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llepard
01-24-2008, 09:57 AM
Many of you know who I am, some do not.

I am the guy who spent personal funds to run two advertisements for Dr. Paul.

We all know that getting the Freedom message across to the American public is a marathon and not a sprint. It is going to take more than just Ron Paul to save this country. Dr. Paul has started a revolution, now we need others to pick up the banner and run with it.

I have met and spent time with Dr. Murray Sabrin, a candidate for the U.S. Senate in the State of New Jersey. He is a complete "Ron Paul Republican" and he is a very good man, by my estimation. He is a Professor of Economics and lives right across the river from the largest media market in the U.S. He is an excellent communicator and he is going to win. That is, if he gets the money to get his message out.

I have backed him to the max. $9,200. (primary and general). If you can you should help him too. He is running a $31 by January 31st fund raiser. If he can get 100,000 people to do this he will win this election. Please spread the word and help him if you can.

If you believe in the Freedom messagee and have the means I strongly believe that Dr. Sabrin deserves your support.

More info. can be found here:

www.sabrinforsenate.com (be sure to sign up for his mailing list).

http://www.lewrockwell.com/raskin/raskin32.html

The Revolution Lives!!!!!!!!! Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for listening. LWL

Starks
01-24-2008, 09:59 AM
I admire Sabrin, but his site is just one huge RP advertisement.

JenaS62
01-24-2008, 10:02 AM
I just sent his website to my friend in NJ. Thanks for the link llepard!

itshappening
01-24-2008, 10:06 AM
this is important, we need good candidates for the Senate!

V4Vendetta
01-24-2008, 10:08 AM
looks like a very interesting individual..... I'll look into him some more

driller80545
01-24-2008, 10:09 AM
I will help what little I can. Good to see you back.

ronpaul.in
01-24-2008, 10:14 AM
Many of you know who I am, some do not.

I am the guy who spent personal funds to run two advertisements for Dr. Paul.

We all know that getting the Freedom message across to the American public is a marathon and not a sprint. It is going to take more than just Ron Paul to save this country. Dr. Paul has started a revolution, now we need others to pick up the banner and run with it.

I have met and spent time with Dr. Murray Sabrin, a candidate for the U.S. Senate in the State of New Jersey. He is a complete "Ron Paul Republican" and he is a very good man, by my estimation. He is a Professor of Economics and lives right across the river from the largest media market in the U.S. He is an excellent communicator and he is going to win. That is, if he gets the money to get his message out.

I have backed him to the max. $9,200. (primary and general). If you can you should help him too. He is running a $31 by January 31st fund raiser. If he can get 100,000 people to do this he will win this election. Please spread the word and help him if you can.

If you believe in the Freedom messagee and have the means I strongly believe that Dr. Sabrin deserves your support.

More info. can be found here:

www.sabrinforsenate.com (be sure to sign up for his mailing list).

http://www.lewrockwell.com/raskin/raskin32.html


Thanks for listening. LWL

$31 x 100,000 = 3.1 Million ....

JoshLowry
01-24-2008, 10:15 AM
+1

nc4rp
01-24-2008, 10:18 AM
great idea. i will be lucky if i can come up with $51 for the Feb 1st moneybomb. ill try to donate $31 by the 31st for Sebrin though. great Work sir!

born2drv
01-24-2008, 10:20 AM
Just curious....

Who is he running against and what are his prospects?

I'll support him regardless because he got Ron's stamp of approval, but I'm just curious how "electable" he is? :)

PatriotOne
01-24-2008, 10:24 AM
I admire Sabrin, but his site is just one huge RP advertisement.

I was perusing Murray's website yesterday and noticed the same thing. He has nothing posted about the issues and so far seems to be depending on everyone knowing RP's ideology. Hopefully this is just because he is still developing his website and is working on his own writings.

I still sent him some money yesterday as I am comfortable with RP's endorsement of him. But I hope he doesn't assume everybody can come to the same conclusions. He needs to reach out beyond the staunch RP educated supporters also. For now, I am just assuming he's working on it.

llepard
01-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Just curious....

Who is he running against and what are his prospects?

