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Birther Questions & Answers

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This past weekend millions of Americans celebrated Easter, a day filled with colored eggs and chocolate bunny rabbits… otherwise known as the day that Jesus rose from the dead. Something else that rose from the dead this weekend was the issue of President Obama’s birth certificate. On Saturday morning, the Associated Press released an article titled, “In Hawaii, Accessing Some Obama Birth Info Is Easy,” in which the author suggests that that just about anyone can walk into Hawaii’s vital records office and see Obama’s birth certificate information, or someone with a tangible interest could pay $10 to receive a copy of the Obama’s certification of live birth. According to the author of the article, problem solved… everyone who suggests otherwise is a crazy “birther,” right? Well, not so fast there Associated Press…

I am so tired of arguing with uneducated people on the facts of this topic, that I decide that I would compile the information in an easy to use format.

TOPIC: Who are Birthers?
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: Conspiracy theorists, Tea Party activists, crazy Republicans
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Skeptics over President Barack Obama’s citizenship
FACT: People, of all political backgrounds, who believe that Barack Obama is ineligible for the Presidency of the United States based on questions surrounding his citizenship

TOPIC:
Where did the Birther movement begin?
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: From rumormongers, prior to the 2008 election, who were disappointed that Americans were not buying that Obama was Muslim, so they assigned his place of birth as questionable in order to sway the election.
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: They can’t necessarily point to where the movement began. According to polling data, Republicans initially did not question Obama’s birth status; however, as time has marched on more Republicans are beginning to question his status. The latest New York Times-CBS News poll found that 45% of adult Republicans said they believe Obama was born in another country, and 22% said they don’t know. Only one-third of Republicans said they believe the president is native born. The same poll a year ago found that a plurality of Republicans believed the president was born in the U.S.
FACT: Obama’s birth certificate initially became an issue during the Democratic Primary in early 2008 when Hillary Clinton supporters, from a blog called The Blue State, began questioning Obama’s eligibility to be President.

TOPIC: Obama has made public his birth certificate.
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: Obama said, “I can’t spend all of my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead.”
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Obama is not showing his real birth certificate
FACT:[/B] Hawaii has two ways to “prove” citizenship. One way is by producing the CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH, which is the short form computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth that can be printed out at any time. The other way of proving citizenship is by producing a CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, which is the long form original birth certificate document produced at the time of birth with the name of the hospital, hand written dates, signatures of the doctor, the registrar, the director of health, and the state registrar. Obama has not produced his Certificate of Live Birth.

TOPIC: Why does Obama’s birth place even matter?
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: The question is moot because he was born in Hawaii.
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Obama is not qualified for the presidency because he is not a ”natural-born” citizen. Furthermore, his father had British/Kenyan citizenship.
FACT: As per Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution it states, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…” A naturalized citizen, whether naturalized “at birth” or after birth, is not so eligible. In other words, anyone who is born in the United States, of parents who are U.S. citizens, is definitely, without doubt, a natural born citizen. Therefore, Obama would 100% be required to be born in the United States in order to be eligible for President.

TOPIC: Obama’s true birthplace
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: Obama was born in Hawaii
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Obama was born in Kenya or Indonesia
FACT: According to the Certification of Live Birth, Hawaii has Obama in their system as being born in Honolulu. Because of Hawaii’s permeable system, many foreign born people and/or relatives of foreign born people sought and received U.S. citizenship via Hawaiian birth certificates up until 1972. Until the actual Certificate of Live Birth is produced and inspected, nobody can say with 100% certainty they know where Obama was born… not even Barack himself.

TOPIC: The Nordyke Twins born a day later than Obama, received lower file numbers
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: The Nordyke twins got lower lower number because they possibly took longer to deliver than Obama.
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Birth Certificates issued to the Nordyke twins shows their registrations number precedes the number given to Obama, even though Obama was born a day earlier.
FACT: The birth certificates issued by Kapi’olani shows Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961. Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961. However, Obama was given a higher registration number, No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, than the Nordyke twins, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961. Although born a day later, Obama was entered into the system on August 8th whereas those born a day later were entered in the system on August 11th.

TOPIC: How did Obama get in Hawaii’s system?
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: Obama was born in Honolulu and a birth certificate was issued upon birth and entered into their system three days later.
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Upon learning of his birth, Obama’s grandparents, who were living in Hawaii at the time, filled out an application, presented it to a representative to the Secretary of Hawaii and swore a witness testimony that he was born in the Honolulu. It was entered on August 8th.
FACT: Due to the fact that the Hawaiian Islands are home to many Polynesian indigenous people whose customs and traditions did not include western medicine and hospitals, and the fact that many did not live in close proximity to hospitals, the state made it possible for those born in Hawaii to later obtain birth certificates. Unfortunately, this made it was possible for foreign born people to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate simply by submitting an Affidavit to the Office of the Secretary stating they were born in Hawaii. This was most famously done by Chinese born Sun Yat-Sen, who would later become the Founding Father of Republican China. This practice evolved and in 1911 became a law that allowed foreign born person to be registered as though they were born in Hawaii. All that was required was to simply fill out an application, be presented to a representative to the Secretary of Hawaii and have a witness testimony that could include family and friends. The practice continued until 1972. Obama is in the system either because he was actually born in Hawaii or his grandparents submitted an application on his behalf to the Secretary of Hawaii and swore a witness testimony that he was born in the Honolulu. Since Obama refuses to produce his Certificate of Live Birth for inspection, nobody can say with 100% certainty they know why Obama is in the system… not even Barack himself.

TOPIC: The two birth announcements in the newspapers
WHAT THE LEFT SAYS: Both of Honolulu’s manor newspapers, the Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin, published announcements in August 1961 documenting Obama’s birth in Hawaii
WHAT THE RIGHT SAYS: Birth announcements were probably submitted by Obama’s grandparents who knew that he would have a better life as a U.S. citizen than as a citizen of another country
FACT:
The Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin did publish announcements in August 1961 documenting Obama’s birth in Hawaii; however, these announcements were not submitted by the family, they were automatically issued whenever a certification of live birth was issued. Once Obama’s name was in the system, the birth announcement was issued, usually the same day by the Health Department via a news service. Additionally, the address for the birth announcement, which occurred three days later, was 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., an address that belonged to Obama grandparents.

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    OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE HERE... http://www.hollywoodrepublican.net/2...h-certificate/