• Statistics: Achilles' Heel of Government

    Statistics: Achilles' Heel of Government

    By Murray N. Rothbard

    Mises.org


    April 1, 2016


    Ours is truly an Age of Statistics. In a country and an era that worships statistical data as super “scientific,” as offering us the keys to all knowledge, a vast supply of data of all shapes and sizes pours forth upon us. Mostly, it pours forth from the government. While private agencies and trade associations do gather and issue some statistics, they are limited to specific wants of specific industries. The vast bulk of statistics is gathered and disseminated by government. The overall statistics of the economy, the popular “gross national product” data that permits every economist to be a soothsayer of business conditions, come from government. Furthermore, many statistics are by-products of other governmental activities: from the Internal Revenue bureau come tax data, from unemployment insurance departments, come estimates of the unemployed, from customs offices come data on foreign trade, from the Federal Reserve flow statistics on banking, and so on. And as new statistical techniques are developed, new divisions of government departments are created to refine and use them.

    The burgeoning of government statistics offers several obvious evils to the libertarian. In the first place, it is clear that too many resources are being channeled into statistics-gathering and statistics-production. Given a wholly free market, the amount of labor, land, and capital resources devoted to statistics would dwindle to a small fraction of the present total. It has been estimated that the federal government alone spends over $48,000,000 on statistics and that statistical work employs the services of over 10,000 full-time civilian employees of the government.1

    The Hidden Costs of Coerced Reporting

    Second, the great bulk of statistics is gathered by government coercion. This not only means that they are products of unwelcome activities; it also means that the true cost of these statistics to the American public is much greater than the mere amount of tax money spent by the government agencies. Private industry, and the private consumer must bear the burdensome costs of record keeping, filing, and the like, that these statistics demand. Not only that; these fixed costs impose a relatively great burden on small business firms, which are ill-equipped to handle the mountains of red tape. Hence, these seemingly innocent statistics cripple small business enterprise and help to rigidify the American business system. A Hoover Commission task force found, for example, that:

    No one knows how much it costs American industry to compile the statistics that the Government demands. The chemical industry alone reports that each year it spends $8,850,000 to supply statistical reports demanded by three departments of the Government. The utility industry spends $32,000,000 a year in preparing reports for Government agencies …All industrial users of peanuts must report their consumption to the Department of Agriculture. … Upon the intervention of the Task Force, the Department of Agriculture agreed that henceforth only those that consume more than ten thousand pounds a year need report …
    Many employees of private industry are occupied with the collection of Government statistics. This is especially burdensome to small businesses. A small hardware store owner in Ohio estimated that 29 per cent of his time is absorbed in filling out such reports. Not infrequently people dealing with the Government have to keep several sets of books to fit the diverse and dissimilar requirements of Federal agencies.2

    Other Objections

    But there are other important, and not so obvious, reasons for the libertarian to regard government statistics with dismay. Not only do statistics gathering and producing go beyond the governmental function of defense of persons and property; not only are economic resources wasted and misallocated, and the taxpayers, industry, small business and the consumer burdened. But, furthermore, statistics are, in a crucial sense, critical to all interventionist and socialist activities of government. The individual consumer, in his daily rounds, has little need of statistics; through advertising, through the information of friends, and through his own experience, he finds out what is going on in the markets around him. The same is true of the business firm. The businessman must also size up his particular market, determine the prices he has to pay for what he buys and charge for what he sells, engage in cost accounting to estimate his costs, and so on. But none of this activity is really dependent upon the omnium gatherum of statistical facts about the economy ingested by the federal government. The businessman, like the consumer, knows and learns about his particular market through his daily experience.

