• Judge Nap: For the first Time in Modern Era We Have President Who Is Adversary of Deep State


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    1. CPUd's Avatar
      CPUd -
      He'll bring those troops home just as soon as they wipe out ISIS, hopefully.
    1. Ender's Avatar
      Ender -
      I love the Judge but I do not agree with his POV on Trump.

      Time will tell..........
    1. loveshiscountry's Avatar
      loveshiscountry -
      Quote Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui View Post
      ...see this is what i mean..at around 1min. 16 sec. the republican-cheerleading monetary ignoramus/mythologist, 'judge nap,' asks rhetorically [and ignorantly], 'So why is it that people who advocate for a free market in everyhing else don't support a free market in money? Ask yourself why we don't allow the government to set the price of shoes or bread or chocolate but we do allow the government to determine the price or the value of money...."

      ....napsters and other republicrat monetary ignoramuses, i refer you to art 1, sec. 8, clause 5 of the very constitution about which judge nap frequently bloviates:...[The Congress shall have Power] To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
      Congress not the Federal Reserve.
      Coin. Isn't it about the value of the metal in the actual coin and not about paper money?
    1. UWDude's Avatar
      UWDude -
      Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
      This man is chipping away at the very little credibility he has left. This is way too early for anyone to be making such declarations about Trump. Sad that he has drank the koolaid of this new president.
      Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling…makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another, I’d rather not choose at all. Geralt of Rivia

      Also, I don't have any heros or heroines in the life anymore apart from my parents, nobody else gets a pass from me. I would use the same level of scrutiny when assessing their work and action that I reserve for people like McCain and Bush.
      But I am quoting a video game character, as if it is relevant to real life.

      He has met personally with Trump on several occasions and has had long, private discussions with the man. The Judge is a great guy. Infallible? No, but if this is what he thinks people here should take it seriously.
      Ron Paul and themselves are the only people half the people here think are qualified ot be president.
      And interesting thread was when I asked member who they would install into cabinet positions.
      It was frankly a pathetic display of how many here know how to do nothing but complain, without even having any real world solutions.
    1. Ender's Avatar
      Ender -
      Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
      Congress not the Federal Reserve.
      Coin. Isn't it about the value of the metal in the actual coin and not about paper money?
      No.

      A dollar used to be backed by gold plus there was no fractional banking until the FED. A paper dollar was backed by gold.

      Also- metal in the coins of today is pretty worthless. The most valuable coin is actually the nickle, which is still worth more than 5 cents.
    1. loveshiscountry's Avatar
      loveshiscountry -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      No.

      A dollar used to be backed by gold plus there was no fractional banking until the FED. A paper dollar was backed by gold.

      Also- metal in the coins of today is pretty worthless. The most valuable coin is actually the nickle, which is still worth more than 5 cents.
      I was talking about back in the day, the founders intentions.
    1. Ender's Avatar
      Ender -
      Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
      I was talking about back in the day, the founders intentions.
      Paper dollars were around then and were still backed by gold.
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    1. juleswin's Avatar
      juleswin -
      Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
      He has met personally with Trump on several occasions and has had long, private discussions with the man. The Judge is a great guy. Infallible? No, but if this is what he thinks people here should take it seriously.

      He might not be right, but I would suggest you guys hedge yourself more because he has a lot better insight into the man than you or cpud does..
      Talk is cheap, I think trump is taking the naive judge for a ride. You put yourself and your reputation at risk by saying something this extreme just 3 months into his presidency. His statement may end up to be true but he doesn't really have any concrete evidence backing him up.

      I am hedging myself when it comes to Trump, the memory of calling the elections wrong is still fresh in my memory. I think he would be a sh*t president but I would hold off on my criticisms until he says or does something stupid. With him saying something stupid, I would take his word for it as opposed to when he says something good. At that point I will wait for the evidence of follow through action before praising him
    1. CPUd's Avatar
      CPUd -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      No.

      A dollar used to be backed by gold plus there was no fractional banking until the FED. A paper dollar was backed by gold.

