• 11-09-2012

    by Published on 11-09-2012 12:48 PM



    America is over $16 trillion in debt. The "official" unemployment rate still hovers around 8%.

    Our federal government claims the right to spy on American citizens, indefinitely detain them, and even assassinate them without trial.

    Domestic drones fly over the country for civilian surveillance.

    Twelve million fewer Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, yet political pundits scratch their heads.

    It's not hard to see why, though.

    To go along with endorsing a never-ending policy of bailouts, "stimulus packages," and foreign military adventurism, the establishment of neither major party questions the assaults on Americans' liberties I’ve named above.

    As my campaign showed, the American people are fed up. Many realized heading into Tuesday that regardless of who won the presidential election, the status quo would be the real victor.

    GOP leadership is now questioning why they didn't perform better.

    They're looking at demographic changes in the United States and implying minorities can only be brought into the party by loudly advocating for abandoning what little remains of their limited government platform and endorsing more statist policies.

    My presidential campaign proved that standing for freedom brings people together.

    Liberty is popular – regardless of race, religion, or creed.

    As long as the GOP establishment continues to not only reject the liberty message, but actively drive away the young, diverse coalition that supports those principles, it will see results similar to Tuesday’s outcome.

    A renewed respect for liberty is the only way forward for the Republican Party and for our country.

    I urge all my Republican colleagues to join the liberty movement in fighting for a brighter future.


    http://www.facebook.com/ronpaul/posts/10152139410646686
    by Published on 11-09-2012 11:30 AM

    I had a Republican friend of mine post the following on Facebook blaming Ron Paul for Mitt's loss:

    I know, I know, if's and but's. But, if Ron Paul would have endorsed Romney/Ryan , would we have had a different outcome? How many republican votes were wasted on him, when he had no chance? Just sayin.

    Here is my response to him:

    When we lose a race, we first start out in a somber mood and then after thinking about the loss over and over we begin to rationalize how we lost and cast blame. We justify the loss by blaming someone or something else and most times we blame others when we shouldn't be. This is one of those times.

    Ron Paul's supporters are one of the most missunderstood subjects for the general Republican. His supporters aren't the same as a Santorum supporter or a Newt supporter or even a Bachmann supporter. Those who support any of those three candidates are in the "general Republican" demographic, meaning they are a Republican who will support all Republicans regardless of who that Republican is. When Bachmann dropped out of the Presidential race, her supporters latched onto the Republican candidate that was their second choice, perhaps someone like Newt. This is how the general Republican's work. Steve, you fit in his demographic and that's not a bad thing, mind you. "General Republicans" tend to have a hard time understanding why Ron Paul's supporters don't do this and that's because they view the Ron Paul supporters as "general Republicans" when in fact they are not.

    Ron Paul's supporters come from a variety of areas. I would break down his supporters into the following percentages:

    25% General Republicans
    25% Disenfranchised Democrats
    25% Libertarians
    25% Independents

    These percentages explain alot. The general Republican assumes that Mitt Romney would have received all of the votes from the Ron Paul supporters IF Ron Paul had thrown his support and endorsement behind Romney and this is not true.

    During this election, the 25% of Ron Paul supporters that were in the "General Republican" category ended up voting for Romney. This happened regardless of a Paul endorsement.

    The 25% of Paul supporters that were Democrat went back to voting for Democrats, mainly Obama. They ONLY voted "Republican" because they liked Ron Paul and not because they had an epiphany and seen the light only to switch parties. These supporters would only vote for a Republican Presidential nominee if that nominee were Ron Paul. When that wasn't the case, they went back to the Democrat party.

    The 25% of Paul supporters that were Libertarian, like the Paul Democrats, went back to voting for the Libertarian Party candidates. Paul brought them in and they were only going to stay if he were the nominee. In their eyes, Romney was so far left and nowhere near their Libertarian beliefs, that they would NEVER vote for him and they didn't. Those votes went to Gary Johnson. It is worth noting, the Libertarian Party and Gary Johnson both said they wouldn't run a Presidential candidate if the Republican's had nominated Ron Paul.

