03-09-2017, 11:00 AM
Feel free to keep carrying on this discussion with yourself. We agree that vaccines kill and injure people. That is the only point I am making, and have ever made. This information is suppressed from the public with the lie that vaccines are "safe and effective."
You want to make a case, based on your belief, that these injuries and deaths are insignificant based on reported cases. But the only fact I am presenting is that these cases are under reported, and no one knows the actual numbers. Your position is not defensible, because you do not possess the facts (actual numbers of people who are harmed or killed by vaccines.) You are making a statement of belief, based on what data does exist.
What is seldom, if ever, discussed in all this is whether or not those who are sacrificed on the altar of vaccine belief, through losing their life, or being permanently disabled, are justified for "the greater good." Even if you believe in the concept of "the greater good," the burden of proof is still on you to prove that the rest of society is benefiting from vaccines.
That is not a statement that you can prove scientifically. Historical rates of infectious disease, for example, show that those diseases were on the decline in populations long before the vaccine for it was developed, suggesting that natural immunity, as supplied by our Creator, is probably better than vaccine-induced immunity, and the science shows many, many examples of vaccine failure where the supposed immunity wears off over time, or the pathogen adapts and the vaccine is no longer effective. Most of the new cases of pertussis today, for example, are among the vaccinated.
And the flu vaccine: the evidence is overwhelming that it is not effective.