Kucinich drops out

[SteveMartin]

Just reported in Cleveland Plain Dealer.

[JoshLowry]

He should endorse Ron Paul.

Shake things up.

[RonPaulFTFW]

aww.

i was hoping he'd keep going to keep his message out there.

[sgrooms]

i think we have the best chance of getting him to back us than anyone else who has dropped out

[JoeySweets]

Who cares,

Big Government loon.

[Jeremy]

If he endorses anyone, it'll be RP

[RonPaulFTFW]

Who cares,

Big Government loon.


Show some respect to a man who stands up for Paul when it matters.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Let's be nice to his people, congratulate them on an honorable and ground-breaking run, and invite them to join us. Being humble and polite is the key to his.

[Ara825]

Oh, I wish he would back Ron Paul, but he will probably back a democrat.

[GHoeberX]

Just reported in Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Please let him endorse Ron Paul!! Much better than that McCain-Lieberman endorsement. And immediately makes Ron Paul much more 'electable' (the way they defined it yesterday on the Situation Room)

[Shink]

Just reported in Cleveland Plain Dealer.

What's sadder is that Dennis had to endure the mysterious death of his brother during this election cycle.

[thehittgirl]

That's too bad, but I saw it coming. We just saw a Kucinich for president sign yesterday.

[JonathanR]

I know a fair amount of Kucinich supporters who say that Ron Paul is their second choice. I think we will gain from this.

[werdd]

Theres alot of people on the fence with ron paul supporting kucinich, i know one. I think weil pull alot of them over to the light side.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I liked Dennis K... keep plugging away at CHENNEY!!!

http://www.kucinich.us/index.html (http://www.kucinich.us/index.html)

[LiberalDemForRP]

I started out as a Kucinich supporter. :)

[GHoeberX]

Oh, I wish he would back Ron Paul, but he will probably back a democrat.

No he will not back any democrat. He said one week ago that his VP would be Ron Paul. So if Kucinich endorses anyone; it's not going to be a democrat... it's going to be Ron Paul!

[JMann]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

[freedom-maniac]

Show some respect to a man who stands up for Paul when it matters.

jackass.

+(BIG NUMBER)

[stevenstremciuc]

Didn't he already tell his supporters to vote for Obama in Iowa with their second choice? My guess is that he will do the same now that he is out of the race.

[SteveMartin]

Yes. We should pick up his supporters...at least the vast majority of them. But, what does this do to the Dem recount in NH?

[PimpBlimp]

We will get some of his supporters

[Enzo]

You know what this means?

Willie Nelson is now free to support Ron Paul!

[GHoeberX]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

He's one of Paul's closest friends

anti-Iraq war from the start
anti-Patriot Act from the start

and it's possible he'll endorse Ron Paul. That's why he comes up.

[MaidenFan]

Sad news indeed. There were two real candidates running in this race but now its down to one :(.

If Ron Paul is a constitutional republican then Dennis is a constitutional democrat. He was my second choice if Paul wasn't in the election. I've even seen a clip of Ron Paul singing praises about Kucinich. I always wondered why Kucinich's people didn't get organized like we did.

[JoshLowry]

Yes. We should pick up his supporters...at least the vast majority of them. But, what does this so to the Dem recount in NH?

The dem recount was already stopped.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/recountresults.htm

[roXet]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

Get over your labels. Kucinich is a honest man who wants to do what he thinks is best, and he recognizes that Paul is the same. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them a bad person.

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Does he have a forum?

[pacelli]

If he endorses anyone, it'll be RP

He did tell his supporters to vote Obama in the past, unfortunately :confused:

[dsentell]

Yes. We should pick up his supporters...at least the vast majority of them. But, what does this so to the Dem recount in NH?

Democratic recount stopped yesterday (Jan 23rd) as the funds ran out.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/recountresults.htm

[thomaspaine23]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

Because although socialist on the economics side he gets the civil liberties side.
Indeed I have heard Paul say that there are a number of times where both he a dennis are voting the same way.

If Dennis could only understand that liberty is tied to property, i.e. I own my body therefore I own the fruits of my labor....