    Bureaucrats as well as statist reformers, however, are in a completely different state of affairs. They are decidedly outside the market. Therefore, in order to get “into” the situation that they are trying to plan and reform, they must obtain knowledge that is not personal, day-to-day experience; the only form that such knowledge can take is statistics.3 Statistics are the eyes and ears of the bureaucrat, the politician, the socialistic reformer. Only by statistics can they know, or at least have any idea about, what is going on in the economy.4Only by statistics can they find out how many old people have rickets, or how many young people have cavities, or how many Eskimos have defective sealskins—and therefore only by statistics can these interventionists discover who “needs” what throughout the economy, and how much federal money should be channeled in what directions. And certainly, only by statistics can the federal government make even a fitful attempt to plan, regulate, control, or reform various industries—or impose central planning and socialization on the entire economic system. If the government received no railroad statistics, for example, how in the world could it even start to regulate railroad rates, finances, and other affairs? How could the government impose price controls if it didn’t even know what goods have been sold on the market, and what prices were prevailing? Statistics, to repeat, are the eyes and ears of the interventionists: of the intellectual reformer, the politician, and the government bureaucrat. Cut off those eyes and ears, destroy those crucial guidelines to knowledge, and the whole threat of government intervention is almost completely eliminated.5

    Without Statistics Bureaucracy Would Wither Away

    It is true, of course, that even deprived of all statistical knowledge of the nation’s affairs, the government could still try to intervene, to tax and subsidize, to regulate and control. It could try to subsidize the aged even without having the slightest idea of how many aged there are and where they are located; it could try to regulate an industry without even knowing how many firms there are or any other basic facts of the industry; it could try to regulate the business cycle without even knowing whether prices or business activity are going up or down. It could try, but it would not get very far. The utter chaos would be too patent and too evident even for the bureaucracy, and certainly for the citizens. And this is especially true since one of the major reasons put forth for government intervention is that it “corrects” the market, and makes the market and the economy more rational. Obviously, if the government was deprived of all knowledge whatever of economic affairs, there could not even be a pretense of rationality in government intervention. Surely, the absence of statistics would absolutely and immediately wreck any attempt at socialistic planning. It is difficult to see what, for example, the central planners at the Kremlin could do to plan the lives of Soviet citizens if the planners were deprived of all information, of all statistical data, about these citizens. The government would not even know to whom to give orders, much less how to try to plan an intricate economy.

    Thus, in all the host of measures that have been proposed over the years to check and limit government or to repeal its interventions, the simple and unspectacular abolition of government statistics would probably be the most thorough and most effective. Statistics, so vital to statism, its namesake, is also the State’s Achilles’ heel.

    [Originally printed in from Essays on Liberty (Irvington-on-Hudson, N.Y.: Foundation for Economic Education, 1961), Available in The Rothbard Reader]


    • 1.Cf. Neil Macneil and Harold W. Metz, The Hoover Report, 1953–1955 (New York: Macmillan, 1956), pp. 90–91; Commission on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government, Task Force Report on Paperwork Management (Washington, DC: June 1955); and idem, Report on Budgeting and Accounting (Washington, DC: February 1949).
    • 2.Macneil and Metz, The Hoover Report, pp. 90–91.
    • 3.On the deficiencies of statistics as compared to the personal knowledge of all participants utilized on the free market, see the illuminating discussion in F.A. Hayek, Individualism and the Economic Order (Chicago: University Press, 1948), chap. 4. Also, see Geoffrey Dobbs, On Planning the Earth (Liverpool: K.R.P. Pubs., 1951), pp. 77–86.
    • 4.As early as 1863, Samuel B. Ruggles, American Delegate to the International Statistical Congress in Berlin, declared: “Statistics are the very eyes of the statesmen, enabling him to survey and scan with the clear and comprehensive vision the whole structure and economy of the body politic.” For more on the interrelation of statistics—and statisticians—and the government, see Murray N. Rothbard, “The Politics of Political Economists: Comment,” Quarterly Journal of Economics (November 1960): 659–65. Also, see Dobbs,On Planning the Earth.
    • 5.Macneil and Metz, Reports on Budgeting and Accounting, pp. 91–92:Government policy depends upon much detailed knowledge about the Nation’s employment, production, and purchasing power.