    Now the other 25% of Paul supporters are a mix of disenfranchised Green Party voters, Constitution Party voters, etc. They, most likely, went back to voting for their Party's candidates, although I'm sure a few voted for Romney, Obama and Gary Johnson also.

    The reason I point all this out is because Ron Paul brought in ALOT of potential voters to the Republican Party and when Romney won the nomination, close to 75% of those voters left the Republican Party.

    It's easy to blame Ron Paul for Mitt Romney's loss but this is a wrong. The one person we should blame for Mitt's loss is Mitt himself. This is proven by the losses the Republicans suffered in the lower races. In Presidential election years, the top of the ticket tends to influence how the rest of the ticket does. Meaning, the stronger the Presidential candidate, the more votes the lower candidates get because they ride on his or her coattails. Mitt was not a strong candidate and thus didn't bring in a lot of enthusiasm to the party so there wasn't any enthusiasm to carry over into the congressional races, senate races and state races.

    At this point, those of us that are "general Republicans" need to step back and assess our Party's future and plan for two years from now and four years from now. My first suggestion is to stay away from nominating moderates and nominate a conservative.
  • Top Activist Efforts

  • Activism News & Discussion

    Murray N Rothbard

    What happened to Stefan Molyneux?

    Thread Starter: Murray N Rothbard

    Nationalism? White supremacy? Trump? Is it an act or is it genuine? Either way, it's shocking. Not even going to link the videos.

    Last Post By: Wilf Yesterday, 09:41 PM Go to last post
    Brett85

    Tim Huelskamp deserves our thanks

    Thread Starter: Brett85

    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/289816-tim-huelskamp-deserves-our-thanks?utm_content=buffer8e8d7&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Last Post By: Brett85 Yesterday, 05:09 PM Go to last post
    speciallyblend

    Gary Johnson 2016 over the hillaries(hillary/trump)!!Spread the websites far and wide

    Thread Starter: speciallyblend

    These 2 sites are cross linked if any media wants to interview site creator please im me. thank you kenny, GARY JOHNSON over the hillaries(hillary and trump(hillary with a phallus)) www.hitlary.com and www.trumphoon.com feel free to main page this and sites mods? if you like, We need to defeat trump and hillary or we will all need lots of lube as they F US!! GARY JOHNSON 2016 the only option...

    Last Post By: CAllen Yesterday, 04:01 PM Go to last post
    Matt Collins

    Jerry Doyle has passed away

    Thread Starter: Matt Collins

    https://www.facebook.com/TheJerryDoyleShow/?pnref=story -- I had the privilege of working personally with Jerry Doyle while serving as the Technical Director of LPAC. He texted me a photo of himself posing in front of the Federal Reserve and asked me to put it up on the projectors during his speech, heh. He was a fun guy to hang around at the bar afterwards too. Sorry to hear of...

    Last Post By: osan Yesterday, 07:40 AM Go to last post
    P3ter_Griffin

    The Libertarian Party as our vehicle

    Thread Starter: P3ter_Griffin

    Taking over the libertarian party? Yea, nay? Seems like a much more feasible thing than taking over the republican party. We could fund-raise to get our message to the airwaves and our candidates elected. We could get rid of the stupid and wasteful primary system and have party officials select candidates to run the different races. We could know who our candidates are going to be before...

    Last Post By: cindy25 07-27-2016, 01:13 AM Go to last post
  • Ron Paul & Rand Paul: News & Discussion

    sailingaway

    We need to do something to give Ron exposure and momentum

    Thread Starter: sailingaway

    We need some momentum. We have less momentum now than we should because WE have stopped advertising this. Ron was number one on twitter in mentions and was number four last time I saw. The msm sucks, but we don't have to cooperate with them. I was disappointed over recent primaries as much because of loss of momentum as anything. IF the delegate reports we are hearing add up to a...

