• Latest mass shooting again proves Ron Paul's blowback theory.



    At 2:19 from the shooter:

    Oh American, people.

    I'm not against you for being American.

    I don't hate you because of your freedoms.

    I hate you because because every day you are supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity.

    I am against evil and America, as a whole, has turned into a nation of evil. What I see from America is the supporting of Israel which is the invasion of Muslim countrie, I see invasion of many countries by its troops, I see cruise missiles, cluster bombs and UAV.


    Hmmmm..





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    1. CCTelander's Avatar
      CCTelander -
      Why do you hate America?
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Bring the troops home, end the endless wars, use them to secure OUR borders to keep revenge seeking jihadists and failed communists OUT.

      "The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked." - Ron Paul's Presidential Campaign 2008
    1. Sammy's Avatar
      Sammy -
      We need to bring all our troops home & secure our southern border & we should stop Muslim Immigration into our country.
      Most Muslims cannot assimilate into western culture! Good example is europe!
    1. Brian4Liberty's Avatar
      Brian4Liberty -
      Move along. Nothing to see here. Somebody lift up the rug so they can sweep this under.
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
      Move along. Nothing to see here. Somebody lift up the rug so they can sweep this under.
      Bingo...doesn't fit the narrative.

      Will be gone and forgotten in a day or two.
    1. juleswin's Avatar
      juleswin -
      If the theory was correct, it would be the Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Yemenis, Venezuelans, Russians doing most of the shooting. This one mass shooting could easily be considered an outlier. Also, as someone who believes 9/11 is an inside job, how can u say that Ron was right about blowback? he made his theory on the grounds that the Saudis attacked us when they did not. The neocon Zionists in our country attacked us and I can't remember the US being anything but accommodating to them.
    1. Anti Globalist's Avatar
      Anti Globalist -
      Can't wait to see the medias spin on the shooters comments.
    1. Ender's Avatar
      Ender -
      Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
      If the theory was correct, it would be the Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Yemenis, Venezuelans, Russians doing most of the shooting. This one mass shooting could easily be considered an outlier. Also, as someone who believes 9/11 is an inside job, how can u say that Ron was right about blowback? he made his theory on the grounds that the Saudis attacked us when they did not. The neocon Zionists in our country attacked us and I can't remember the US being anything but accommodating to them.
      No- Ron made his theory on us taking over Afghanistan & Iraq.

      After the initial shock of 911 wore off, I am sure he knew exactly what was up. Even me as a kid knew something was suspicious with the 911 BS when troops didn't surround the US borders to stop further attacks. That told me immediately that TPTB were not afraid of more "terrorists" & that it was a ruse.

      Ron telling the world that the PA was immediately signed in, with nobody reading it, confirmed my suspicions.
    1. jmdrake's Avatar
      jmdrake -
      Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
      If the theory was correct, it would be the Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Yemenis, Venezuelans, Russians doing most of the shooting. This one mass shooting could easily be considered an outlier. Also, as someone who believes 9/11 is an inside job, how can u say that Ron was right about blowback? he made his theory on the grounds that the Saudis attacked us when they did not. The neocon Zionists in our country attacked us and I can't remember the US being anything but accommodating to them.
      When did we bomb Russia or Venezuela?

      Also being a 9/11 truther and subscribing to the blowback theory are not mutually exclusive. Are you aware of the admitted facts behind the 1993 WTC bombing? Some of the terrorists were of the "blowback" variety whereas the man who made the bomb was an FBI informant.

      Please watch:

    1. juleswin's Avatar
      juleswin -
      Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
      When did we bomb Russia or Venezuela?

      Also being a 9/11 truther and subscribing to the blowback theory are not mutually exclusive. Are you aware of the admitted facts behind the 1993 WTC bombing? Some of the terrorists were of the "blowback" variety whereas the man who made the bomb was an FBI informant.

      Please watch:

      Lets see, we have put painful sanctions of Venezuela and Russia which Ron believes is an act of war and with the case of Venezuela, we attack an embargo where we try to seize ships coming to their ports. That should cause some blow back from those countries if that is how it happens.

      I just watched the clip and it seems like the FBI bombed the building.
    1. jmdrake's Avatar
      jmdrake -
      Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
      Lets see, we have put painful sanctions of Venezuela and Russia which Ron believes is an act of war and with the case of Venezuela, we attack an embargo where we try to seize ships coming to their ports. That should cause some blow back from those countries if that is how it happens.
      That's a whole different level of provocation. We've had crippling sanctions on Iran for God knows how long. When's the last time an Iranian went on shooting rampage at a U.S. military base? But start actually bombing Iran and see what happens.

      I just watched the clip and it seems like the FBI bombed the building.
      The FBI was most certainly involved. But not everyone involved was an FBI informant. That's why the informant said "I told you let me use harmless powder." His though was he wanted a sting operation. The FBI wanted a real bombing.
    1. juleswin's Avatar
      juleswin -
      Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
      That's a whole different level of provocation. We've had crippling sanctions on Iran for God knows how long. When's the last time an Iranian went on shooting rampage at a U.S. military base? But start actually bombing Iran and see what happens.
      The point I am trying to make is this, if blowback exists the way Ron would like us to believe, we would have seen attacks from those countries I listed plus Iran, Sudan Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua etc etc but we don't. Btw, the US has never ever bombed Saudi Arabia or sanctioned them so why are they bombing us while nobody from any of those countries are attacking us.



      Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
      The FBI was most certainly involved. But not everyone involved was an FBI informant. That's why the informant said "I told you let me use harmless powder." His though was he wanted a sting operation. The FBI wanted a real bombing.
      The fact that pasties exist doesn't prove the blowback theory. Hate to go against Ron but I have yet to see this evidence of blowback. The terrorist supporting Saudi govt most likely proving a patsy is not enough to make me a believer. Another possibility is that maybe the Saudis with their Wahhabi version of Islam is just prone to violence than any other group of people. They sent loads of fighters to attack Syria and Libya and they did nothing to them.
    1. TheCount's Avatar
      TheCount -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
      Bring the troops home, end the endless wars, use them to secure OUR borders to keep revenge seeking jihadists and failed communists OUT.
      Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
      We need to bring all our troops home & secure our southern border & we should stop Muslim Immigration into our country.
      Most Muslims cannot assimilate into western culture! Good example is europe!

      This guy was not an immigrant. His presence on a military base has nothing to do with borders, wars, troop presence overseas, or Islam.
    1. jmdrake's Avatar
      jmdrake -
      Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
      The point I am trying to make is this, if blowback exists the way Ron would like us to believe, we would have seen attacks from those countries I listed plus Iran, Sudan Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua etc etc but we don't. Btw, the US has never ever bombed Saudi Arabia or sanctioned them so why are they bombing us while nobody from any of those countries are attacking us.
      We haven't bombed Sudan since Clinton. We never bombed Cuba. We've not bombed Bolivia. We haven't bombed Nicaragua. Ron never said that every time we sanctioned a country the results = blowback. Straw man argument on your part. Saudi Arabia is the spiritual center of Sunni Islam. Saudis tend to see attacks on Sunni Islam as an attack on them.


      The fact that pasties exist doesn't prove the blowback theory. Hate to go against Ron but I have yet to see this evidence of blowback.
      Try to keep up with your own argument. You claimed that I couldn't believe in blowback and that 9/11 was an inside job at the same time. The fact that there were patsies and a proven FBI informant in the same terror attack proves your counterclaim to be wrong.

      The terrorist supporting Saudi govt most likely proving a patsy is not enough to make me a believer. Another possibility is that maybe the Saudis with their Wahhabi version of Islam is just prone to violence than any other group of people. They sent loads of fighters to attack Syria and Libya and they did nothing to them.
      Syria and Libya are fronts on the ongoing Shia/Sunni civil war that he have no business being involved in but we are anyway. And Syria and Libya were at peace prior to our interference in those countries. A now declassified document from the Obama era proves that the CIA knew that if we funded opposition groups in Syria to try to overthrow Assad the most likely result would be an Islamic State. Guess what happened? We got an Islamic State! Probably the best evidence of blowback ever in the history of the planet. And blowback simply means predicable result of U.S. policy.

      Please read: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...sis-syria-iraq

      And also read: http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-cont...-version11.pdf
    1. jmdrake's Avatar
      jmdrake -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
      Bring the troops home, end the endless wars, use them to secure OUR borders to keep revenge seeking jihadists and failed communists OUT.

      "The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked." - Ron Paul's Presidential Campaign 2008
      Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
      We need to bring all our troops home & secure our southern border & we should stop Muslim Immigration into our country.
      Most Muslims cannot assimilate into western culture! Good example is europe!
      Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
      This guy was not an immigrant. His presence on a military base has nothing to do with borders, wars, troop presence overseas, or Islam.
      True that he wasn't an immigrant. I wouldn't say his presence has nothing to do with wars. He was being trained as a part of our efforts to help the Saudis in their proxy war against Iran.
    1. jon4liberty's Avatar
      jon4liberty -
      Deep state assets. Desperation mode. More false flags coming to try and change narrative
    1. RonZeplin's Avatar
      RonZeplin -
      Donnells peeps, Dancing Wahhabis of Saudi Israel.

    1. TheCount's Avatar
      TheCount -
      Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
      True that he wasn't an immigrant. I wouldn't say his presence has nothing to do with wars. He was being trained as a part of our efforts to help the Saudis in their proxy war against Iran.
      He's being trained because the training comes as part of the sales package when the US sells military equipment to a foreign country.


      You could say that we are selling the Saudis equipment to help them against Iran, but I'm not sure that I believe that. Given the present administration, I believe that it's sales for sales' sake, purely to benefit the MIC and to line the pockets of the administration.
    1. Zippyjuan's Avatar
      Zippyjuan -
      Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
      When did we bomb Russia or Venezuela?

      Also being a 9/11 truther and subscribing to the blowback theory are not mutually exclusive. Are you aware of the admitted facts behind the 1993 WTC bombing? Some of the terrorists were of the "blowback" variety whereas the man who made the bomb was an FBI informant.
      Didn't Reagan bomb Russia?

    1. Zippyjuan's Avatar
      Zippyjuan -
      What was the motive at the other military base shooting this week? Was it blow-back as well? (speaking of already forgotten).


      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...se/2617338001/

      The shooter was a Navy petty officer who had been standing watch when he used a service weapon to kill two civilians and wounded a third, according to a Defense official who was not authorized to speak publicly because the attack is under investigation.

      The shooter, identified as Gabriel Romero, had been facing non-judicial punishment for a minor offense and was considered a disgruntled sailor, the source said.

      It is unclear if he knew the victims and what his motive was, the source said.

      Rear Adm. Robert Chadwick, the commander of Navy Region Hawaii, said he didn’t know the motive behind Wednesday’s incident in which three civilian workers were shot.

      Two of the victims died and the gunman killed himself.


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