PDA

View Full Version : The IRS isn't even an agency of the United States Government? (it's part fof the UN)




whobot
01-24-2008, 01:31 PM
According to this video the IRS belongs to the UN.
Can anyone confim this?

It comes up at about the one minute mark.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=t9rLGGjJt9I&feature=related

robertwerden
01-24-2008, 01:38 PM
The IRS is part of the executive branch

fedup100
01-24-2008, 01:43 PM
The IRS is part of the executive branch

Bullshit!!!! The Federal Reserve is a private corporation, the IRS is the tax collecting branch if the fed res, and is a separate private corporation. The BATF is the waring arm of the Fed Res. They have recently been put under the UN and so have our police, they are getting ready to drop the hammer on this one world crap after the 08 election.

PatriotG
01-24-2008, 02:01 PM
Bullshit!!!! The Federal Reserve is a private corporation, the IRS is the tax collecting branch if the fed res, and is a separate private corporation. The BATF is the waring arm of the Fed Res. They have recently been put under the UN and so have our police, they are getting ready to drop the hammer on this one world crap after the 08 election.

Based on what Ive read in the past, the above is correct.

FrankRep
01-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Bullshit!!!! The Federal Reserve is a private corporation, the IRS is the tax collecting branch if the fed res, and is a separate private corporation. The BATF is the waring arm of the Fed Res. They have recently been put under the UN and so have our police, they are getting ready to drop the hammer on this one world crap after the 08 election.


The Federal Reserve is a centralized bank, not an actual corporation.

HOLLYWOOD
01-24-2008, 02:28 PM
The Federal Reserve is a centralized bank, not an actual corporation.

The IRS are a Derivative of the SLICKEST MAFIA Organizations!

They have the POWER to TAKE ANYTHING THEY WISH FROM ANYONE without due PROCESS through the JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

THE TREASURY/IRS has their OWN "FINANCIAL PATRIOT ACT"... that PENALIZES and FINES BANKING AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS if they don't MONITOR their clients accounts and monies and report to the TREASURY/IRS on any Suspicious monetary movements/deposits/transfers/etc. FBARs, SARs, & CTRs by the BANKS.

SO the TREASURY/IRS in BED with all the BANKING/FINANCIAL Institutions and spying on everyones accounts.

Additionally, if the IRS or ANY STATE says you own them money... they have a NATIONWIDE ALERT SYSTEM the BANKS & FINANCIAL institution use to notify them of deposits in accounts, without ANY COURT ORDERS/SUBPOENAS!

examples:

http://www.customs.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/archives/legacy/2002/112002/11272002.xml

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11816

http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/daily-brief/2007/09/18/union-bank-settles-up

fedup100
01-24-2008, 02:34 PM
The Federal Reserve is a centralized bank, not an actual corporation.

It is both.

THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY.

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof. Today however, the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value.

The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners (stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison (Reference 1, 14). The FED banking system collects billions of dollars (Reference 8, 17) in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money (through the Treasury) at no interest to the FED. The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud (Reference 1,2,3,5,17).

Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed:

Rothschild Bank of London Warburg Bank of Hamburg Rothschild Bank of Berlin Lehman Brothers of New York Lazard Brothers of Paris Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy Goldman, Sachs of New York Warburg Bank of Amsterdam Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152)

These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt (Reference 4, 22).

The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank. (Reference 22)

First National Bank of New York James Stillman National City Bank, New York Mary W. Harnman

National Bank of Commerce, New York A.D. Jiullard

Hanover National Bank, New York Jacob Schiff

Chase National Bank, New York Thomas F. Ryan Paul Warburg William Rockefeller Levi P. Morton M.T. Pyne George F. Baker Percy Pyne Mrs. G.F. St. George J.W. Sterling Katherine St. George H.P. Davidson J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life) Edith Brevour T. Baker (Reference 4 for above, Reference 22 has details, P. 92, 93, 96, 179)

How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3, 4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my country" (Reference 17, P. 31).