      Also- metal in the coins of today is pretty worthless. The most valuable coin is actually the nickle, which is still worth more than 5 cents.
      those coins are being hoarded by oyarde. Pick up some colonial scrip instead.
    1. loveshiscountry's Avatar
      loveshiscountry -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      Paper dollars were around then and were still backed by gold.
      Paper dollars were not government deemed legal tender for private debts. Although I'm sure it was used as such by individuals.
      Backed by gold. Ease of exchange with paper, that's all.
    1. Ender's Avatar
      Ender -
      Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
      Paper dollars were not government deemed legal tender for private debts. Although I'm sure it was used as such by individuals.
      Backed by gold. Ease of exchange with paper, that's all.
      On February 3, 1690, the Massachusetts Bay Colony issued the first paper money in the U.S., in order to pay for its war. Massachusetts was a truly pioneering colony when it came to money. They were also the first to mint their own silver coins in 1652, despite a British law against it. The paper money created in 1690 was called a bill of credit, and represented the colony's obligation to the soldiers. The soldiers could spend/trade the colony's IOU just like silver and gold coins.

      During the revolution of 1775, the colonial leaders tried to repeat Massachusetts' paper experiment on a wider scale, but the newly christened continentals lacked any backing, such as silver or gold. On a small scale it may have worked, but so much money was printed that rapid inflation stripped them of all their value.

      Less than 100 years later, two competing currencies were used to finance the opposing sides of the Civil War. Their values fluctuated with the fortunes of war. It wasn't until the National Banks Act after the civil war that the U.S. government introduced a monetary system where banks could issue paper notes based on their holding of government bonds. These disparate currencies were taxed out of existence in the following decades and replaced with national bank notes, giving the U.S. its first uniform paper currency.

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      KEEF -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      On February 3, 1690, the Massachusetts Bay Colony issued the first paper money in the U.S., in order to pay for its war. Massachusetts was a truly pioneering colony when it came to money. They were also the first to mint their own silver coins in 1652, despite a British law against it. The paper money created in 1690 was called a bill of credit, and represented the colony's obligation to the soldiers. The soldiers could spend/trade the colony's IOU just like silver and gold coins.

      During the revolution of 1775, the colonial leaders tried to repeat Massachusetts' paper experiment on a wider scale, but the newly christened continentals lacked any backing, such as silver or gold. On a small scale it may have worked, but so much money was printed that rapid inflation stripped them of all their value.

      Less than 100 years later, two competing currencies were used to finance the opposing sides of the Civil War. Their values fluctuated with the fortunes of war. It wasn't until the National Banks Act after the civil war that the U.S. government introduced a monetary system where banks could issue paper notes based on their holding of government bonds. These disparate currencies were taxed out of existence in the following decades and replaced with national bank notes, giving the U.S. its first uniform paper currency.

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      +1 Thanks for the history lesson, love to learn!

      I just need to spread some rep around first. Could someone hook him up for me?
    1. loveshiscountry's Avatar
      loveshiscountry -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
      On February 3, 1690, the Massachusetts Bay Colony issued the first paper money in the U.S., in order to pay for its war. Massachusetts was a truly pioneering colony when it came to money. They were also the first to mint their own silver coins in 1652, despite a British law against it. The paper money created in 1690 was called a bill of credit, and represented the colony's obligation to the soldiers. The soldiers could spend/trade the colony's IOU just like silver and gold coins.

      During the revolution of 1775, the colonial leaders tried to repeat Massachusetts' paper experiment on a wider scale, but the newly christened continentals lacked any backing, such as silver or gold. On a small scale it may have worked, but so much money was printed that rapid inflation stripped them of all their value.

      Less than 100 years later, two competing currencies were used to finance the opposing sides of the Civil War. Their values fluctuated with the fortunes of war. It wasn't until the National Banks Act after the civil war that the U.S. government introduced a monetary system where banks could issue paper notes based on their holding of government bonds. These disparate currencies were taxed out of existence in the following decades and replaced with national bank notes, giving the U.S. its first uniform paper currency.

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      We are talking Federal as well as the united states.
      The confederate currency wasn't taxed out of existence. People didn't want it as it had no value.
    1. enhanced_deficit's Avatar
      enhanced_deficit -
      If this is confirmed, Trump could face more attacks from the deep end.
    1. UWDude's Avatar
      UWDude -
      Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
      Chipping away at the very little credibility he has left? Drank the koolaid?
      Wow. Trump is a lithmus test. Throw away Napolitano.
    1. UWDude's Avatar
      UWDude -
      Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
      Talk is cheap, I think trump is taking the naive judge for a ride. You put yourself and your reputation at risk by saying something this extreme just 3 months into his presidency. His statement may end up to be true but he doesn't really have any concrete evidence backing him up.

