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  1. Excellent Quotes From Lincoln And Others About Civil War causes

    Quote Originally Posted by 1stvermont View Post

    Preserving the Union

    “The war now prosecuted on part of the federal government is a war for the union”
    -Secretary of war Simon Cameron August 8 1861


    "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone
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  2. Should Libertarians support Capital Punishment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So thousands of years of interpretation of scripture and Joseph Smith and Bruce R. McConkie agree with me, but YOU know what Mormon doctrine "REALLY" is and I don't.

    OK

    As I said you are hopeless, this conversation is over Comrade Heretic
    First of all, these aren't argument. You're just trying to win by committing logical fallacies at this point, specifically the Appeal to Authority Fallacy. It doesn't matter what someone with "rank"
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  3. Should Libertarians support Capital Punishment?

    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So thousands of years of interpretation of scripture and Joseph Smith and Bruce R. McConkie agree with me, but YOU know what Mormon doctrine "REALLY" is and I don't.

    OK

    As I said you are hopeless, this conversation is over Comrade Heretic
    First of all, these aren't argument. You're just trying to win by committing logical fallacies at this point, specifically the Appeal to Authority Fallacy. It doesn't matter what someone with "rank"
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  4. Should Libertarians support Capital Punishment?

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    Genesis 9:6

    “Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.”

    King James Version (KJV)


    GOD takes the responsibility for making right any mistakes after we do the best we can.



    John 8:7

    "When they kept on questioning him, [Jesus] straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
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  5. California’s Top Judge Tells ICE To Leave Courthouses As State Readies Sanctuary Law

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    Responses in bold.

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    "you may not go outside OR play video games" means plying video games=going outside?

    Not necessarily. Which is why context is important. Here the context is given clearly in the first paragraph I quoted, which I will do here again for you:

    As to the intention of the framers of the Constitution in the clause relating to "the migration and importation of persons, &c" the best key may perhaps be found in the case
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