I'll support him regardless because he got Ron's stamp of approval, but I'm just curious how "electable" he is? :)

Very electable. Read the Max Raskin article linked above.

He is running against a wealthy republican real estate developer in the Primary.

Then he goes up against Frank Lautenberg (sitting Dem. ) in the general. Lautenberg is old (84) and not particularly well liked.

I think Sabrin's chances are extremely good. New Jersey is a large high profile state. Having a Freedom Revolution guy as a Senator would be HUGE. He is an economics professor and lives near the largest media market in the U.S. Wait until he starts getting on CNBC and other outlets talking about sound money and the FED. Talk about education!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a great opportunity for the Revolution. Please help is you can.

PimpBlimp
01-24-2008, 10:35 AM
already gave the guy 25$

itshappening
01-24-2008, 10:40 AM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/raskin/raskin32.html

that's a great article, thanks Larry...

"This is no long-shot bid – with the proper resources, Sabrin will win the primary."

billyjoeallen
01-24-2008, 10:40 AM
Thank you, Mr. Llepard.

CurtisLow
01-24-2008, 10:57 AM
Bump

Donate!

georgeajjan
01-24-2008, 10:58 AM
Dr. Sabrin is widely known in respected in Republican/conservative/libertarian circles in NJ and has been for many years. So this is no long-shot bid. This is a WINNABLE race.

The GOP primary, which takes place on June 3, pits Dr. Sabrin against Anne Estabrook, a self-funded go-along-to-get-along "moderate" and State Senator Joe Pennacchio, a big government "compassionate conservative".

Given Dr. Sabrin's credentials, his oratory skills, and his message, winning the primary should not be a problem if he raises enough money to compete with Estabrook's wealth. No matter how much she puts in, she can never compete with the freedom-loving volunteers that will work day and night for the Ron Paul/Murray Sabrin message.

Once Dr. Sabrin wins the primary, he has to beat 84-year-old Democrat incumbent Frank Lautenberg. Expect it to be one of the hottest Senate races in the US, and with the help of everyone here, expect Dr. Sabrin to WIN!

Imagine when we take OUR seat in the United States Senate, and what Dr. Sabrin can accomplish with the media access he'll have since he lives just minutes away from the media center of the world in NYC.

Dr. Sabrin will take this Freedom movement to the next level - so please contribute $31 by the 31st of January to make it a reality.

watch the video of Ron Paul endorsing him, and contribute at http://www.sabrinforsenate.com

itshappening
01-24-2008, 11:22 AM
you have us excited now :cool:

jumpyg1258
01-24-2008, 11:33 AM
I have a question, if he's such a great guy why doesn't Paul pick him to be his running mate?

Dutch
01-24-2008, 11:51 AM
Welcome back, my man!

Dutch

Mark
01-24-2008, 01:58 PM
Dr Paul has said that he needs like minded supporters in Congress.

Most all of us can afford at least $31. I'm going to do my part in donating to Murray, let's all do what we can.

http://www.sabrinforsenate.com/

.

FireofLiberty
01-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Hey Llepard,

Just wanted to say I really admire everything you've done for RP and now what you're doing for Sabrin. I'm going to try to help out Sabrin when I can.

By the way, any help you could provide to BJ Lawson, RPR running in North Carolina's 4th District, would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.lawsonforcongress.com

PimpBlimp
01-24-2008, 02:48 PM
bump

TexMac
01-24-2008, 02:52 PM
I was perusing Murray's website yesterday and noticed the same thing. He has nothing posted about the issues and so far seems to be depending on everyone knowing RP's ideology. Hopefully this is just because he is still developing his website and is working on his own writings.

I still sent him some money yesterday as I am comfortable with RP's endorsement of him. But I hope he doesn't assume everybody can come to the same conclusions. He needs to reach out beyond the staunch RP educated supporters also. For now, I am just assuming he's working on it.

Murray Sabrin archive:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sabrin/sabrin-arch.html

ARealConservative
01-24-2008, 02:57 PM
I sent $131.

Good Luck!!!!

seeker5
01-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Same here, it's exciting to see Ron Paul paving the way for others of the same beliefs to go to Congress! Llepard - It's great that you're throwing your name behind Murray Sabrin as you hold a lot of respect.

