumbest women on the planet. This is Fox's version of "The View?" Their male co-host at least seems co-herent. David Stockman owned those losers.
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    Yesterday, 04:38 AM
    Are you referring to the auto bailout which everybody but Ford took? And fascism grand?
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    04-25-2018, 03:00 PM
    As a Seventh Day Adventist I'm not sure how to take this. We're traditionally anti-pope but also traditionally believe in annihilationism. (Malichi 4:1 "The wicked shall be stubble." Eze 28:18-19 "I will bring they to ashes...never shalt though be any more." Eze 18:20 "The soul that sins shall die.") It's definitely strange days we're living in.
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    04-25-2018, 02:54 PM
    jmdrake replied to a thread Insurance in Peace Through Religion
    I have a friend who lives in the Bahamas who's million dollar home was destroyed in the hurricane. He has and at the time had insurance. He still hasn't gotten a settlement check yet because the insurance company said they are still paying off for Puerto Rico. Make of that what you will. I have another friend who's home was destroyed as a result of the Nashville flood in 2010. He had flood insurance, but the insurance company wouldn't pay because they said the damage was from a mud slide and he didn't have earth moving insurance. Make of that what you will too.
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    04-25-2018, 02:34 PM
    So does that mean we're going to war with Iran or all of Europe or both?
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    04-25-2018, 11:01 AM
    I recently blew a head gasket and was going to get it repaired but the shop said, because the car was turbo charged, it would cost as much to fix it as it would be to buy another engine. So much for "reduce, reuse, recycle."
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    04-25-2018, 10:57 AM
    Considering the fact that, so far, Iran has actually abided by the deal, why scrap it? What is the "need" for us to scrap it?
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RLC chair trying to sabotage CPAC vote

by GigiBowman on 01-29-2011 at 02:06 PM
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You know, that is a point to consider. I went back and looked it up and this is what the first ballot at SRLC looked like:


http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time....lc-straw-poll/

And, of course, Ron lost by one vote.

Which is not at all to suggest that Ron owns the vote of Johnson supporters, just that if Ron Paul supporters think it won't matter to divert a little voting Johnson's way, it very well could.

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