Who knows I could see a place for him in a Paul administration. Something on the civil liberties side

[Phantom]

Kucinich to Introduce Impeachment of Bush Before State of the Union January 28 (http://peacecandidates.com/blog/nadia/01/24/kucinich_introduce_impeachment)

Dennis Kucinich Gets a Smack Down on House Floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLZuqbQcCJQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLZuqbQcCJQ)

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Lol, such a PIMP....

http://www.dennis4president.com/images/stories/dennis_elizabeth_shirek_web.jpg

[JoshLowry]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

He's one of Paul's closest friends

anti-Iraq war from the start
anti-Patriot Act from the start

and it's possible he'll endorse Ron Paul. That's why he comes up.

+1 :o

[ASayre]

Auuugh, why couldn't he have dropped out /before/ the California registration deadline? :(

[RonPaulFTFW]

I signed up for Kuci forum but i couldn't get it to load.....
weird.

[Yom]

We don't need his endorsement,. In fact, it'll probably come out looking bad, but we will probably pick up some of his less socialist-leaning supporters. The vehement opposition to the Iraq war and degradation of our civil liberties will pick up some, but many will be turned off by RP's message of economic freedom.

[DjLoTi]

He endorsed Obama in Iowa, I don't see why he'd do anything different this time.

[billyjoeallen]

Welcome to the r3VOLution, you tinfoil hat wearing peaceniks! You'll fit right in.
UFO parking available.

[mrkurtz]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

We call always count on JMann for a couple grunts a day.

RP has repeatedly and publicly stated that he admires Mr Kucinich, and they stood in the very small minority in regards to very pertinent issues such as, oh, the Iraq War.

So put yourself and your collectivist labels back into your "Mann"hole. We'll put the lock on it for you.

[Goldwater Conservative]

That's too bad, but I hope he doesn't endorse Paul. It could backfire among Republicans and would not help us much in return.

[Dibold]

Breaking: Dennis Kucinich endorses Mitt Romney for President:
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/alerts-%11-left/campaign-weekly-update-1%1121%1108/

[pengieh]

He endorsed Obama in Iowa, I don't see why he'd do anything different this time.

Because in Iowa, if Kucinich didn't have 15% they were still in a democratic caucus and he would rather them go with Obama than Hillary or Edwards.

[MaidenFan]

He endorsed Obama in Iowa, I don't see why he'd do anything different this time.
Because Iowa was just one state and democrats couldn't participate in the republican caucus? Dunno. In some states voters don't have to disclose party affiliation, so it would make more sense for him to support Paul now.

[NoMoreApathy]

The 2 have completely opposite domestic policies, but that doesn't mean they can't agree with each other on many things, and have respect for one another.

I'm not sure exactly how much his supporters can help us though, at least vote-wise. Most party-change deadlines have passed. We could do better in OPEN states though. Could be a couple thousand extra votes in OPEN states, and it would definitely help us in the General if Paul went 3rd party.

I think Kucinich has the same view as Paul does about his opponents. He doesn't agree with their foreign policies, so he probably wouldn't endorse ANY of them.

[JMann]

Because although socialist on the economics side he gets the civil liberties side.
Indeed I have heard Paul say that there are a number of times where both he a dennis are voting the same way.

If Dennis could only understand that liberty is tied to property, i.e. I own my body therefore I own the fruits of my labor....

Who knows I could see a place for him in a Paul administration. Something on the civil liberties side

If he endorses Paul, Paul might as well drop out of the Republican primary. He shares a few things in common with Paul but they are two totally different people. Friend or not an official endorsement would be a death nail.

[SteveMartin]

It will help is in the general if we win the Republican nomination too!

[fletcher]

Get over your labels. Kucinich is a honest man who wants to do what he thinks is best, and he recognizes that Paul is the same. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them a bad person.

Kucinich is honest, but he is also a socialist. How did you interpret asking why a socialist is brought up often on a libertarian board as calling someone a bad person? :confused:

[LiberalDemForRP]

From http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2008/01/kucinich_drops_presidential_bi.html :

Cleveland Congressman Dennis Kucinich is dropping out of the Democratic race for president.