Cowlesy
01-25-2008, 03:41 PM
bump

Hook
01-26-2008, 12:45 AM
Good to see Mr. Lepard back

Crickett
01-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Good to see Mr. Lepard back

I second that. He has done a lot to further the campaign and is a true American front-line fighter.

JeffSchulman
01-26-2008, 07:09 AM
Mr. Lepard,
I know that I'm just some random guy on the internet, but I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you are doing to advance liberty in our lifetime.

In Liberty,
Jeff Schulman

dawnbt
01-26-2008, 11:56 AM
Welcome back, Larry!!

Mystile
01-27-2008, 04:13 PM
is he running on the GOP ticket?

edit: I guess so.

Mark
01-28-2008, 04:34 PM
Very electable. Read the Max Raskin article linked above.

He is running against a wealthy republican real estate developer in the Primary.

Then he goes up against Frank Lautenberg (sitting Dem. ) in the general. Lautenberg is old (84) and not particularly well liked.

I think Sabrin's chances are extremely good. New Jersey is a large high profile state. Having a Freedom Revolution guy as a Senator would be HUGE. He is an economics professor and lives near the largest media market in the U.S. Wait until he starts getting on CNBC and other outlets talking about sound money and the FED. Talk about education!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a great opportunity for the Revolution. Please help is you can.

Just donated $31

Ron has said he needs help in Congress - let's get him that help:

31 for the win --> www.sabrinforsenate.com (http://www.sabrinforsenate.com/)

.

Knightskye
01-28-2008, 11:29 PM
I have a question, if he's such a great guy why doesn't Paul pick him to be his running mate?

He's saving the VP slot for Stossel. :D That, and he can't force someone to be his running-mate.

brianewart
01-30-2008, 10:31 PM
Just curious....

Who is he running against and what are his prospects?

I'll support him regardless because he got Ron's stamp of approval, but I'm just curious how "electable" he is? :)

He's running against Anne Estabrook and Joe Pennachio. On a RedJersey.com poll, it was a very tight race between the three, I believe Sabrin was running second place. He's ran for Governor before -- he got the most votes of any LP candidate in NJ ever when he did. He's also ran for Senate before, although Doug Forrester bought the primary and lost the general election.

I think he has a REAL chance of winning IF he raises enough money. Right now Estabrook has 2million or so in her campaign account (meaning that $31k isn't going to do it for us).

Mark
02-03-2008, 01:55 AM
bump

Everyone subscribe to Murray Sabrin's youtube channel...NOW!!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=1163315

Here are his latest videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UmloI5LumA

AND http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZEX0hYOZIg

SabrinForSenate
02-03-2008, 09:24 AM
He's running against Anne Estabrook and Joe Pennachio. On a RedJersey.com poll, it was a very tight race between the three, I believe Sabrin was running second place. He's ran for Governor before -- he got the most votes of any LP candidate in NJ ever when he did. He's also ran for Senate before, although Doug Forrester bought the primary and lost the general election.

I think he has a REAL chance of winning IF he raises enough money. Right now Estabrook has 2million or so in her campaign account (meaning that $31k isn't going to do it for us).

The thing about Estabrook is that in NJ politics, when a conservative Republican runs against a liberal--the conservative always wins. I think we should be more worried about Pennachio. Because once he drops out when he realizes he can't raise the money, conservatives (and their $$$s) will rally around Sabrin. That's why it's important for him to raise a lot of money real quick.

MayTheRonBeWithYou
02-04-2008, 12:29 AM
Murray should post here! He will get a great response!!

SabrinForSenate
02-06-2008, 03:20 PM
Murray should post here! He will get a great response!!
Definitely, and that's something important to him. His campaign wants to be in direct contact with the grassroots and really will listen to any suggestions. I'm sure his staffers will cajole him into making an appearance here.

MurraySabrin
02-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Ask, and you will receive.

Chester Copperpot
02-07-2008, 02:46 PM
Ask, and you will receive.

Hey Murray, great to see you.

