Conversation Between acptulsa and heavenlyboy34

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  1. I saw you tried to pm me, so I cleared some space for ya. I'll be out of the office for a while, but see you in the by and by. Prolly in 2 hours or so. ~hugs~
  2. Since when is the "We got a badass over here" meme "gay"? It's been all over the interwebz for many moons and it's used by all sorts of folks. There are several samples in the various "bestest picture thread evarrr"-s.
  3. You're right, I should have said the Kaiser, not Bismarck. :/ (My WWI history is rather rusty...I do remember Hitler suffered from mustard gas inhalation during that war and a bunch of other factoids) Yeah, monarchs have been somewhat fascist in certain occasions, but they always had incentive not to destroy their subjects' economy or their own respective societies as presidents and prime ministers or even legislators do. (such elected officials almost always leave office very wealthy and almost never face justice for their misdeeds) Generally speaking, the best to worst scale goes- voluntary association with government>hereditary monarchy>monarchy>classical republicanism>modern constitutionalism>democracy etc.
  4. One, monarchs have nationalized industries and been sort of fascist. Two, Hitler did take on more responsibility than a certain contemporary of his named King George VI did. Third, if Bismarck had assumed more power than Hitler, the Kaiser would have had him shot. Fourth, Bismarck died in 1898 when Hitler was still too young to hang paper.
  5. "Can you not see that he's talking monarchy" (per your rep message) No, he was talking about National Socialism. Hitler was not a monarch at all. He nationalized industry and introduced a sort of fascism to Germany. If you read Hitler, he had no intention of taking the responsibility of a monarch. He was in fact critical of Bismarck, who was closer to a monarch than Hitler. (though he did try to stay in Otto's good graces while he was alive)
  6. Here's a recent audio interview with history teacher Charles Burris which gets into Oklahomha history quite a bit: Hope you enjoy.
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