how should i reply to my friend?

[matratzac]

well... I dont question that he is intelligent I just have very different views on almost all issues other than iraq. He may be the best candidate when it comes to the economy, I dont claim to be an economist so I really cant argue one way or another on that issue, but its the civil liberty issues that are of the most concern to me and that is where my views clash with those of Ron Paul and the rest of the republicans seeing as how I have very liberal views on illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion, ect. Also I think that we desperatly need a president that can bring people together and create less of a partisanship since the bush administration created a such a huge divide between the democrats and republicans and nobody will be as succesful at that as Obama.

[matratzac]

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[BLS]

Tell your friend to read a book.

[Austin]

well... I dont question that he is intelligent I just have very different views on almost all issues other than iraq. He may be the best candidate when it comes to the economy, I dont claim to be an economist so I really cant argue one way or another on that issue, but its the civil liberty issues that are of the most concern to me and that is where my views clash with those of Ron Paul and the rest of the republicans seeing as how I have very liberal views on illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion, ect. Also I think that we desperatly need a president that can bring people together and create less of a partisanship since the bush administration created a such a huge divide between the democrats and republicans and nobody will be as succesful at that as Obama.

Ron Paul's ultimate goal would be to let almost everyone come freely, however, due to our problematic economy, immigrants are not welcome. If we had a much stronger economy, and we will under a Paul administration, then illegal immigration would not be a problem. Immigration of all kinds would be encouraged!

Ron Paul is a great choice if you support gay marriage, because he doesn't want to have anything to say on the matter. He opposes constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage, and believes that the issue should be left up to the states. Also, Ron Paul is very strong on individual rights, which means that gay rights and such are much less of a problem. Dr. Paul advocates equality among everyone!

Again on the abortion, Dr. Paul will not have any say in this on the federal level. He wants the controversial issue to be left up to the states, as per the Constitution.

Ron Paul is the only candidate that can end the bi-partisanship we have today. People across the entire political spectrum are flocking to Ron Paul, and this is fact. I know several Ron Paul supporters that are democrats, or other lesser-known parties. A prime example of this is the support Congressman Paul receives from Dennis Kucinich.

Something along those lines would be pretty convincing... :D

[ARealConservative]

well... I dont question that he is intelligent I just have very different views on almost all issues other than iraq. He may be the best candidate when it comes to the economy, I dont claim to be an economist so I really cant argue one way or another on that issue, but its the civil liberty issues that are of the most concern to me and that is where my views clash with those of Ron Paul and the rest of the republicans seeing as how I have very liberal views on illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion, ect. Also I think that we desperatly need a president that can bring people together and create less of a partisanship since the bush administration created a such a huge divide between the democrats and republicans and nobody will be as succesful at that as Obama.

How is Obama going to close the wedge with Republicans?

We at least have a plan. Most issues that are currently dividing America would get moved to the states. Eventually people will find the area/government that best matches there views - or atleast have a bigger voice to change policy.

Your friend is ignorant if he thinks nationalized health care is going to bridge the gap. Obama's change is to force 300 million in a different direction. Meet the New Boss - same as the old boss.

[affa]

well... I dont question that he is intelligent I just have very different views on almost all issues other than iraq. He may be the best candidate when it comes to the economy, I dont claim to be an economist so I really cant argue one way or another on that issue, but its the civil liberty issues that are of the most concern to me and that is where my views clash with those of Ron Paul and the rest of the republicans seeing as how I have very liberal views on illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion, ect. Also I think that we desperatly need a president that can bring people together and create less of a partisanship since the bush administration created a such a huge divide between the democrats and republicans and nobody will be as succesful at that as Obama.

tell him:
Illegal immigration:
"I'm also convinced that if we didn't have the welfare state, this would be a non-issue. If we had sound money, no welfare state, and we were thriving.... It's because we're having these economic problems that I say the illegal alien becomes an easy scapegoat." - Ron Paul
In other words, while he does view Illegal Immigration as a serious problem, it's only because the economy is in shambles. If our economy was sound, we'd welcome more legal immigration.

Gay marriage:
"Sure they can do whatever they want and they can call it whatever they want , just so they don’t expect to impose their relationship on somebody else. They can’t make me, personally, accept what they do, but they gay couples can do whatever they want. In fact, I’d like to see all governments out of the marriage question. I don’t think it’s a state function. I think it’s a religious function. There was a time when only churches dealt with marriage, and they determined what it was. But 100 years or so ago for health reasons they claim that the state would protect us if we knew more about our spouses and we did health testing and you had to get a license to get married and I don’t agree with that." - Ron Paul

Abortion
Again, not a Federal issue. To oversimplify, a Federal Gov't that can legalize abortion can one day criminalize it. Far better to put it in states hands, even if that causes some secondary issues (since some states will criminalize). Better than setting ourselves up for a national ban.