Kucinich will make the announcement Friday at a news conference in Cleveland. In an exclusive interview with Plain Dealer editors and reporters, Kucinich said he will explain his "transition" tomorrow.

"I want to continue to serve in Congress," he said.

Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary.

Kucinich is seeking a seventh term in Congress, but his long-shot bid for the White House has drawn four Democratic opponents.
---------------------------------------------

Emphasis added is mine.

[JMann]

Breaking: Dennis Kucinich endorses Mitt Romney for President:
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/alerts-%11-left/campaign-weekly-update-1%1121%1108/

That would be excellent. Make it happen.

[Airborn]

No he will not back any democrat. He said one week ago that his VP would be Ron Paul. So if Kucinich endorses anyone; it's not going to be a democrat... it's going to be Ron Paul!

No, he already told his supporters to back obama if he dops out

[Shink]

Welcome to the r3VOLution, you tinfoil hat wearing peaceniks! You'll fit right in.
UFO parking available.

Will they fit in your treehouse?

[RonPaulFTFW]

No, he already told his supporters to back obama if he dops out

He's doing that to make it so slightly less war hawkish obama beats hilary.

makes some sense.

[mantasmatron]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UCG91O0&show_article=1


Perhaps a sticky should be made to speak to any of his supporters that might come over our way?

[RonPaulFTFW]

it's stupid to call kucinich a big spender anyway... he's against NAFTA and stood up to a lot of big special interests.

learn the fax.

[Shink]

LOL, I go looking for a forum on his site and the what do I see? In the 'Action' section, 'Recent Logins' and a smiling picture of Ron. Drag the mouse over it, what do you get? "ronpaulFTW" :D Hilarious.

[JMann]

Get over your labels. Kucinich is a honest man who wants to do what he thinks is best, and he recognizes that Paul is the same. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them a bad person.

Jesse Helms is an honest man but he is a bigot. I never said he was a bad person, he is a socialist. From what I read on this board, people don't agree with W. Bush and he seems to be treated like he is just below satan in bad personess. Not to mention the fact this is a forum for a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination. You have people here trying to convict, impeach, imprison and other wise destroy the Republican president. Odd how Denny's (a Kucinich supporter) gets better press here than most any other Republican because he agrees with Paul on 2 or 3 issues.

[mantasmatron]

Apologies. I posted this in haste. I should have looked around beforehand.

Mods - Please delete. Thanks :-)

[RonPaulFTFW]

LOL, I go looking for a forum on his site and the what do I see? In the 'Action' section, 'Recent Logins' and a smiling picture of Ron. Drag the mouse over it, what do you get? "ronpaulFTW" :D Hilarious.

that's me :D

[HOLLYWOOD]

Here's the ASSOCIATED PRESS POST:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_el_pr/kucinich_withdraws_1 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_el_pr/kucinich_withdraws_1)

[ShowMeLiberty]

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/15130404/detail.html

Official announcement to come tomorrow. He has said he will NOT endorse another Democrat, so there's a good chance he'll endorse Ron Paul.

He is still running to keep his seat in Congress, so anybody here from Ohio needs to give Dennis a hand if there is no Ron Paul Republican in the race. He's a good guy, just has different ideas on economics and entitlements.

[Dibold]

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/15130404/detail.html

Official announcement to come tomorrow. He has said he will NOT endorse another Democrat, so there's a good chance he'll endorse Ron Paul.



"I will not endorse another democrat." = "I am not going to endorse anyone, just like Fred Thompson has no plans to endorse anyone."

[RonPaulFTFW]

his supporters will come to us without his endorsement and i think that'll work the best.

[TonySutton]

Our Cleveland Ron Paul meetup group is about 340 strong. We'll give it a week and see if we see any spike in membership. I would think there are certain Kucinich supporters who will give Ron Paul a look.

