• The libertarian movement has no affinity with the Unite the Right Rally

    Restating the Obvious: An Open Letter from the Libertarian Movement

    Today (August 12th, 2017), the “Unite the Right” rally is scheduled to proceed in Charlottesville, VA. The “Right” being united there isn’t just any “Right,” but one that welcomes white supremacists and self-described fascists. Multiple speakers will say this themselves, and the chants at a chaotic pre-event march the night before included Neo-Nazi slogans.

    The purpose of this letter is to clarify the role for libertarianism in this rally – which is no role at all.

    That clarification is necessary because it might appear otherwise. Three of the listed speakers have at one time or another identified as libertarians: Mike Enoch, Augustus Invictus, and Christopher Cantwell. Mike Enoch previously called himself a libertarian, but now mocks the philosophy as “autistic.” Augustus Invictus previously attempted to run for Senate through the Libertarian Party. Recently, though, he publicly changed his registration to Republican in disgust. Christopher Cantwell now seems ambivalent about his relationship with libertarianism and anarchism, but his primary identification is with fascism.

    Regardless of how any speakers or attendees have identified in the past or present, we want to make clear that this event is not in any way a place for libertarianism. Among libertarians, some identify as “right-wing,” some as “left-wing,” and some as “radical centrists.” Virtually the entire outside political spectrum is mirrored within libertarianism, and this makes for no shortage of infighting. One area where the undersigned have consensus, however, is in a rejection of any attempt to connect white supremacy and fascism to libertarianism. Libertarians, including those who see themselves as on “the Right,” have no interest in uniting with the horrifically authoritarian “Right” – often called the “Alt-Right” – rallying in Charlottesville.

    All this should be exceedingly obvious from even a cursory glance at the two movements.

    On a historical note, modern-day libertarianism largely took root in the English-speaking world through Jewish intellectuals, some of whom fled the Nazis. Our movement grew as a revolt against fascism, Communism, and early twentieth-century progressivism. As Thomas Leonard has shown in his Illiberal Reformers, that third enemy’s intellectual history is closely interwoven with eugenics.

    On the level of philosophy, libertarianism stresses the freedom of individuals even when that freedom goes against some supposed collective will. The entire point behind a politics of white supremacy is to replace free association with endless central planning and regulation on collectivist racial grounds. “Unite the Right” speaker Richard Spencer actively seeks to turn the United States into a 100% white ethno-state. It is impossible to conceive of this happening without a return of the total state and its horrors.

    Despite the obvious incompatibility of that totalitarianism and libertarianism (of any kind), an attempted association between the two is unsurprising. Attempts at rebooting authoritarian movements often operate through a tactic called entryism. Entryism is where a smaller political movement attempts to capture a larger one and seize its resources. In cases like fascism and Communism, the tendency towards entryism is probably a joint product of amoral opportunism and an inability to rationally defend their views.

    It is necessary, then, for libertarians to restate the exceedingly obvious and insist on the stark differences between our views and those of anyone with any affinity for National Socialist Germany.

    We, the undersigned, affirm such a gulf between liberty and its opposite.
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    1. NorthCarolinaLiberty's Avatar
      NorthCarolinaLiberty -
      I never heard of this guy, so watched the whole interview. He said the opposition will outnumber them tomorrow at 3-1. The opposition, he said, numbers 5k, while their numbers are 1,000-1,500. Also said there are cops there from the locales, the state, and federal.

      He also said he's been banned from every restaurant in town. LOL, I guess you're making an impact and people are paying attention when that happens.
    1. RonPaulMall's Avatar
      RonPaulMall -
      I think the right can handle 3-1 odds. Unite the Right had about a 25-1 advantage over Antifa tonight. Antifa was rattled:

    1. dannno's Avatar
      dannno -
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    1. dannno's Avatar
      dannno -
      Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
      I think the right can handle 3-1 odds. Unite the Right had about a 25-1 advantage over Antifa tonight. Antifa was rattled:

      Bots can't go to the event, dude.
    1. goldenequity's Avatar
      goldenequity -








      compilation




      march
    1. phill4paul's Avatar
      phill4paul -
      Inevitable push back. I do not wish to see the statues commemorating the Confederacy consigned to the junk heaps. Unfortunately, the battle being fought over them is not truly about them.
    1. goldenequity's Avatar
      goldenequity -
      another paradigm shift for America. A big one.