"...the bush administration created a such a huge divide between the democrats and republicans and nobody will be as succesful at that as Obama"

I don't see Republicans jumping ship for Obama. I DO see everyone from anarchists to socialists to democrats backing Ron Paul. Ron Paul's message of freedom is VERY unifying.

[RonPaulFTFW]

Ron Paul is against the National ID card. Obama and Hilary aren't to my knowledge. That's a big issue with immigration that a lot of people overlook. He has said that we use illegals as scapegoats for the real problems. He does want a strong boarder but he sees the problem in economic terms.

Ron Paul will revoke the US patriot act. He sees our liberties of protection from the police and the state as the most important right we have above all others. He's also the only candidate who says that and I think anybody who is really into civil rights can see the value in that.

Ron Paul will end the war on drugs, the most racist policy endorsed by the government. Obama doesn't talk about that at all.

Ron Paul is also against the death penalty because he sees it as a racist policy.

As for gay rights he has stated that gays in the military are just fine. He thinks it's absurd to attack gays in the military when there are so many reports of rapes on women that are never addressed. RP is against a federal Law enforcing gay marriage, not against gays having rights.

The same ideas apply with abortion. He is against the federal law of Roe V. Wade not a woman's right to choose per say. It's an important distinction. He's given birth to 4000 people so it's an issue he knows a lot about.

Also, Ron Paul's views on abortion come from a very logical and clear idea of the law and protection of life, not from some crazy notion of sinners and punishment. You can respect him.

I am also pro-choice and pro-gay rights but I love Dr. Paul because I can trust him and know he is an honest man.



And if you're worried about bringing us all together.............Nobody has the stances to do that like Ron Paul. His anti-war stance with his economic conservative views are a perfect mix to bring in all kinds of people.

[Nic4Truth]

Send him this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8 (The difference between Obama and Ron Paul)

:)

My husband recently had a friend email him that Ron was racist and an anti-semite, hates Jews and blacks, etc. We came back at him with a very respectful and informative response, with lots of links, videos and back up. He really appreciated the info, and that we didnt take an angry stance, rather an informative one. Try to do that also by educating him more, videos, etc. Good luck :)

[Goldwater Conservative]

but its the civil liberty issues that are of the most concern to me and that is where my views clash with those of Ron Paul and the rest of the republicans seeing as how I have very liberal views on illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion, ect.

Ron Paul is for securing the border. Why should we let just anybody come in? That could include criminals and terrorists, and in fact it has. Let only law-abiding immigrants in, otherwise you're not only hurting America but the legal immigrant community that is often the victim of such crime.

Also, we should be able to make sure immigrants won't be putting a strain on our social services system. Otherwise, the poor and working class Americans will be the first to suffer.

As for same-sex marriage, Paul is for leaving it up to the states, and has personally advocated getting government out of the marriage licensing business altogether, heterosexual marriages included. Paul is opposed to any laws against individuals choosing to live an "alternative" lifestyle or be in relationships with other consenting adults.

Paul is indeed pro-life, but he believes the states should be allowed to decide for themselves. If you want an abortion in a state where they're illegal, at worst you could go to another state. Abortions are already expensive anyway.

Besides, don't you think there's far more to civil liberties than these wedge issues? What about your right to not have the government monitor what you say on the pone, or see on the web, or write in your e-mails, or do in the privacy of your own home? What about your right to not have your home and property raided by the government for whatever reason it makes up? That's just scratching the surface, but Paul is among the most reliable civil libertarians anywhere in the country today.


Also I think that we desperatly need a president that can bring people together and create less of a partisanship since the bush administration created a such a huge divide between the democrats and republicans and nobody will be as succesful at that as Obama.

Paul could do that. Democrats and those on the left would be drawn to Paul's stand on civil liberties and his opposition to the war, independents and moderates would be drawn to the civility and honesty of Paul, and Republicans and conservatives would be drawn to Paul's strict fiscal conservatism and federalism. Obama is a staunch leftist who would have the right up in arms just like they were during Clinton's tenure, and while he may be less divisive than Bush, pretty much anybody would be.