[affa]

Jesse Helms is an honest man but he is a bigot. I never said he was a bad person, he is a socialist. From what I read on this board, people don't agree with W. Bush and he seems to be treated like he is just below satan in bad personess. Not to mention the fact this is a forum for a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination. You have people here trying to convict, impeach, imprison and other wise destroy the Republican president. Odd how Denny's (a Kucinich supporter) gets better press here than most any other Republican because he agrees with Paul on 2 or 3 issues.

And because he's honest. And speaks from the heart. And stands up for the American people.

[freedom-maniac]

Honestly, I'm quite suprised he dropped out this early. In 2004, he stuck in until the last primary state, after Kerry had far more than the number of delegate's needed to win.

The only reason I think he would drop out this early would be to endorse Dr. Paul.

[slantedview]

Who cares,

Big Government loon.

i guess that makes ron a small government loon?

[RonPaulFTFW]

Honestly, I'm quite suprised he dropped out this early. In 2004, he stuck in until the last primary state, after Kerry had far more than the number of delegate's needed to win.

The only reason I think he would drop out this early would be to endorse Dr. Paul.



Or maybe he's busy trying to push through the impeachment process and knows he's just going to get a raw deal?

[jgmaynard]

Denny had decent grassroots support - that group of us rallying against Fox in Manchester right before our primary also had a significant Kucinich contingent, and Denny's bus kept driving up and down the street honking in approval at us. :D

JM

[virginiakid]

No he said the reason he is dropping out is because he needed to concentrate on his Congressional Run. He is being challenged. He also said that he will not be endorsing any Democrat running for office.

I wonder if this will be a good thing for RP? His voters are disinfranchised voters. I wonder if they will protest by voting for RP?

[HarbingerOfTruth]

Let's be nice to his people, congratulate them on an honorable and ground-breaking run, and invite them to join us. Being humble and polite is the key to his.

Face-splattering run.

[Jeremy]

No he said the reason he is dropping out is because he needed to concentrate on his Congressional Run. He is being challenged. He also said that he will not be endorsing any Democrat running for office.

I wonder if this will be a good thing for RP? His voters are disinfranchised voters. I wonder if they will protest by voting for RP?

I remember in an interview he said he'd pick RP as VP.

[RonPaulFTFW]

Eternal hails to a man who stands up for the little guy, fights for the constitution, and wants to end our horrible wars!

Even if he is a democrat i have massive respect for the man who has helped our movement in many way.s

Thanks dennis!

[Mental Dribble]

Lol, such a PIMP....

http://www.dennis4president.com/images/stories/dennis_elizabeth_shirek_web.jpg

man shes a looker...

[affa]

Our Cleveland Ron Paul meetup group is about 340 strong. We'll give it a week and see if we see any spike in membership. I would think there are certain Kucinich supporters who will give Ron Paul a look.

I know there are.

In order to understand Kucinich and his supporters some of you need to look past blinding labels like 'socialist'.

Kucinich is coming from a very, very kind hearted place. For example, his health care plan is built around the concept that no one should be denied health care. And when you start with that premise (which many people do), obviously you'll come to a different conclusion than a strict free market capitalist.

But they do come from the same place - Dr. Ron Paul is also kind hearted and is also trying to fix the health care system, albeit in a very different way (whereas many other candidates are bought and paid for by the medical industrial complex).

This movement will gain Kucinich supporters. And that's a good thing.

[constitutional]

I remember in an interview he said he'd pick RP as VP.

that's if he had to pick from the republican side.

[DahuiHeeNalu]

I hope he endorses Ron Paul he has a few supporters in my town they are always chalking they seem pretty cool we all are sorta on the same message they both are our last chance i also like Gravel to those 3 amaze me!!!

[Goldwater Conservative]

Honestly, I'm quite suprised he dropped out this early. In 2004, he stuck in until the last primary state, after Kerry had far more than the number of delegate's needed to win.

I thought the same thing, but then again this is probably going to continue much longer than the Dem race did last time. Hell, Kerry all but locked it up after winning Iowa and NH. Kucinich could afford to hang around and pick up delegates considering the relatively low turnout of the states late in the calendar. This time around Hillary will be battling Obama for quite some time.