    The formulation of legislation and administrative progress. … Supervision … regulation … and control … must be guided by knowledge of a wide range of relevant facts. Today as never before, statistical data play a major role in the supervision of Government activities. Administrators not only make plans in the light of known facts in their field of interest, but also, they must have reports on the actual progress achieved in accomplishing their goals.

    Note: The views expressed on Mises.org are not necessarily those of the Mises Institute.
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    Murray N. Rothbard (1926–1995) was dean of the Austrian School, founder of modern libertarianism, and academic vice president of the Mises Institute. He was also editor – with Lew Rockwell – of The Rothbard-Rockwell Report, and appointed Lew as his literary executor. See his books.




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    1. Zippyjuan's Avatar
      Zippyjuan -
      Interesting. An article using statistics trying to say we don't need statistics.
    1. Ronin Truth's Avatar
      Ronin Truth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
      Interesting. An article using statistics trying to say we don't need statistics.
      We don't need any government busy body, none of their damned business statistics.
    1. Zippyjuan's Avatar
      Zippyjuan -
      Without statistics how do you know if you have a good or bad government? If they don't keep track of and report taxes and spending how do you know they are doing too much of it? Did they spend too much on that program? We don't know. "We don't need to know how much government spends or what they spend it on or how much in debt they are- we don't need statistics!"

      Statistics are just numbers. They can have good and bad uses. They can show good things and bad things. To say we don't need them is silly.

      I do note that one of the points seemed to be more the costs of collecting data but there is also a cost to not having data- leading to mis-allocation of resources and increased waste. Better data helps you make better decisions.
    1. Ronin Truth's Avatar
      Ronin Truth -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
      Without statistics how do you know if you have a good or bad government? If they don't keep track of and report taxes and spending how do you know they are doing too much of it? Did they spend too much on that program? We don't know. "We don't need to know how much government spends or what they spend it on or how much in debt they are- we don't need statistics!"

      Statistics are just numbers. They can have good and bad uses. They can show good things and bad things. To say we don't need them is silly.

      I do note that one of the points seemed to be more the costs of collecting data but there is also a cost to not having data- leading to mis-allocation of resources and increased waste. Better data helps you make better decisions.
      It's always just easy (and correct) to figure you have a bad government. It's really just a no-brainer on the basis of the last 7,000 years of human history.
    1. Zippyjuan's Avatar
      Zippyjuan -
      That usually works!
    1. idiom's Avatar
      idiom -
      The internet and most of the modern economy runs on statistics.

      Just because it has the word statist in it Jeez.
    1. Ronin Truth's Avatar
      Ronin Truth -
      Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
      The internet and most of the modern economy runs on statistics.

      Just because it has the word statist in it Jeez.
      Murray was only griping about the government stats data collections charged to the taxpayers.
    1. idiom's Avatar
      idiom -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
      Murray was only griping about the government stats data collections charged to the taxpayers.
      Then he would love how much more cheaply the government can now buy much more granular and reliable data on the entire populace.
    1. Natural Citizen's Avatar
      Natural Citizen -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
      Without statistics how do you know if you have a good or bad government? If they don't keep track of and report taxes and spending how do you know they are doing too much of it? Did they spend too much on that program? We don't know. "We don't need to know how much government spends or what they spend it on or how much in debt they are- we don't need statistics!"

      Statistics are just numbers. They can have good and bad uses. They can show good things and bad things. To say we don't need them is silly.

      I do note that one of the points seemed to be more the costs of collecting data but there is also a cost to not having data- leading to mis-allocation of resources and increased waste. Better data helps you make better decisions.
      There exists a tendency to misunderstand the nature of statistics when focused on statistics themselves. It's interesting to read/listen to debate where "statistics" guide debate/discussion.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
      +Rep!


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