    Last Post By: Natural Citizen Yesterday, 03:35 PM Go to last post
  • 2016 Presidential Election

    Danke

    **The Official** Republican Convention thread

    Thread Starter: Danke

    Sorry, couldn't wait on Matt any longer. "‘White elevators’ sign spotted at Republican National Convention" http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-elevators-sign-spotted-republican-national-convention-article-1.2714148 "The Jim Crow-esque signs were seen in Cleveland’s Quicken Loans Arena, where thousands of Republican delegates, politicians and supporters are expected to...

    Last Post By: enhanced_deficit 07-23-2016, 03:31 PM Go to last post
    randomname

    "Libertarians for Trump"

    Thread Starter: randomname

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/03/walter-e-block/libertarians-trump/ Dr. Donald Miller (donaldwmiller@gmail.com) and I (wblock@loyno.edu) are starting up a new group to be called Libertarians for Trump. LFT has its work cut out for it in mobilizing massive support for Donald Trump within the libertarian community. For there are some libertarians who oppose supporting any politician for...

    Last Post By: robert68 07-24-2016, 05:37 PM Go to last post
    Danke

    ** The Official ** Democratic National Convention thread

    Thread Starter: Danke

    Last Post By: bunklocoempire Yesterday, 10:57 AM Go to last post
    Ender

    How About a REAL Liberty Perspective

    Thread Starter: Ender

    I originally posted this in the "Dark" thread but I think we need to talk about this as it's own subject. You know, part of liberty is to allow people to vote how they wish- I am for that, even though I may think their choice is stupid/outrageous/insane etc. What I am NOT for is the constant name-calling and degradation of those who do NOT support Trump. Every post that shows some...

    Last Post By: Antischism Yesterday, 02:34 PM Go to last post
    CPUd

    Trump Would Fund Super-PACs Aimed at Taking Down Cruz, Kasich

    Thread Starter: CPUd

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-07-22/trump-would-fund-super-pacs-aimed-at-taking-down-cruz-kasich-iqybu9m1

    Last Post By: r3volution 3.0 Yesterday, 09:00 PM Go to last post
    r3volution 3.0

    Trump Opposition Research Thread

    Thread Starter: r3volution 3.0

    A lot of great information has been posted in recent weeks, but it's scattered about the forum. How about we aggregate it all in one place, for easy access? Post what you got (repetition is fine, having multiple sources is a good thing) *material for jokes, witticisms, insults, memes, etc also welcome, in addition to policy issues :toady: is the beginning of the end of...

    Last Post By: Ron Paul in 2008 Today, 12:58 AM Go to last post
    CPUd

    Trump-Kasich Feud Has GOP Worried About Ohio

    Thread Starter: CPUd

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/07/22/trump-kasich_feud_has_gop_worried_about_ohio_131283.html

    Last Post By: erowe1 07-26-2016, 12:23 PM Go to last post
  • General News & Politics

    DamianTV

    Ten Things Less Likely to Kill You Than The Cops

    Thread Starter: DamianTV

    http://parrishmiller.com/blog/ten-things-less-likely-kill-cops/ Full article and source references on link.

    Last Post By: oyarde Yesterday, 08:49 PM Go to last post
    Suzanimal

    The Never-Ending Stadium Boondoggle

    Thread Starter: Suzanimal

    http://www.citylab.com/politics/2015/09/the-never-ending-stadium-boondoggle/403666/?utm_source=atlfb

    Last Post By: dannno Yesterday, 04:51 PM Go to last post
    tommyrp12

    AR-15 Banned in Massachusetts

    Thread Starter: tommyrp12

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/robert-farago/breaking-massachusetts-attorney-general-bans-new-ar-15-sales/ BREAKING: Massachusetts Attorney General Bans Sales of All New “Assault Weapons” As of Today

    Last Post By: Anti-Neocon Yesterday, 12:53 PM Go to last post
    Son_of_Liberty90

    Media and State Dept Ramping up Cold War Flavor

    Thread Starter: Son_of_Liberty90

    Lumpy F*** talking head on TV was talking about how Russians were said to have hacked Hilary's emails. Then he jumps to saying they are supporting Isis to destabilize the Middle East. WTF?

