• Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence

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    Secessionists formally launch quest for California's independence

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/esse...htmlstory.html

    Supporters of a plan for California to secede from the union took their first formal step Monday morning, submitting a proposed ballot measure to the state attorney general’s office in the hopes of a statewide vote as soon as 2018.

    Marcus Ruiz Evans, the vice president and co-founder of Yes California, said his group had been planning to wait for a later election, but the presidential election of Donald Trump sped up the timeline.

    “We’re doing it now because of all of the overwhelming attention,” Evans said.

    The Yes California group has been around for more than two years, Evans said. It is based around California taxpayers paying more money to the federal government than the state receives in spending, that Californians are culturally different from the rest of the country, and that national media and organizations routinely criticize Californians for being out of step with the rest of the U.S.

    The attorney general’s office will give the ballot measure a title and summary, and Evans said he hopes to begin collecting signatures to get it on the ballot in the spring. Qualifying ballot measures typically requires significant resources to pay signature gatherers, and Yes California doesn’t have major financial backing. But Evans said 13,000 people have volunteered to collect signatures.

    “This is real,” Evans said. “We treat it seriously.”

    Various groups have made noise about California forming its own country in the wake of Trump’s election this month, most prominently Silicon Valley financier Shervin Pishevar. But similar proposals have dotted the state’s political landscape for years. Yes California has tried and failed previously, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper was not able to get a proposal to split California into six states onto the 2016 ballot.


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    1. The Northbreather's Avatar
      The Northbreather -
      Nor cal better reboot the Jefferson state in a hurry
    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      I will be donating on a regular basis .
    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      If any of you , seriously want to ever bring any greatness to America , support CalExit. Until then , no political greatness may ever be achieved .Those backward degenerates are holding everyone else back with communism , socialism , environmental terrorism , fascist gun stance etc . California is the anti america
    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      be rid of 20 percent of the house democrats ( american communist party ) . Help bring Liberty to the children.
    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      If you do not support CalExit , you hate children .
    1. NorthCarolinaLiberty's Avatar
      NorthCarolinaLiberty -
      And these Cali nutjobs were always laughing at Texas for the same thing.

      Who'd have thunk it.
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
      And these Cali nutjobs were always laughing at Texas for the same thing.

      Who'd have thunk it.
      Yar, all of a sudden secession is not for racists and rednecks but intellectual progressives and being anti war is cool again.

    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      Trump should be proactive and just build the wall around them as well , we can then charge them tolls to enter the new free world .
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
      Trump should be proactive and just build the wall around them as well , we can then charge them tolls to enter the new free world .
      Oyarde has Done Something
    1. GunnyFreedom's Avatar
      GunnyFreedom -
    1. Kords21's Avatar
      Kords21 -
      I'm sure TYT will be along to give California the same treatment they gave Texas

      https://youtu.be/FDomPWLeGuI
    1. Zippyjuan's Avatar
      Zippyjuan -
      Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
      be rid of 20 percent of the house democrats ( american communist party ) . Help bring Liberty to the children.


      California ranks #46 "most dependent" state in terms of federal tax dollars per capita going to it after taxes paid to Washington. (or another way- fourth least dependent state).

      This list has them a bit higher but still near the bottom:

    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


      California ranks #46 "most dependent" state in terms of federal tax dollars per capita going to it after taxes paid to Washington. (or another way- fourth least dependent state).

      This list has them a bit higher but still near the bottom:

      Yeah , I do not care about the money , I want free of the dozens of bad Rep.'s you have .
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by Kords21 View Post
      I'm sure TYT will be along to give California the same treatment they gave Texas

      https://youtu.be/FDomPWLeGuI
      I'm not holding my breath.

    1. otherone's Avatar
      otherone -
      Looking at number one and three, California does not strike me as a state friendly to retirement, versus those where a lot of SS money goes.
    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      Being rid of California Rep.'s makes it possible to repeal tons of bad legislation . The rest of America would prosper in a free economy while they do as they wish. America would absolutely eventually be net positive by being rid of them.
    1. Anti Federalist's Avatar
      Anti Federalist -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
      California ranks #46 "most dependent" state in terms of federal tax dollars per capita going to it after taxes paid to Washington. (or another way- fourth least dependent state).
      Exactly.

      How grossly unfair, to have to pay in all that money into the fedgov and get pennies on the dollar back, the balance to be sent to redneck, backward, bible thumping states full of gun toting yahoos and racist deplorables.

      It is not treason to secede, it is self determination, the cornerstone of human rights, as laid out by the UN and international agreements.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination

      #CalExit Now
    1. seapilot's Avatar
      seapilot -
      Quote Originally Posted by The Northbreather View Post
      Nor cal better reboot the Jefferson state in a hurry
      I support CalExit, they can have everything west of the San Andreas Fault.
    1. oyarde's Avatar
      oyarde -
      Just think of the CalExit paradise . Special weapons and magazines made that hold two shells , called California Special.
    1. Feeding the Abscess's Avatar
      Feeding the Abscess -
      The US government would allow California to secede over its dead body. Far too much economic activity would be lost.


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