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Leon Panetta Says Brace For 30 Year War With ISIS

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Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
The US doesn't have the money to fight [a war] for 30 [more] years.
They don't need money if they have slave labor.

Think about that awhile. Think about how China got to where it now sits. Now think about the habits of tyrants, the proclivities they display, especially when things get "tight". Money is not an issue. The ability and the will to enslave to whatever degree may be required by a given goal under a set of circumstances, however, eminently is.

In 10 years tops a financial calamity will force the US to pull out of the Middle East completely.
Only time will tell. Time and circumstance alone will reveal the truth. If Theye can convince Americans to voluntarily submit to the role of abject slave, the practical relevancy of money may be swept away. When one considers the deep changes in the perceptual landscape of the meaner over the last 100 years, it becomes clear that technologies of sufficient sophistication in skilled hands can accomplish almost anything in terms of the realization of a political will.

Television alone has done more to alter the perceptual landscape than all other human invention put together, save language itself. The decade following the general availability of television must have been like ultra-viagra to those with eyes to see and a bent for the acquisition of power. Coupled with the stranglehold on training the young on how to see the world, Theye were all but guaranteed their successes to this point.

And probably Germany, Japan, and damn near everywhere else.
Not necessarily. Those nations are conquered. There is no overt reason to bring them to great harms, assuming no hidden agenda to cull populations exists... which is a very big assumption, I admit. So long as a population is well trained to obedience, a tyrant is well behooved to leave them alone. Stirring a well settled pot is an act of boundless stupidity. You go where there is trouble and America is almost all that remains there.

The task of one seeking global dominion must be to gain the consent of the governed to the degree necessary for attaining the goal, at least long enough such that every ankle can be manacled, though manacles are always risky business. But I see the progression going thus: gain consent so vast that nobody dares speak against the arrangements. Once acquired, slowly disarm people and expand the ranks of your lapdog bully boys to safe ratios. This all appears to be happening, except the disarming part... but that could come in an instant under the right conditions. Once your population is disarmed, your enforcers are at full population and properly motivated to do your bidding no matter what, and you have the general consent of the body-boobus, you're set for a very long time. Small pockets of questioning individuals are readily vanished or perhaps killed very publicly. Keeping the masses trained to the violence awaiting those who dissent is probably essential in any formula for perpetual control.

That last bit also speaks to why we are seeing perpetual warfare: maintenance of the perceptual standard.

Consider how the human mind operates. At any given moment, there are those things that are acceptable to the mind and those that are not. For a good Christian man, killing another is generally viewed as not acceptable. But put him in uniform, give him a weapon, and place him in an environment where men "over there" are trying their damnedest to kill him, and that basic cognitive value begins to change. Killing that first enemy soldier is a high hurdle, but once cleared, killing the second time represents a notably lower obstacle. By war's end, killing another human being has become mundane in the perceptual world of even the good Christian man. But then the relevant part comes into play: after the war and a period of time, the good Christian man returns to his old self, no longer willing to kill where there is no perceived need. And if called upon again, the process would be much the same, if not so to quite the degree because circumstances would lead him not to uncharted waters, but to those he already knew. But the important point there is that he returns to his "resting state", just as does an atom when outside energies are no longer imposed upon their spaces.

It is this "resting state" that is important and I firmly suspect it has everything to do with the environmental elements present in a person's early years. If a man be raised up in an environment of peaceableness and respect for life and his fellows, that will always be his "resting state"; the place to which his spirit settles in the absence of extreme conditions. I would go so far as to say that this may even be the natural, hard-wired resting state of the vast and overwhelming majority of human beings, which would go a long way toward explaining why they are so easily manipulated, politically. Regardless, it seems to me that if one can alter the environment from one of peace to one of war during a young person's earliest years, his resting state will be closer to war than to peace. And here by "war", I do not mean formal warfare as typically understood, but rather a warlike environment where violence is part and parcel of daily existence. The child who grows up in an environment full of violence has at least an increased likelihood of one being able to appeal to that sense than with one who has grown up in a loving, peaceful, and respectful place.

What is familiar is comfortable. What is comfortable is familiar. Women who are beaten by their spouses most often remain with that spouse. Why, people ask? Because it is familiar, and being so, it is a known quantity. Known quantities are almost always far less scary than the unknown. Therefore, battered women stay put and endure the unendurable because it is less frightening to them than the uncharted territories of freedom and independence.

Raise a child up in an environment where violence and chaos and anger and hatred are commonplace and that will always be a spot of comfort to them, even if not their ultimate resting state. It will be familiar and so being, they will be able to return there.

Take that and now consider the current environment where violence is everywhere, as is fear, anger, bitter envy between artificially contrived "classes". Theye have done their jobs so very well that I believe few Americans would be able to, much less be willing, to wrap their heads around it. What has been accomplished here walks well past "monumental" and I believe that nearly nobody sees it.

That aside, when we continue to consider this human propensity for returning to the resting state, one can readily begin to see why Theye indulge in perpetual warfare: it keeps THEMME out of their resting states! It keeps them trained and in shape to do what needs doing to be the tyrant - to maintain and further cultivate power, because even for Themme, tyranny is not a natural state of existence, but rather one to which they have trained themselves. Consider the analog in sexual activity. A young man might not be naturally homosexual, but if he dares allow himself to go there the first time, just as with killing, the second time is easier and before long he has trained himself to be attracted to that brand of behavior. So it is with many other things in life, tyranny being among them. These are all matters of training, once a boundary has been crossed, and a man can be trained to virtually any behavior imaginable.

Consider the empires of days past. The fiery young wannabe gathers his forces, fights the fight, prevails, takes over, and ultimately gets old. Getting old more often results in fatigue and fatigue leads to the resting state. The king goes soft. This is not universally true, but often enough to be worthy of note. For some the resting state is softness. For others it is morbid self-indulgence or some other form of corruption of otherwise normal behaviors. The salient point here is that the resting state is often one that is conducive to the wrong behaviors - behaviors that do not well support the necessities of maintaining one's position as king.

I daresay that the modern tyrants have, with the help of our technologies, learned well from the errors of their countless forebears and now have in their hands the knowledge necessary to the perpetual maintenance of station. Warfare is all about the exercise of power. Being in proper warring shape leaves one in a good condition for welding power, particularly from the psychological standpoint. Therefore, until such a time as may arrive where other, more subtle and materially less overtly destructive means are in hand, warfare stands to remain the glue that binds the tyrant to his raison d'être, keeping the musculature of his mind in the proper tone for discharging the duties required to grow and refine his grasp upon the mass.

One day he may have in hand a drug solution - God knows they are flailing at this wildly right now, our children their guinea pigs. They may even one day produce a genetic engineering "solution" to the problem of perpetually maintaining a grip over the wad of humanity. But until then, blunt instrument of base warfare appears to my eyes to be the optimal means by which Theye keep themselves from falling into the same pattern of failure that has plagued those who came before them, generation over generation. Theye now have the technological means through the instruments of mechanization to persecute campaigns of death and destruction until kingdom come. I believe that this is precisely what Theye will do until they either have a better instrument in hand or something stops them. I am not so confident about that something ever coming to fruition.

Therefore, be prepared for many years of strife to come. May I prove mistaken.
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