dannno
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Excellent!

I just read that they will be asking for asylum and not trying to sneak across- and there are maybe 600 or less.

Shocked, I tell ya. :rolleyes:

Look out!

You can't kick black people out of your business for any reason because Starbucks.

You need to look at the bigger picture. Opening our markets to them will create more production here. So instead of sitting at home, some people who are looking for work or can't find any at all and have left the labor pool will be getting good job skills in the market. They won't be on welfare, they will be making their own money and it will be coming from Mexico. They can spend that money here instead of taxpayer money. And yes, some of the resources will go down there, it's only fair.. but then what happens is Mexico will get access to our markets and want to be more productive themselves so they can better afford the goods and services that are now available. The benefits from the mutual exchange that Trump will enable will be immense in the long run and will be great for both countries. The wall is going to cost $64/person and that is a one time cost. In 2016 Obamacare cost over $300/person, that is an annual cost, and I have seen articles that show that Obamacare never would have passed without illegal voters, because they put enough people who were elected in congress to pass it over the top. But since you don't believe illegal voters exist, it definitely would not have passed without those who were born here by parents who were illegal at the time. So $64 one time cost vs. $300/year just for ONE government program they helped pass. The math seems pretty clear.

No, the goal is we will turn things around and make government as a whole smaller, at best, but at worst we will do it to ourselves at a later date. That is what the math says. Putting up a wall only decreases your freedom if you are trying to cross into Mexico or hire them for cheap labor here, but much of the cheap labor is here now so even that is pretty limited. The problem is the cheap labor doesn't cover all of the costs of the immigration because government is so big and offers so much that a lot is tagged on with it. So we decided to stop doing that at least until we have a smaller government. Not building a wall or fighting illegal immigration will lead to more socialist policies like single payer healthcare and the rest of the socialist platform, but hey, at least you are free to go to Mexico (although you might want to talk to them about immigration, they have very strict immigration laws unlike us). For those of us who are for open borders in a libertarian society, immigration and its effects have to become very extreme to think that closing off immigration is a good idea - but it is in this case. I was somewhat willing to deal with the costs because a lot of their problems down there are our fault, but then when I realized we were creating a snowball effect by bringing more socialist people here and keeping them here by baiting them with big government programs and then who are going to bring our country even further to the left, create more big government services, and use them... well that's when I became at least ok (luke warm) with that part of Trump's platform.. and understand where LE was coming from all those years. It does appear to be leading us toward a complete socialist leftist disaster to me.

I say thats setting people up to fail. Brave New 1984.

Sounds like an inmate transfer. From county jail to state prison.

Its a two way street. I dont like making choices for others. Im also not fond of trying to limit anyones choices, which includes both you and your customers. It should be beyond the scope of my ability or authority to make those decisions. The trouble is, there is very little option to opt out for people. The default is to be tracked and targeted. Most people do not know how to block ads. They rely on add ons and extensions to do that for them. Sadly, many of the Ad Blockers are forms of Malware (link underlined). People are becoming desperate to block these ads because of various reasons, a big one is being tracked. But I do understand your point that there are advantages to it. These big companies never operate as "Opt In". I just hate it when big companies demand to track all their customers. Not you specifically so dont take it personal, I mean like Walmart or Target. When their petty employees demand to track me, thats when I walk out the door and dont ever come back, because they think they have a Right to make those choices for me. They dont, no more than I can tell you how to run your business. If you have something I am looking for and the price is reasonable, I would buy something from your store. Demand that I like you on Facebook or you'll charge me more (also, not you, apartments here do this), Im out the door and wont come back. That to me is beyond the scope of simple transactions.

They can stay in Starbucks.

It was hidden inside a video game.

Well they want bigger government at double the rate, so...you know...math and stuff..

Will the judge be another close personal friend of George Soros :confused:

Uh, yes?

If he really wants to get ahead, he should promise to pay for the wall.

Stop acting retarded, I already outlined how it works very clearly, just because it doesn't fit into all the little scenarios you are laying out doesn't mean when Trump says, "Mexico is going to pay for it" he is wrong, because he is actually technically correct if you look at the US and Mexico as collective entities.

Gee, I guess maybe you shouldn't have stopped reading my post right there since I explained that afterward. Thanks for wasting everybody's time.