    Last Post By: Slave Mentality Yesterday, 06:43 AM Go to last post
    Philhelm

    "White people to the back." (DNC Video)

    Thread Starter: Philhelm

    That's messed up.

    Last Post By: TommyJeff Yesterday, 05:52 AM Go to last post
  • 2016 Election Calendar

  • Gold Chart

    [Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]
  • Silver Chart

  • Economics News & Discussion

    Madison320

    Would the Federal Reserve raise rates if Trump gets elected, for spite?

    Thread Starter: Madison320

    I feel pretty confident that if Clinton gets elected the Fed will not raise rates but instead launch QE4. But I'm wondering if there's a chance they might raise rates if Trump gets elected, so they can blame the crash on him. I don't think they will, at least not significantly, since that will lead to massive bank failures, depression and dollar default. The Fed hates Trump but not THAT much....

    Last Post By: P3ter_Griffin Yesterday, 08:30 PM Go to last post
    DamianTV

    Unsound Money Has Destroyed The Middle Class

    Thread Starter: DamianTV

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-26/unsound-money-has-destroyed-middle-class Full article on link with better formatting...

    Last Post By: oyarde Yesterday, 02:47 PM Go to last post
    presence

    The Litepresence Report on Cryptocurrency

    Thread Starter: presence

    CLICK HERE FOR HIGH RESOLUTION I've had multiple requests to create a unified location for my charts, predictions, forecasts, etc. so here it is. I'll update the thread whenever I'm trading. You can chat w/ me live at the btce trollbox. Best of luck my friends!

    Last Post By: fatjohn Yesterday, 02:02 PM Go to last post
    timosman

    Profits are no longer important.

    Thread Starter: timosman

    It seems noone cares about profits anymore, it is all about revenue, e.g FORTUNE 500 is based on revenue. It seems the reality has been distorted by the availability of cheap credit.

    Last Post By: Krugminator2 07-28-2016, 06:21 PM Go to last post
    presence

    Etherium Exploit Nets Attacker $50 million Legitimately from DAO Fund

    Thread Starter: presence

    http://pastebin.com/CcGUBgDG #REKTH

    Last Post By: kfarnan 07-28-2016, 04:09 PM Go to last post
    DamianTV

    Highest-Paid CEOs Run Worst-Performing Companies, Research Finds

    Thread Starter: DamianTV

    https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/07/26/223241/highest-paid-ceos-run-worst-performing-companies-research-finds :eek:

    Last Post By: stuntman stoll 07-28-2016, 07:29 AM Go to last post
  • Bitcoin Chart

  • Living Free and Healthy

    timosman

    Cockroach milk is the protein drink you didn't know you've been missing

    Thread Starter: timosman

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/27/health/cockroach-milk/

    Last Post By: oyarde Yesterday, 07:48 PM Go to last post
    oyarde

    What trade items should I stockpile

    Thread Starter: oyarde

    In the event of a currency crisis to trade with Danke ?

    Last Post By: Jamesiv1 Yesterday, 06:00 PM Go to last post
    Suzanimal

    Fire Ants

    Thread Starter: Suzanimal

    I spent most of the day Thursday and Friday morning planting junipers (50 of them!) on a bank. Anyway, I moved a rock and million angry fire ants attacked me:eek:, somehow I managed to only get 8 bites (I was barefoot:o) but dang, they hurt. I looked online for info on ant bites and found out vinegar is suppose to help and they also recommended ice packs. I ended up soaking a washcloth in white...