[Eponym_mi]

I know a Kucinich supporter in my state who said he'd vote for RP, if Kucinich was not in the race. Kucinich dropped too late for the MI primary, but we really need to work on getting his supporters for later primaries. They may need to change party affiliation so time is of the essense!

[nullvalu]

Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary.

this better mean he's going to endorse Paul...

[idiom]

His endorsement would work if we got thompsons at the same time.

[Austin]

His endorsement would work if we got thompsons at the same time.

Who gave the crazy idea that Thompson would endorse us? :rolleyes:

[SML]

I liked Kucinich and I hope his people come over here. Just going by turnout ratios they can make much more of an impact backing Paul than they can Obama (the Dem Kucinich would steer them toward, if any.)

[flames2dust77]

aaaaw, I had a massive amount of respect for him. well, hopefully some of his supporters will become paulites:D

[JAlli41]

i bet he goes with obama, it sounds like he wants anyone who will take down clinton

[nullvalu]

i bet he goes with obama, it sounds like he wants anyone who will take down clinton

from the article: "Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary."

[dvictr]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8UCG91O0&show_article=1


Perhaps a sticky should be made to speak to any of his supporters that might come over our way?

well they cant vote in the GOP so it doesnt really matter but DONATIONs would be nice:rolleyes:

[jdmetz]

Dennis Kucinich is dropping out of the Democratic primary race:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080124/ap_on_el_pr/kucinich_withdraws

"Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary."

So, my question is, would it help or hurt Dr. Paul if Kucinich endorsed him? It seems possible to me that he would do so.

[nullvalu]

well they cant vote in the GOP so it doesnt really matter but DONATIONs would be nice:rolleyes:

NOT true. They CAN vote in open primary states.

[Falseflagop]

Endorse RON come on Dennis!

[newyearsrevolution08]

And also for those who states who have not met their "party switch" date as well. Not sure how many of those are left BUT I think it is important to note and get a notice out to any kucinich fans that want to switch republican to vote for him can still do so.

[nullvalu]

perhaps a friendly request for an endorsement to him/his campaign couldn't hurt? http://www.dennis4president.com/

email: info@kucinich.us

[N13]

Neutral on Dennis' endorsement, but his supporters are welcome here.

[nate895]

this better mean he's going to endorse Paul...

I hope he doesn't, our negatives amongst conservatives will sore to their greatest heights ever.

[axiomata]

Since there is a segment of RP supporters that would have Kucinich as their second choice (personally I don't get it) do you think there is a segment of Kucinich supporters that would go with Paul as their second choice? And how can that 1% be reached?

[Mystile]

A Kucinich endorsement would only further the image of RP's so-called "kookiness" and could scare away potential conservative voters, though I hold great respect for the man.

[JMann]

Since there are already two Kucinich threads on the front page of RP Grassroots Central don't you think this thread could of been included in one of those two? Especially the one titled something like Kucinich drops out.

[pacelli]

bump

[pacelli]

8 page thread here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=99926

[Soccrmastr]

Kucinich endorse RON!!!!

[StateofTrance]

Some of you need to do some research - HE DIDN'T ENDORSE OBAMA - but his supporters were required to select someone else if he couldn't hit the 15% as needed - so he mentioned Obama's name - only in Iowa. Do some research before typing crap.

[Son of Detroit]

Any man who wants to completely ban hand-guns from the U.S is not someone who likes civil liberties. Kucinich would be the LAST man I'd want as President.

You can say good-bye to the nomination if Kooky Kucinich endorses Paul. He's the anti-conservative/libertarian.

[Thomas Paine]

What a kook!

[nullvalu]

I hope he doesn't, our negatives amongst conservatives will sore to their greatest heights ever.

How many conservatives do you really think even know who Kucinich is & what his positions are? If anything, he's known for being against the war, same as Paul. I don't think it hurts us at all.

[cien750hp]

Uhh, any man who wants to completely ban hand-guns from the U.S is not someone who likes civil liberties. Kucinich would be the LAST man I'd want as President.

he may not have ideals we agree with but at least he has integrity
i'd take him as a foreign policy advisor or something along those lines

[werdd]

i didn't like him because he wants to nationally ban smoking, like all of the other democrat's.

