• Prosecutor: Fatal shooting of Oregon militia spokesman was JUSTIFIED

    Fatal shooting of Oregon militia spokesman was JUSTIFIED, prosecutor rules two months after standoff's climactic end

    By Reuters

    Published: 15:07 EST, 8 March 2016


    The fatal shooting of Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum, one of the armed protesters who took over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon in January, was 'justified and necessary,' a county prosecutor said on Tuesday.

    Finicum was shot and killed by Oregon State Police on January 26 after he tried to flee a traffic stop on a snow-covered roadside during the armed occupation by lands rights protesters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    Relatives of Finicum, 54, a spokesman for the group that seized buildings at the refuge, insist he was not armed when he was killed.

    However, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...actic-end.html


    Sign up for a free account to add your comment!


    Comments 19 Comments
    1. Schifference's Avatar
      Schifference -
      I just watched that video again yesterday. Having a traffic stop with no place to turn off and snipers in the woods is bull$#@!. These guys were peaceful and could have been taken into custody without incident. This is to show everyone who the boss is and what happens if you think you can stand up for yourself.
    1. donnay's Avatar
      donnay -
      Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
      I just watched that video again yesterday. Having a traffic stop with no place to turn off and snipers in the woods is bull$#@!. These guys were peaceful and could have been taken into custody without incident. This is to show everyone who the boss is and what happens if you think you can stand up for yourself.
      I agree they made him to be an example to send a message back to anyone who thinks they can stand up to the Empire.
    1. donnay's Avatar
      donnay -
    1. Origanalist's Avatar
      Origanalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
      Fatal shooting of Oregon militia spokesman was JUSTIFIED, prosecutor rules two months after standoff's climactic end

      By Reuters

      Published: 15:07 EST, 8 March 2016


      The fatal shooting of Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum, one of the armed protesters who took over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon in January, was 'justified and necessary,' a county prosecutor said on Tuesday.

      Finicum was shot and killed by Oregon State Police on January 26 after he tried to flee a traffic stop on a snow-covered roadside during the armed occupation by lands rights protesters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

      Relatives of Finicum, 54, a spokesman for the group that seized buildings at the refuge, insist he was not armed when he was killed.

      However, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...actic-end.html
      No surprise here, they probably told the prosecutor he would get the same treatment if he ruled otherwise.
    1. luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
      luctor-et-emergo -
      However, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.
      If it was in his pocket, where was the (direct) threat ?

      NOT JUSTIFIED. Based on this statement.
    1. donnay's Avatar
      donnay -
      In the video it shows LaVoy came out with his hands up and they shot at him. Look at the back window as he was getting out.
    1. luctor-et-emergo's Avatar
      luctor-et-emergo -
      Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
      In the video it shows LaVoy came out with his hands up and they shot at him. Look at the back window as he was getting out.
      Sorry I have not yet seen the video. I just based myself on what I read the authorities said. Which I think says enough.

      People have definitely been too desensitized to realize that someone who had family, friends, a life, feelings.. Just had his life ended. No matter what the reason really. It's sad.

      Where I live guns definitely aren't appreciated and cops are the only people carrying them. Yet, when someone is carrying a firearm and not trying to use it, they are arrested, not shot and killed. I'm definitely willing to say it's a problem with the police in the US. Stuff like that doesn't happen here nearly as frequently. I won't say bad things don't happen here but very rarely and then there's a lot of outrage.
    1. Valli6's Avatar
      Valli6 -
      Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
      In the video it shows LaVoy came out with his hands up and they shot at him. Look at the back window as he was getting out.
      Yeah, an FBI guy did that - shot through the roof and it went out through a window. He shot at Finicum twice while he was getting out of the truck with his hands raised. He and 4 other FBI guys are now under investigation for lying about it and trying to cover it up.
    1. pcosmar's Avatar
      pcosmar -
      Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post

      Where I live guns definitely aren't appreciated and cops are the only people carrying them. Yet, when someone is carrying a firearm and not trying to use it, they are arrested, not shot and killed. I'm definitely willing to say it's a problem with the police in the US. Stuff like that doesn't happen here nearly as frequently. I won't say bad things don't happen here but very rarely and then there's a lot of outrage.
      I have lived around guns, and people with guns.
      and it has been peaceful.

      I have partied with armed folks in social venues,,and it was peaceful..

      Police have always been violent,, and they are getting worse.
    1. pcosmar's Avatar
      pcosmar -
    1. Danke's Avatar
      Danke -
      So many officers, why didn't they just tackle him?
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Of course it was justified.