    Last Post By: Natural Citizen Yesterday, 03:49 PM Go to last post
    Chester Copperpot

    My Cancer

    Thread Starter: Chester Copperpot

    Up until now I havent discussed my personal situation other than with several members whom I am close to. But I felt it was important to mention some things because the doctors are fairly certain how I got my cancer now and I wanted to share it with my RPF friends so they can be wary. So quite simply, doctors are pretty certain that my cancer was caused by the HPV virus contracted through...

    Last Post By: Chester Copperpot Yesterday, 12:26 PM Go to last post
    farreri

    What Fruit, White Rice, & Sugar Do To Your Body. CRAZY!!!

    Thread Starter: farreri

    The dramatic effects these high-glycemic foods have on the body! Some of the diseases helped or cured by eating and drinking nothing but fruit, fruit juice, white rice, and processed white table sugar: Obesity

    Last Post By: farreri Yesterday, 10:46 AM Go to last post
    Suzanimal

    Maypop Fruit

    Thread Starter: Suzanimal

    I have a big beautiful Maypop vine producing a lot of fruit this year. I know it's edible but I've never tried it (we would throw them at each other when we were kids but never ate them) and was wondering if anyone else had. I've heard they taste like Hawaiian Punch and I'm thinking of making infused water with them - anyone tried them? Do they really taste good? My Dad used to tell us to leave...

    Last Post By: Leaning Libertarian Yesterday, 12:27 AM Go to last post
    Zippyjuan

    Bacteria battling over boogers in your nose may have life-saving antibiotic

    Thread Starter: Zippyjuan

    http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/07/bacteria-battling-over-boogers-in-your-nose-may-have-life-saving-antibiotic/

    Last Post By: donnay 07-28-2016, 02:58 PM Go to last post
  • Education & Thought Power

    Ron Paul in 2008

    Am I a libertarian if I dont believe in mulitculturalism or open borders?

    Thread Starter: Ron Paul in 2008

    What do you think? Please explain your opinion.

    Last Post By: RestorationOfLiberty Today, 03:20 AM Go to last post
    Tywysog Cymru

    What has the alt-right accomplished?

    Thread Starter: Tywysog Cymru

    The alt-right attacks libertarians as "losertarians" and asks "what has the liberty movement accomplished?" The liberty movement has elected officials and has raised awareness for many governmental abuses. What has the alt-right accomplished?

    Last Post By: tod evans Today, 03:15 AM Go to last post
    Bryan

    GDP Is a Wildly Flawed Measure for the Digital Age

    Thread Starter: Bryan

    https://hbr.org/2016/07/gdp-is-a-wildly-flawed-measure-for-the-digital-age? ECONOMY GDP Is a Wildly Flawed Measure for the Digital Age Barry LibertMegan Beck JULY 28, 2016 jul16-28-hbr_measure HBR STAFF

    Last Post By: Bryan Today, 01:49 AM Go to last post
    Ronin Truth

    Bloodline of the Gods: Unravel the Mystery in the Human Blood Type to Reveal the Aliens Among

    Thread Starter: Ronin Truth

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1601633653?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

    Last Post By: Natural Citizen Yesterday, 11:20 PM Go to last post
    Suzanimal

    Jeff Deist: The Trouble with Conservatives

    Thread Starter: Suzanimal

    Audio at link. https://mises.org/library/trouble-conservatives

    Last Post By: RestorationOfLiberty Yesterday, 09:27 PM Go to last post
    TommyJeff

    Invisible Hand v. Prisoner's Dilemma

    Thread Starter: TommyJeff

    For those not familiar the Prisoner's Dilemma is as follows: 2 criminals are arrested for the same crime and placed in different rooms. If person A implicates person B, then person B will be tried for the crime and serve 4 years and A will go free. If they each implicate the other, they each serve 3 years. But if neither implicates the other, the lack of evidence will result in both being set...

    Last Post By: Slutter McGee Yesterday, 09:21 PM Go to last post
  • Follow us on Twitter! Like us on Facebook! Subscribe to our top news RSS Feed! New! Subscribe to us on YouTube!