Mexico president urges North American integration after Brexit

Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34

Even if we disregard the CONstitutionalist POV and only accept anarchism(my preference, in all disclosure), there would still exist the concept of private property. Do you think the typical private property owner would be okay with trespassers, foreign or domestic? I highly doubt it, as property owners are normally rationally self-interested and thus do not want trespassers on their property. Even the more "liberal" anarchists accept the importance and legitimacy of property boundaries. (See "Boundaries Of Order" https://mises.org/library/boundaries...-social-system by Schaffer and "Privatization Of Roads And Highways" by Block https://mises.org/library/privatizat...s-and-highways)

Being arrested/punished/w.e. for 'trespassing' is much different than being arrested for 'being illegal'.

eta: this action would usually result in the punisher trespassing on the 'illegal person's' property.

Originally Posted by alucard13mm

Congratulations open border proponents =p. We can become the North American Union in no time. Since we don't care about our borders, we might as well merge with Mexico and even Canada. Hell, Canada would be awesome, they have plenty of water we can transport down to the states .

Double Hell, let's just integrate with the entire south American continent as well :3.. We can be the AMERICAN UNION. AU... Au... GOLD!!!

Originally Posted by alucard13mm

If you don't care about your borders, you don't care about your sovereignty. Why have borders in the first place? hehe

Maybe alucard is talking about individual property rights but it sure strikes me as 'American property rights'. My bad if that's not the case.

Originally Posted by LibertyEagle

Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto on Monday called for greater integration with Canada and the United States

Is it true that Sr Pena Nieto's running mate is Bill Weld?

Originally Posted by oyarde

Well , we should have annexed Mexico when it was conquered in 1848 .

Just what America needs… More aborigines to look after.

Originally Posted by erowe1

To be fair, so does Ron Paul.

Originally Posted by Danke

Just what America needs… More aborigines to look after.

If you had done it then , they would not all be commie leaning leftists , those states would be economic powerhouses .Oil , gold , sea food , hydro electric , desalinization etc

Originally Posted by erowe1

To be fair, so does Ron Paul.

Link or

So a man from a 3rd world $#@! heap of a nation wants to join a union that will allow him to better his nation while dragging down a great one..Wow! Who would have thought.

I think we should bring the plan of James k. Polk to compilation.



Just relocate the natives and all will be well. Call it back payment for the cost/burden of illegal immigration.

Yeah, the EU worked out so well that we just had Brexit! EU failed so hard that we should do exactly what they did. Pure. Genius. NOT!

What does he plan to do, export his financial failure?

Originally Posted by DamianTV

Yeah, the EU worked out so well that we just had Brexit! EU failed so hard that we should do exactly what they did. Pure. Genius. NOT!

What does he plan to do, export his financial failure?

Its Mexico, if they were smart it would not be...well you know, Mexico.

Bout time Washington took over Mexico. In recognition it should be renamed Baja Texas and The Texan should be appointed its governor.

Originally Posted by AZJoe

Bout time Washington took over Mexico. In recognition it should be renamed Baja Texas and The Texan should be appointed its governor.

I know you're kidding, but don't even go there. With our welfare state, imagine the effect of doing this. Not to mention the fact that Mexicans tend to favor big government and would be voting thusly.

Let's encourage Mexico to join the SAU (South American Union).

They already all speak the same language (except for Brazil ).

Yeah, sounds like he's all for more internationalist integration.




After ‘Brexit,’ Can We Exit a Few Things Too?

By Ron Paul

Ron Paul Institute

June 28, 2016

Last week’s UK vote to leave the EU may have come as a shock to many, but the sentiment that led British voters to reject rule from Brussels is nothing unique. In fact, it is growing sentiment worldwide. Frustration with politics as usual, with political parties that really do not differ in philosophy, with an economy that serves the one percent at the expense of the rest of society is a growing phenomenon throughout Europe and in the United States as well. The Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump phenomena are but one example of a frustrated public sensing something is very wrong with society and looking for a way out.

What is happening in the UK, in Europe, and in the US, is nothing less than a breakdown of the entire system. The EU was meant to be a customs union where post-World War II Western Europe could rebuild itself through free trade and a reduction in bureaucracy. Through corruption and political ambition, it became an unelected bully government in Brussels, where the well-connected were well compensated and insulated from the votes of mere citizens.