      It's always justified, even when it isn't.
    1. squarepusher's Avatar
      squarepusher -
      Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
      I just watched that video again yesterday. Having a traffic stop with no place to turn off and snipers in the woods is bull$#@!. These guys were peaceful and could have been taken into custody without incident. This is to show everyone who the boss is and what happens if you think you can stand up for yourself.
      Except for the part about the huge standoff that LeVoy eventually sped away from, and tried to escape then ran into a roadblock.

      Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
      So many officers, why didn't they just tackle him?
      He reached for his gun and charged the officers, its on video.
    1. Mani's Avatar
      Mani -
      Thank goodness we have Trump on the ballet, he can help us with these problems..

      "You have said the police are the most mistreated people in America....."

      "The Police are absolutely mistreated.....They are afraid for their pension, their job, they don't know what to do....We have to GIVE GREAT RESPECT, far greater than we are right now to our really fantastic police."





      Trump won't let this happen on his watch I tell ya, he will make sure the most mistreated people in America command far greater respect to avoid these kinds of problems.
    1. donnay's Avatar
      donnay -
      Another video has been released:


      Police Release New Footage of LaVoy Finicum Shooting



      Ryan Bundy Cell Phone Video Footage from Inside LaVoy Finicum's Truck

    1. tod evans's Avatar
      tod evans -
      Expecting the police to police the police doesn't work.

      Justice will not be found in their courts.
    1. ChristianAnarchist's Avatar
      ChristianAnarchist -
      Goons gonna goon... They will not stop.
    1. phill4paul's Avatar
      phill4paul -
      And the FBI agents shots? Beuller? Beuller?
    1. TheTexan's Avatar
      TheTexan -
      Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
      Another video has been released:


      Police Release New Footage of LaVoy Finicum Shooting



      Ryan Bundy Cell Phone Video Footage from Inside LaVoy Finicum's Truck

      Last 5 seconds of the video, apparently if you ask nicely for them not to shoot you, they won't.

      If only LaVoy was as well mannered. (sigh)


    Sign up for a free account to add your comment!





    Continue / discuss in the forums Read More

  • Activism News & Discussion

    CaptUSA

    Rand Paul Endorses Gary Johnson for Senate.

    Thread Starter: CaptUSA

    Interesting. Bucking his own party! https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-mexico/articles/2018-08-28/sen-rand-paul-backs-libertarian-senate-candidate

    Last Post By: RJ Liberty Yesterday, 08:56 PM Go to last post
    EBounding

    Fighting local property tax hikes?

    Thread Starter: EBounding

    Anyone have experience in successfully thwarting a local property tax hike? If so, what tactics did you use (mailers, flyers, etc.), how did you frame the issue, and how much did it cost? My town of ~15K people has two municipal voter proposals in November: 2 mill levy for road and water improvements and a 20-year $15M bond to build a new community center. If both are passed, it will cost...

    Last Post By: devil21 Yesterday, 03:54 PM Go to last post
    LibertyClick

    Liberty Memes

    Thread Starter: LibertyClick

    :toady: ** post your liberty memes here ** :toady: I'm hoping for some good ones to post: http://www.libertyclick.org/tag/meme/

    Last Post By: AZJoe Yesterday, 03:37 AM Go to last post
    amartin315

    Read my petition? Sign and share.

    Thread Starter: amartin315

    Hi Guys, Can you check out my petition, give your thoughts, sign, and share it? Starting here. https://www.change.org/p/change-org-ask-change-org-to-help-protect-the-right-of-petitioners-to-practice-law?recruiter=55138769&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition I just need 5 total signatures to make the petition public.

    Last Post By: amartin315 09-20-2018, 10:10 AM Go to last post
    truthspeaker

    Stop Socialism Memes

    Thread Starter: truthspeaker

    Hey everyone, I know it's been a couple years. I wanted to do a little pre-planning with everyone BEFORE the primary season starts. Our biggest challenge isn't the GOP frontrunner--it's the corrosive mark socialism makes. This is a brainstorming thread. What I propose is that we bookmark this thread and grow it. Every reply to this thread may be a commonly said remark by a socialist...

    Last Post By: kcchiefs6465 09-18-2018, 10:04 PM Go to last post
  • Ron Paul & Rand Paul: News & Discussion

    Brian4Liberty

    What Happened To The Ron Paul Blimp? Ten Years Of Liberty, With Guest Joby Weeks

    Thread Starter: Brian4Liberty

    What Happened To The Ron Paul Blimp? Ten Years Of Liberty, With Guest Joby Weeks On Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/video/hwVpMiFh5WKx/

    Last Post By: TheTexan Yesterday, 08:24 PM Go to last post
    Matt Collins

    Ron Paul coming to Florida this weekend!

    Thread Starter: Matt Collins

    Ron will be speaking in Florida this weekend... here are the details: http://constitutiondaydinner.org

    Last Post By: jkr Yesterday, 11:12 AM Go to last post
    Brian4Liberty

    Russian Plane Shot Down Near Syria - Who's At Fault?