      I am hedging myself when it comes to Trump, the memory of calling the elections wrong is still fresh in my memory. I think he would be a sh*t president but I would hold off on my criticisms until he says or does something stupid. With him saying something stupid, I would take his word for it as opposed to when he says something good. At that point I will wait for the evidence of follow through action before praising him
      If Trump fails, it's GG. He has already been wounded by the big Russia lie. Very well planned propaganda campaign, by the way. It demonized Russia any way you cut it, and made it very difficult for Trump to negotiate with Russia without howls of "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO! I TOLD YOU SO! HE IS IS IN LEAGUE WITH THE RUSSIANS!" Because he should be. Putin is one of the very few adults left in a world of clowns, aka entertainers aka actors aka professional politicians.

      Some just cant see the propaganda campaigns, and their aims. When you see propaganda, it will clearly spell out the objective for you eventually. War pigs want war. Big war, big bloody billion buck battles.

      United States has been on a bloody and wreckless, and ultimately doomed path for 70 years. I find it hard to believe we can avoid pain. Live by the sword, die by the sword, and all that.
    1. CPUd's Avatar
      CPUd -
      1000% CIA support confirmed

      Trump Gave CIA Power to Launch Drone Strikes

      New authority departs from Obama-era policy under which only the Pentagon conducted the operations

      WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump has given the Central Intelligence Agency secret new authority to conduct drone strikes against suspected terrorists, U.S. officials said, changing the Obama administration’s policy of limiting the spy agency’s paramilitary role and reopening a turf war between the agency and the Pentagon.

      The new authority, which hadn’t been previously disclosed, represents a significant departure from a cooperative approach that had become standard practice by the end of former President Barack Obama’s tenure: The CIA used drones and other intelligence resources to locate suspected terrorists and then the military conducted the actual strike. The U.S. drone strike that killed Taliban leader Mullah Mansour in May 2016 in Pakistan was the best example of that hybrid approach, U.S. officials said.

      The Obama administration put the military in charge of pulling the trigger to promote transparency and accountability. The CIA, which operates under covert authorities, wasn’t required to disclose the number of suspected terrorists or civilian bystanders it killed in drone strikes. The Pentagon, however, must publicly report most airstrikes.

      Mr. Trump has indicated he wants to accelerate the fight against Islamic State and other militant groups. The CIA first used its new authority in late February in a strike on a senior al Qaeda leader in Syria, Abu al-Khayr al-Masri, U.S. officials said. The strike in northern Syria on Mr. Masri, a son-in-law of the late al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, had been reported, but it wasn’t previously known that the CIA had carried it out under the new authority. U.S. officials are still assessing results of the strike.

      Spokesmen for the Pentagon and the CIA declined to comment.

      While U.S. officials said Mr. Trump’s action specifically applied to the CIA’s ability to operate in Syria, it means the agency eventually could become empowered under Mr. Trump to once again conduct covert strikes in other places where the U.S. is targeting militants in Yemen, Libya, Somalia and elsewhere.

      Syria may not be the only place where the CIA is now authorized to conduct drone strikes. Earlier this month, a U.S. drone reportedly targeted two men in a village in Pakistan near the border with Afghanistan. The Defense Department didn’t acknowledge conducting the operation, as it typically would.

      Whether the CIA’s new authority might expand remains unclear. The CIA, the Pentagon and the White House are negotiating a longer-term approach to conducting counterterrorism operations and determining who has the authority to do what, U.S. officials said.

      Mr. Trump provided the authority to the CIA not long after meeting with intelligence officials at the agency headquarters on Jan. 21, the day after he was inaugurated, the U.S. officials said. Mr. Trump’s nominee for director of the CIA, Mike Pompeo, had yet to be confirmed.

      A White House spokesman declined to comment.

      The Trump administration is also giving the military more authority to conduct operations on its own without first getting a signoff from the Pentagon or the White House.

      The new president’s unexpected decision to give the CIA the strike authority created ferment inside the U.S. government within days of his visit, as U.S. military officials scrambled to respond to the new directive, according to the U.S. officials.

