Judge Nap: For the first Time in Modern Era We Have President Who Is Adversary of Deep State

Originally Posted by Judge Nap

For the first time in the modern era we have a President who is an adversary of the Deep State rather than a tool of it.

The Judge nails it as he does pretty much all the damn time.

Originally Posted by AZJoe

Interesting comparison AZJ.

The difference, of course, is that Kennedy was a politician, whereas Trump is(was) not. Trump became wealthy and powerful outside of politics.

Is there an actual definition of "deep state" somewhere (non-wiki) that is generally accepted as it applies to the U.S.?

I think most here recognize that the PTB resides with bankers and controlled by the Federal Reserve. I am assuming that however one defines "deep state" that it operates below the control of the bankers. The bankers are probably OK with Trump (they have some of their key people in his administration), hence his fate is probably not going to be the same as the Kennedys.

the PTB resides with bankers and is controlled by the Federal Reserve. I am assuming that however one defines "deep state" that it operates below the control of the bankers. The bankers are probably OK with Trump (they have some of their key people in his administration), hence his fate is probably not going to be the same as the Kennedys.

...i agree...trump, to my knowledge, has never uttered a cogent repudiation of 'our' hideous monetary order...despite his alleged iq of 152 he appears as clueless as a slow 5th grader regarding this monstrou$ $curge...same with all the numbskulls who voted for/support him and those who voted for/support any of the other numbskulls on the ballot...

...the upcoming 'debt ceiling debate' would be a great time to FINALLY have an honest public di$cussion..but alas 'the media' [and everyone else] operates 'below the banksters'..and the banksters have been thorough in making sure anyone with knowledge and guts is denied the microphone...just republicrat idiot after republicrat idiot working their holes about illion$..absent an honest clue as to the hideous origin and nature of even one!...same old..

...i understand a lot of people like this 'judge napolitano'..i will note i have heard him say many things...but, to my knowledge, he has NEVER uttered a cogent, truly knowledgeble condemnation of this stinking monetary order under which we are en$laved...he appears as yet another cheerleader for the stinking republicans/conservatives who fancies himself some 'libertarian' ...['democrat/liberal bad, republican/conservative not as bad'..vote republican/conservative']...ugh...

Originally Posted by AZJoe

Rather, the CIA splintered Jack's head and scattered it to the back seat.

The correct way to defang the CIA is with troops in a coordinated apprehension and immediate shutdown, warrants in hand on a treason basis. Then immediate rendition to Gitmo and summary mass execution. Anything less and you may as well hang the "shoot me" sign your back.

Short of killing all of the key players in summary fashion, there is no point in even thinking about such things. CIA takes a decidedly grim view of any challenge to their position in the scheme of things. Any such interactions are perforce of the "kill or be killed" variety. In for a penny, in for the treasury because half-measures = death. Even full-monty is ultimately risky.

Originally Posted by Created4

Interesting comparison AZJ.

The difference, of course, is that Kennedy was a politician, whereas Trump is(was) not. Trump became wealthy and powerful outside of politics.

Is there an actual definition of "deep state" somewhere (non-wiki) that is generally accepted as it applies to the U.S.?

I think most here recognize that the PTB resides with bankers and controlled by the Federal Reserve. I am assuming that however one defines "deep state" that it operates below the control of the bankers. The bankers are probably OK with Trump (they have some of their key people in his administration), hence his fate is probably not going to be the same as the Kennedys.

Kennedy was a playboy who woke up- we all know the consequences of that.

Originally Posted by juleswin

This man is chipping away at the very little credibility he has left. This is way too early for anyone to be making such declarations about Trump. Sad that he has drank the koolaid of this new president.

Chipping away at the very little credibility he has left? Drank the koolaid?

Originally Posted by loveshiscountry

When he had his show Freedom Watch we saw a lot more of him.

...see this is what i mean..at around 1min. 16 sec. the republican-cheerleading monetary ignoramus/mythologist, 'judge nap,' asks rhetorically [and ignorantly], 'So why is it that people who advocate for a free market in everyhing else don't support a free market in money? Ask yourself why we don't allow the government to set the price of shoes or bread or chocolate but we do allow the government to determine the price or the value of money...."

....napsters and other republicrat monetary ignoramuses, i refer you to art 1, sec. 8, clause 5 of the very constitution about which judge nap frequently bloviates:...[The Congress shall have Power] To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Nap should be on the SCOTUS or AG.

Gotta love Lou Dobbs.

Say what you will about Trump. I did not consider him an acceptable candidate. But this nasty stuff is finally becoming main stream. And it's hugely significant. It's almost like we got Cynthia McKinney as President. Could do a HELL of a lot worse.

Originally Posted by Ender

Kennedy was a playboy who woke up- we all know the consequences of that.

Agreed. Looks like this was the case.

Originally Posted by Zippyjuan

Trump has certainly filled his cabinet with the usual generals, insiders, and Wall Streeters. Actually he has more of them than usual. He isn't opposed to the old guard- he has many of them working for him. Every president promises change. Reagan, (GW Bush was pretty much a continuation of Reagan), Clinton, Bush, Obama. They were going to create more jobs, be friends with Russia, end wars, cut taxes. Get tough on immigration.

Respectfully, you may be lumping Trump into a community of yes men where it is not a very good analogy. For better or worse, Trump appears to be going completely rogue. This is rather unique.

Originally Posted by juleswin

What I am trying to say is that the man has jumped the shark. He is behaving like we haven't been through this before. A man comes onto the stage, makes promises on how he is different from everybody else then says something radical while his actions are in line with the people who he has denounced on his way to the throne. This story has been played out a 100x over, a more sensible person would hold off his praises until he actually impresses him with actions.

Also, I don't have any heros or heroines in the life anymore apart from my parents, nobody else gets a pass from me. I would use the same level of scrutiny when assessing their work and action that I reserve for people like McCain and Bush.

He has met personally with Trump on several occasions and has had long, private discussions with the man. The Judge is a great guy. Infallible? No, but if this is what he thinks people here should take it seriously.

He might not be right, but I would suggest you guys hedge yourself more because he has a lot better insight into the man than you or cpud does..

Originally Posted by anaconda

Respectfully, you may be lumping Trump into a community of yes men where it is not a very good analogy. For better or worse, Trump appears to be going completely rogue. This is rather unique.

ah yes Rogue that's why he let the neocon Pence get installed as VP. That's why he is promoting the House GOP bill. That's why he has locked up Hillary Clinton. That's why he has drained the swamp. That's why he has brought all the troops home from overseas. That's why he told the congress he would not sign any spending bills that do not balance the budget. That's why he said he wouldn't sign anything raising the debt ceiling.