Now the banks financially back sympathetic candidates. Not surprisingly, most of these candidates are elected (Reference 1, P. 208-210, Reference 12, P. 235, Reference 14, P. 36). The bankers employ members of the Congress on weekends (nickname T club -out Thursday...-in Tuesday) with lucrative salaries (Reference 1, P. 209). Additionally, the FED started buying up the media in the 1930's and now owns or significantly influences most of it Reference 3, 10, 11, P. 145).

Presidents Lincoln, Jackson, and Kennedy tried to stop this family of bankers by printing U.S. dollars without charging the taxpayers interest (Reference 4). Today, if the government runs a deficit, the FED prints dollars through the U.S. Treasury, buys the debt, and the dollars are circulated into the economy. In 1992, taxpayers paid the FED banking system $286 billion in interest on debt the FED purchased by printing money virtually cost free (Reference 12, P. 265). Forty percent of our personal federal income taxes goes to pay this interest. The FED's books are not open to the public. Congress has yet to audit it.

Congressman Wright Patman was Chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Banking and Currency for 40 years. For 20 of those years, he introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913.

Congressman Henry Gonzales, Chairman of a banking committee, introduces legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913 nearly every year. It's always defeated, the media remains silent, and the public never learns the truth. The same bankers who own the FED control the media and give huge political contributions to sympathetic members of Congress (Reference 12, P. 155-163, Reference 22, P. 158, 159, 166).

THE FED FEARS THE POPULATION WILL BECOME AWARE OF THIS FRAUD AND DEMAND CHANGE

We, the People, are at fault for being passive and allowing this to continue.

Thumper
01-24-2008, 02:36 PM
Ummm...isn't the IRS part of the Treasurey Dept? Isn't the Treasury Dept. completely separate from the Federal Reserve?

If the IRS wasn't a government agency would their website be www.irs.gov (http://www.irs.gov)??

http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=149200,00.html

Deborah K
01-24-2008, 03:09 PM
The person who put this together inaccurately portrays Lincoln's role in the central banking system, making him sound like he was FOR it. This makes me question his credibility with regard to the rest of this clip.

http://www.xat.org/xat/usury.html

The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham Lincoln

whobot
01-24-2008, 03:38 PM
The person who put this together inaccurately portrays Lincoln's role in the central banking system, making him sound like he was FOR it. This makes me question his credibility with regard to the rest of this clip.

http://www.xat.org/xat/usury.html

The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. -Abraham Lincoln

The video said Lincoln was against the gold standard. That quote by Lincoln pasted is the direct cause for all this economic trouble we're in today. It proves Abrahams guilt! Ron Paul himself even blamed Abraham for the Civil war saying he could have just bought out the slaves instead of killing 250,000 of them.

fedup100
01-24-2008, 03:47 PM
Ummm...isn't the IRS part of the Treasurey Dept? Isn't the Treasury Dept. completely separate from the Federal Reserve?

If the IRS wasn't a government agency would their website be www.irs.gov (http://www.irs.gov)??

http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=149200,00.html

http://www.irsdetermination.us/IRS%20Info.htm

Kingfisher
01-24-2008, 04:02 PM
The U.N. wasnt formed till the1940's

Mesogen
01-24-2008, 05:31 PM
The IRS also took the place of the Bureau of Internal Revenue, which was begun in 1862.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service


In 1862, during the Civil War, President Lincoln and Congress created the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue and enacted an income tax to pay war expenses (see Revenue Act of 1862). The position of Commissioner exists today as the head of the Internal Revenue Service.
The organization created to enforce these taxes was named for the internal revenue to be collected (and was formerly called the "Bureau of Internal Revenue"), in contrast to U.S. government institutions that collected external revenue through duties and tariffs.
As early as the year 1929, the Bureau of Internal Revenue began using the name "Internal Revenue Service" on at least one tax form.[1] In 1953 the name change to the "Internal Revenue Service" was formalized in Treasury Decision 6038.[2]

fedup100
01-24-2008, 05:35 PM
Wiki is not a trusted source for this kind of info....there are divisions of fed gov people always editing wiki in their favor.