      Mr. Trump’s new policy is sure to reignite the debate over targeted killing. Human rights groups believe the Defense Department, with its culture and legal requirement to be more publicly transparent and accountable, is where drone operations should be rooted.

      “There are a lot of problems with the drone program and the targeted killing program, but the CIA should be out of the business of ordering lethal strikes,” said Christopher Anders, deputy director of the Washington office of the American Civil Liberties Union.

      Mr. Anders said the Pentagon should be used for such strikes because it is more publicly accountable to policy makers, members of Congress and the American public.

      “It does not mean the CIA cannot have a role in assisting in the use of force in locating targets, but that decision on whether to strike or not to strike and that order should be coming from through the military chain of command,” he said. “The CIA should be a foreign intelligence gathering and analysis organization—not a paramilitary one.”

      Under pressure by the ACLU, other human rights groups and others, Mr. Obama in 2013 began to push for more drone operations to be conducted by the Defense Department.

      But the efforts to move those operations to the Defense Department ran into problems—a combination of interagency squabbling, budgetary competition and bureaucratic inertia.

      Some members of Congress also resisted the effort to move drone operations into the sunlight. Members of the intelligence and armed services committees in the House and Senate traditionally have been eager to maintain their separate oversight of drone operations.

      Members of the intelligence committees, for example, generally favor a paramilitary CIA role, and believe they are best positioned to conduct oversight of secret operations, while members of the armed services committees argue the military should control the mission.

      In the meantime, Mr. Trump’s move has fueled the competition that exists between the CIA and Pentagon over conducting lethal counterterrorism operations, according to the U.S. officials.

      Both agencies take steps to determine the validity of targets before striking. When it comes to vetting targets, the CIA uses a higher, or “near certainty,” standard, while the Defense Department relies on “reasonable certainty” in war zones, though it adheres to the higher standard when operating elsewhere.

      As a result, providing more authority to the CIA to conduct strikes could undermine Mr. Trump’s directive to accelerate the fight against Islamic State, al Qaeda and other militant groups because the CIA is thought to be more deliberative in its process, according to current and former U.S. officials.

      It is also possible, however, that the pace of strikes could increase as the CIA is given a freer hand to operate on its own and not rely on the military to conduct a strike.
      https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-g...kes-1489444374
    1. H. E. Panqui's Avatar
      H. E. Panqui -
      Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
      Congress not the Federal Reserve.
      Coin. Isn't it about the value of the metal in the actual coin and not about paper money?
      ...'the legal value' of the metal/gold 'dollar' or 'dollar of gold' is declared by 'fiat'...just like 'the paper dollar,' 'the digital dollar,' etc.,..

      ...but again, one very important point NEVER honestly discussed by republicrats is 'WHO GETS TO USE ANY NEWLY-CREATED MONEY IN THE FIRST ROUND OF SPENDING' (hint for republicrats, etc. assorted monetary ignoramuses and mythologists: ...getting to use the money in 'the first round of spending' and having exclu$ive in$ide information as to the future condition of the money supply, etc., is a $weet gig for 'the bankster$'..)

      ...as one wag put it, "If Congress has the right under the constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations."

      ...merely declaring 'gold as money' or 'going back'
      to some mythical 'gold standard' will result in the population MORE drained by the fang of vampiric bankster$ and their bizarre and demonic puppet$ galore....

      ...what drew me to ron paul as much as anything was his apparent desire for COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY regarding 'government'...and i will vociferously contend that the original issuance of 'money' is 'the supreme prerogative of TRANSPARENT 'government,' NOT SECRET-SQUIRREL BANKSTERS'..
    1. Mordan's Avatar
      Mordan -
      most people here complaining are old anarchists. Like the left, they will criticize Trump for not doing enough.

      How can Trump take head on the federal reserve????? Half the country including some libertarians are adamant Trump is a Putin puppet.

      Trump's cabinet is very friendly to Bitcoin, the closest we have for Competing Currencies. Even Ron Paul acknowledged that recently in a Youtube video.

      I sit and enjoy Trump. He will be the greatest president. The fact he has to earn it by having half the country and 90% of the media against him, solidify his legend. Take a look at youtube videos about how Trump won against all odds.


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