Whatever happens in the near future – and it is certainly not assured that the vote to “Brexit” will actually end in the UK’s departure from the EU – a line has been crossed that supporters of more personal liberty should celebrate. Rule from London is preferable to liberty-minded Britons than rule from Brussels. Just as Texans should prefer rule from Austin to rule from Washington. That doesn’t make either option perfect, just more likely to produce more freedom.

Is Brexit the first victory in a larger freedom movement? Can we get out of a system that creates money out of thin air to benefit the ruling class while impoverishing the middle class? Can we get out of a central bank that finances the wars that make us less safe? Can we exit Executive Orders? Can we exit the surveillance state? The PATRIOT Act? Can we exit NDAA and indefinite detention? Can we exit the US worldwide drone program, that kills innocents overseas and makes us ever more hated?

Getting out of NATO would be a good first move. This Cold War relic survives only by stirring up conflict and then selling itself as the only option to confront the conflict it churned up. Wouldn’t it be better to not go looking for a fight in the first place? Do we really need still another NATO military exercise on the Russian border? It should be no surprise that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg was fear-mongering on the eve of the Brexit vote, warning UK citizens that if they vote to leave they could face increased terrorism.

Likewise, the US would do well to exit the various phony “free trade” agreements that provide an advantage to the well-connected elites while harming the rest of us.

The act of exit is liberating. We should make a longer list of those things we would like to get out of. I am only getting started.

Originally Posted by Anti Federalist

Likewise, the US would do well to exit the various phony “free trade” agreements that provide an advantage to the well-connected elites while harming the rest of us.

The act of exit is liberating. We should make a longer list of those things we would like to get out of. I am only getting started.

Yes please.

Originally Posted by Anti Federalist

Yeah, sounds like he's all for more internationalist integration.




After ‘Brexit,’ Can We Exit a Few Things Too?

By Ron Paul

Ron Paul Institute

June 28, 2016

Last week’s UK vote to leave the EU may have come as a shock to many, but the sentiment that led British voters to reject rule from Brussels is nothing unique. In fact, it is growing sentiment worldwide. Frustration with politics as usual, with political parties that really do not differ in philosophy, with an economy that serves the one percent at the expense of the rest of society is a growing phenomenon throughout Europe and in the United States as well. The Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump phenomena are but one example of a frustrated public sensing something is very wrong with society and looking for a way out.

What is happening in the UK, in Europe, and in the US, is nothing less than a breakdown of the entire system. The EU was meant to be a customs union where post-World War II Western Europe could rebuild itself through free trade and a reduction in bureaucracy. Through corruption and political ambition, it became an unelected bully government in Brussels, where the well-connected were well compensated and insulated from the votes of mere citizens.

Whatever happens in the near future – and it is certainly not assured that the vote to “Brexit” will actually end in the UK’s departure from the EU – a line has been crossed that supporters of more personal liberty should celebrate. Rule from London is preferable to liberty-minded Britons than rule from Brussels. Just as Texans should prefer rule from Austin to rule from Washington. That doesn’t make either option perfect, just more likely to produce more freedom.

Is Brexit the first victory in a larger freedom movement? Can we get out of a system that creates money out of thin air to benefit the ruling class while impoverishing the middle class? Can we get out of a central bank that finances the wars that make us less safe? Can we exit Executive Orders? Can we exit the surveillance state? The PATRIOT Act? Can we exit NDAA and indefinite detention? Can we exit the US worldwide drone program, that kills innocents overseas and makes us ever more hated?

Getting out of NATO would be a good first move. This Cold War relic survives only by stirring up conflict and then selling itself as the only option to confront the conflict it churned up. Wouldn’t it be better to not go looking for a fight in the first place? Do we really need still another NATO military exercise on the Russian border? It should be no surprise that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg was fear-mongering on the eve of the Brexit vote, warning UK citizens that if they vote to leave they could face increased terrorism.

Likewise, the US would do well to exit the various phony “free trade” agreements that provide an advantage to the well-connected elites while harming the rest of us.

The act of exit is liberating. We should make a longer list of those things we would like to get out of. I am only getting started.

Indexit? Individual exit. Well, unfortunately not, Ron. You see no one is going to use force of arms to stop British exit. But, through the good fortune of being born in a certain state you cannot do as nations do.

Flashback:

Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36586/#bxo8eRRj1TfLAkLi.99

How about Amerexit the UN!

Originally Posted by erowe1

To be fair, so does Ron Paul.

Was wondering what the Ban was for,,,

Was that deliberate,, or a bad brain fart?

It is quite incorrect as you know.