That being said, were sad to see him go. And we could be seeing an influx of Ex - kucinich supporters so be respectful.

[StateofTrance]

Intolerant neo-cons showing their true colors on the site. Fucking idiots go back to your caves.

[Son of Detroit]

Intolerant neo-cons showing their true colors on the site. Fucking idiots go back to your caves.

I'm a Libertarian, and Kucinich is the complete 180 from Libertarianism.

Watch who you're calling a neo-con. It can poke an eye out.

[familydog]

I respect his positions on foreign policy, and he is the most likable out of all the dems that ran....other than that why should I feel bad?

People here hate Huckabee with all their hearts, even though Paul has more in common with Huckabee.

Oops. I dissented from majority opinion.

*braces for the flames*

[Voluntaryist]

Why does that socialist name come up on Paul's website daily?

Cause its also an anti-war and anti-government-spying name, and his dropping out will likely affect the Ron Paul campaign in a positive way.

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

he'd be good at uprooting corruption and enforcing a more transparent gov't.
That's about it.

[PatriotG]

Eternal hails to a man who stands up for the little guy, fights for the constitution, and wants to end our horrible wars!

Even if he is a democrat i have massive respect for the man who has helped our movement in many way.s

Thanks dennis!

Agreed
He was a possible choice for me early on in case RP didnt make it

Good luck Dennis with your future endeavors

[asgardshill]

Perhaps Kucinich had a momentary attack of sanity and realized what a hot wife he had at home in Ohio while he was sleeping alone in all those cold hotel beds in Flyover Country.

[amy31416]

Let's be nice to his people, congratulate them on an honorable and ground-breaking run, and invite them to join us. Being humble and polite is the key to his.

Hear hear!

Can we get the mods to move the negative threads ASAP?

[stewie3128]

Now we can say that Paul is the *only* candidate who wants to bring our troops home immediately.

[BenIsForRon]

I hope he doesn't, our negatives amongst conservatives will sore to their greatest heights ever.

I think any conservative who would be affected by a Kucinich endorsement is already not voting for Paul.

[RevolutionSD]

We need to work on getting some of these Kucinich supporters to join us.

In CA, it's too late to switch parties to vote in the primaries for Paul.
In several other states it's not too late or there's an open primary.

Remember, we have a lot in common:

-Both honest men
-Both strongly anti-iraq war
-Both voted against the Patriot Act
-Both strongly against the War On Drugs

Kucinich has much more in common w/Paul than w/Hillary. Emphasize that to your Kucinich friends and win them over!

[SimpleName]

He better be endorsing Ron Paul. One of the only other honest men in Congress.

[dirknb@hotmail.com]

Let's be nice to his people, congratulate them on an honorable and ground-breaking run, and invite them to join us. Being humble and polite is the key to his.

+1

[thuja]

Welcome to the r3VOLution, you tinfoil hat wearing peaceniks! You'll fit right in.
UFO parking available.

what a yukky comment. i have been a RP supporter for a long time, and have given a lot of money, but this sort of thing makes me want to drop out.
peacenik and vegetarian

[Cigaboo]

That's too bad, but I hope he doesn't endorse Paul. It could backfire among Republicans and would not help us much in return.

I disagree. If we can get the ex-Fred and Kucinich voters to unite on our side, we will become a much stronger force.

[Suhail Syed]

Oh, I wish he would back Ron Paul, but he will probably back a democrat.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvqZApX0MAbUfw6405YqTDVR-9MAD8UCHPC80


Kucinich said he will not endorse another Democrat in the primary.

[integrity]

Lol, such a PIMP....

http://www.dennis4president.com/images/stories/dennis_elizabeth_shirek_web.jpg

I didn't know they made platform shoes this tall! (or is he on a ladder?)

i like kucinich because he seems like an honest man. didn't agree with the socialist gungrabbing but I realized there is no way he would be able to take my guns.

[Dibold]

I didn't know they made platform shoes this tall! (or is he on a ladder?)


You're an idiot.