    Thread Starter: Brian4Liberty

    Russian Plane Shot Down Near Syria - Who's At Fault?

    Last Post By: osan 09-20-2018, 12:29 PM Go to last post
    DamianTV

    Ron Paul Rants That Republicans Share The Blame For Socialism's Comeback

    Thread Starter: DamianTV

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-19/ron-paul-rants-republicans-share-blame-socialisms-comeback Republicans are more Facist, Democrats are more Communist. If that is inaccurate, does it really matter? None of them have the best interest of the people in mind.

    Last Post By: bunklocoempire 09-20-2018, 12:14 PM Go to last post
  • General News & Politics

    Itsback

    Google is tracking you. Doing scary things

    Thread Starter: Itsback

    "Do not track" request is enabled in my chrome browser. I have Kaspersky anti-virus link on my website. To check the links, I clicked them. later when I am on other websites I am getting google adsense/ads for Kaspersky. :fist: People who click on Kaspersky from my website, they may buy later, they can click on google ads when they see them on other websites. :fist:

    Last Post By: Itsback Today, 02:10 AM Go to last post
    Itsback

    FBI Director and $100 billion money laundering

    Thread Starter: Itsback

    Former FBI Director James Comey was on the board of directors of HSBC and during the same period of time, HSBC committed fraud/money laundering of $100 billion.

    Last Post By: Itsback Today, 01:55 AM Go to last post
    UWDude

    AJ and Q, Hicks and DJT

    Thread Starter: UWDude

    SO... ...the underground army is being built. Fascinating to watch. Pushing two huge cults apart, only to bring them back together again under the oppression of censorship. Masterful, really. Two very large, yet compartmentalized kook pools have just been formed? No, two shadow paramilitary armies are being formed. DJT is/was "psy-op" target vet christian male via christian female. Hicks...

    Last Post By: Wooden Indian Today, 01:39 AM Go to last post
    Matt Collins

    Cody Wilson charged with sexual assault on a child

    Thread Starter: Matt Collins

    Does anyone actually believe the government? This is the oldest trick in the book. https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/austin-man-behind-3d-printed-gun-company-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-girl-before-leaving-us/269-591851213

    Last Post By: kpitcher Today, 01:13 AM Go to last post
    phill4paul

    Dianne Feinstein Acknowledges Having A Secret Brett Kavanaugh Document

    Thread Starter: phill4paul

    Getting ready to Judge Roy Moore him? https://www.yahoo.com/news/dianne-feinstein-acknowledges-having-secret-170246446.html

    Last Post By: Swordsmyth Today, 12:15 AM Go to last post
    AuH20

    Paypal Terminates Infowars from Their Service

    Thread Starter: AuH20

    The progressive left is a black mark on humanity. You notice how the right doesn't act in such a fashion? https://www.infowars.com/bombshell-paypal-bans-infowars-after-lobbying-by-soros-funded-group/

    Last Post By: UWDude Yesterday, 11:30 PM Go to last post
    Swordsmyth

    "No You Can't" - Broad Coalition Rallying Against Obama Center

    Thread Starter: Swordsmyth

    Here’s something you don’t see every day: Chicago’s progressive Readeraligned with conservative Breitbart. Both had articles Wednesday slamming the Obama Center to be built in Chicago’s Jackson Park. And everybody in between, it seems, is upset with the proposed center for one reason or another. The community organizer has managed to inspire unusual unity: Fiscal conservatives...

    Last Post By: Swordsmyth Yesterday, 10:55 PM Go to last post
    timosman

    Getting Rid Of Trump ‘Easy’: Neither Impeachment Nor 25th Amendment Required

    Thread Starter: timosman

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/getting-rid-of-trump-easy-neither-impeachment-nor_us_58aa697ae4b0b0e1e0e20d2e

    Last Post By: Aratus Yesterday, 09:31 PM Go to last post
    Peace Piper

    Joe Rogan interviews Tulsi Gabbard

    Thread Starter: Peace Piper

    "Think about how counterproductive our acting as the world's police has been" Tulsi Gabbard ‏Verified account @TulsiGabbard The Constitution gives Congress the exclusive responsibility to declare war. The last time it did? 1941. Ever since, Congress has ceded this power to the President and it has cost us dearly. Support my resolution to end Presidential wars #HR922...

    Last Post By: Swordsmyth Yesterday, 08:47 PM Go to last post
    Swordsmyth

    Rod Rosenstein Suggested Secretly Recording Trump and Discussed 25th Amendment

    Thread Starter: Swordsmyth

    The deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, suggested last year that he secretly record President Trump in the White House to expose the chaos consuming the administration, and he discussed recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Mr. Trump from office for being unfit. Mr. Rosenstein made the remarks about secretly recording Mr. Trump and about the 25th...