      I haven't been back to r_Donald since 'Moonbat' was 'liked' to the Top page.
      it was a 'wake the fuuccckkk up' moment for me....
      the 'snowflake' thing was fun for awhile....
      but
      like we we were all taught:
      "It's only fun until someone get's hurt."

      Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/
      You can watch the front page yourself.
      Any denouncement will never get to the front...
      it won't have a chance.
      it's scrubbed before it gets to 'new'.


      The Antifa laughing and mocking post at #7 spot has 2788 likes
      ha. ha. ha.
    1. tod evans's Avatar
      tod evans -
      Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
      another paradigm shift for America. A big one.

      I haven't been back to r_Donald since 'Moonbat' was 'liked' to the Top page.
      it was a 'wake the fuuccckkk up' moment for me....
      the 'snowflake' thing was fun for awhile....
      but
      like we we were all taught:
      "It's only fun until someone get's hurt."

      Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/
      You can watch the front page yourself.
      Any denouncement will never get to the front...
      it won't have a chance.
      it's scrubbed before it gets to 'new'.


      The Antifa laughing and mocking post at #7 spot has 2788 likes
      ha. ha. ha.
      Wut?

      Care to translate for a non-techie who has absolutely no idea what you just typed?
    1. presence's Avatar
      presence -
      Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
      Highest ranking Libertarian representative

      LOL
    1. goldenequity's Avatar
      goldenequity -
      Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
      Wut?
      Care to translate for a non-techie who has absolutely no idea what you just typed?
      Srry. I'm sure danno knows what I just said.

      hmmm.. where to start... what don't you understand?
    1. tod evans's Avatar
      tod evans -
      Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
      Srry. I'm sure danno knows what I just said.

      hmmm.. where to start... what don't you understand?
      Pretty much the whole thing...

      Is it just discussion about another forum or is there something else?
    1. specsaregood's Avatar
      specsaregood -
      Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
      Wut?

      Care to translate for a non-techie who has absolutely no idea what you just typed?
      I'm a techie and I have no idea what that mess was supposed to mean either.
    1. goldenequity's Avatar
      goldenequity -
      I'll just leave it as a toss off/move on post... don't give it another thot.
    1. TheCount's Avatar
      TheCount -
      Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
      Highest ranking Libertarian representative attending the rally, Augustus Invictus, gives a thoughtful interview after the torchlight rally:
      How can he be a Libertarian representative when he ragequit the party and became a Republican after losing his primary by a margin of 50 points?


      Also, did he come to the rally bearing revolution? Still waiting on that.
    1. NorthCarolinaLiberty's Avatar
      NorthCarolinaLiberty -
      Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
      How can he be a Libertarian representative when he ragequit the party and became a Republican after losing his primary by a margin of 50 points?


      Also, did he come to the rally bearing revolution? Still waiting on that.


      How come you're not up with your Antifa progressive friends?
    1. specsaregood's Avatar
      specsaregood -
      there is a live news feed on this page.
      http://wjla.com/news/local/white-nat...statue-removal

      looks like a total circus
    1. juleswin's Avatar
      juleswin -
      Everybody knows how I feel about the Nazi i.e. I don't buy the dumb dumb evil portrayal of them by mainstream historians. But if I would go home immediately if I ever find myself in a rally with people throwing up the Nazi salute.

      Sadly, these people protesting the statue take down are hurting their cause when they try to incorporate anything Nazi to their group.
    1. specsaregood's Avatar
      specsaregood -
      Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
      there is a live news feed on this page.
      http://wjla.com/news/local/white-nat...statue-removal

      looks like a total circus
      smoke cannisters being thrown now
    1. Danke's Avatar
      Danke -
      They need to knock it off with the Nazi salute.
    1. specsaregood's Avatar
      specsaregood -
      Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
      They need to knock it off with the Nazi salute.
      so they should hide who they are?


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