    Last Post By: Aratus Yesterday, 08:47 PM Go to last post
  • Gold Price Chart

    [Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]
  • Silver Price Chart

  • Economics News & Discussion

    goldenequity

    'EveryDay Tariff Prices!' 4 U :)

    Thread Starter: goldenequity

    Walmart Warns It Will Be Forced To Raise Prices Due To Trade War https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-21/walmart-warns-it-will-be-forced-raise-prices-due-trade-war

    Last Post By: specsaregood Yesterday, 11:30 PM Go to last post
    r3volution 3.0

    US Budget Deficit Swells to $898 Billion

    Thread Starter: r3volution 3.0

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-13/u-s-budget-deficit-swells-to-898-billion-topping-forecast

    Last Post By: dannno Yesterday, 10:15 AM Go to last post
    timosman

    Netflix Fires PR Chief After Use of N-Word in Meeting

    Thread Starter: timosman

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/jonathan-friedland-exits-netflix-1122675

    Last Post By: timosman 09-20-2018, 11:48 PM Go to last post
    Smaulgld

    WHAT’S UP AT THE U.S. MINT AND SILVER EAGLE SALES?

    Thread Starter: Smaulgld

    https://https://smaulgld.com/whats-up-at-the-u-s-mint-and-silver-eagle-sales/

    Last Post By: Aratus 09-19-2018, 01:26 PM Go to last post
  • Bitcoin Price Chart

  • Living Free and Healthy

    donnay

    When Pharmaceutical, Vaccine and Medical Device Corporations Rule the World’s Healthcare Indus

    Thread Starter: donnay

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/when-pharmaceutical-vaccine-and-medical-device-corporations-rule-the-worlds-healthcare-industries-too-late-it-already-happened/5654495

    Last Post By: RonZeplin Yesterday, 06:52 PM Go to last post
    Danke

    It is gonna be a cold winter.

    Thread Starter: Danke

    This fall the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief Oyarde if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a chief in a modern society, he’d never learned the old tribal secrets. He couldn’t look at the sky to predict what the winter was going to be like. "It's going to be a very cold winter." So just to be on the safe side, Oyarde told his tribe that the...

    Last Post By: oyarde 09-19-2018, 10:35 PM Go to last post
    donnay

    Scientists document at the anti-obesity effects of tomato and broccoli

    Thread Starter: donnay

    https://naturalnews.com/2018-09-16-scientists-document-anti-obesity-effects-of-tomato-and-broccoli.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

    Last Post By: VIDEODROME 09-19-2018, 05:58 PM Go to last post
    Created4

    Harvard Medical Professor Calls Coconut Oil “Pure Poison”

    Thread Starter: Created4

    The fact that the medical system and the U.S. government diet police (USDA and FDA) are very upset that Americans are eating more coconut oil is very obvious. They are trying hard to sway public opinion, using the corporate-sponsored “mainstream” media. The corporate-sponsored “mainstream” media, funded in large part by the pharmaceutical industry, is promoting a lecture given in German by...

    Last Post By: donnay 09-19-2018, 03:09 PM Go to last post
  • Education & Thought Power

    uncharted

    Asia - Recommended readings?

    Thread Starter: uncharted

    Currently, my primary interests in regards to Asia include: Opium Wars Chinese Imperial Examinations Civil Service Examinations (British India) British East India Company Caste System Mahatma Gandhi Christianity (ex: Attempted conversions in India, anti-Christian movements, Christian missionaries China, etc.) - Gandhi: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your...

    Last Post By: AZJoe Yesterday, 07:57 PM Go to last post
    euphemia

    Let's Make America America Again

    Thread Starter: euphemia

    If you want to go back to watch Scott Baio's speech, you can. It was only about four and a half minutes. He concluded with the line, "Let's make America America again." This is a sentence that makes me want to ask, "What is America?" If our Founding Fathers were here today and scripting a return to America, what would that look like to you?

    Last Post By: Swordsmyth Yesterday, 05:59 PM Go to last post
    TheDrakeMan

    Modern Day Stoicism?

    Thread Starter: TheDrakeMan

    Anyone interested in stoicism? I became interested after reading this article by William B. Irvine: Article source: boingboing.net/2010/10/27/twenty-first-century-2.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0195374614/boingboing

    Last Post By: AZJoe Yesterday, 05:24 PM Go to last post
    timosman

    Deep State as the natural state of the State.

    Thread Starter: timosman

    Poll attached.

    Last Post By: Swordsmyth Yesterday, 04:18 PM Go to last post
  • Follow us on Twitter! Like us on Facebook! Subscribe to our top news RSS Feed! New! Subscribe to us on YouTube!