Ive got a pm for ya.

Nirvikalpa
02-07-2008, 02:56 PM
Murray! I saw you speak on behalf of Ron Paul at the Woodbridge CWA Straw Poll. You did wonderfully. I am going to donate to your campaign as soon as I can possibly can.

T206
02-09-2008, 01:19 PM
Ask, and you will receive.

Bump for Murray...make sure to donate people

Murray, if you will be posting here, you should put the link to your site in your signature to make it a little easier for people to get to your site. :)

http://www.murraysabrin.com/

Teflon Master
02-09-2008, 05:00 PM
I support Murray Sabrin.

I believe you should watch this video of one senator who ran an underdog campaign and won. he maybe ideologically seperate, but to me he is an inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesQrJ8ctzQ

Matt Collins
02-20-2008, 07:40 PM
but I'm just curious how "electable" he is?Well, you should'nt vote for Ron Paul because he's not "electable" :rolleyes:


I hope your comment was tongue-in-cheek because there was definitely not logic to your statement.

Cowlesy
02-26-2008, 11:25 PM
I endorse Murray Sabrin!

Bump for re-hashing a great thread!

kaleidoscope eyes
02-27-2008, 05:52 AM
Hey there llepard! and they said you were MIA!

Thanks for the info, glad to see you around. ;)

sajorojas
02-27-2008, 10:09 AM
Ask, and you will receive.

Murray Needs to post on here more. It's really good for lifting our spirits up. :cool:

Cowlesy
02-27-2008, 08:11 PM
Bump for a great thread endorsed by Larry Lepard who helped us get the full-page color ad of the Ron Paul Mosaic in the Ames Newspaper for the Ames Straw Poll in early August of 2007 (if there are even supporters here who still remember that effort back in early August).

Come on everyone, let's help Dr. Sabrin -- he's authentic!

HollyforRP
02-27-2008, 08:15 PM
K it all makes sense now.

Murray, I have been getting emails from you without me signing up for it but if Ron Paul endorses you then so do I.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivEGITmMazc

Exarel
02-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Thanks for the update

Jeremy
02-27-2008, 08:39 PM
Tomorrow I will be posting "100 Reasons Why You Should Donate to Murray Sabrin on Friday"

quantized
02-27-2008, 08:46 PM
went to his website. very impressed by his CV. it makes me happy to see highly intelligent people like him joining the politics. good luck!!!

SabrinForSenate
02-27-2008, 09:01 PM
went to his website. very impressed by his CV. it makes me happy to see highly intelligent people like him joining the politics. good luck!!!
Yeah...but not only is he intelligent, but being a professor gives him the public speaking skills necessary to be an effective candidate and Senator. He is also a fantastic debater as we shall all soon see.

gerryb
02-27-2008, 09:02 PM
I have a question, if he's such a great guy why doesn't Paul pick him to be his running mate?

Because he needs someone in the Senate!

Cowlesy
02-27-2008, 09:04 PM
D@mn how awesome would it be if we had a Ron Paul type in the freakin' senate. Able to filibuster to the nth' degree.

It'd cause the country to blink and re-examine where we are headed. We need THAT now more than ever.

Damn it, GO MURRAY SABRIN!

Cowlesy
02-27-2008, 09:54 PM
bump

jaybone
02-27-2008, 10:19 PM
The entire Movement needs to bring full force to bear to win this election for Murray Sabrin.
Consider it another "grand gesture" to complement the march.
Jersey is tiny, and full of independent voters that are getting hit in the wallet HARD right now due to the largesse of Trenton.
Know this, we can win here if we work together!

And please, please Mr. Sabrin bring a vote integrity specialist into the campaign early in the game.

pacelli
02-27-2008, 10:38 PM
I'm all about Dr. Sabrin, on many levels. This is extremely important. Ron in white house, Murray in senate. Imagine where that could end up!

HollyforRP
02-27-2008, 10:40 PM
meh, let's pull together for ALL Ron Paul supporters running!

<---Is over the email list :)

pacelli
02-27-2008, 10:43 PM
meh, let's pull together for ALL Ron Paul supporters running!

<---Is over the email list :)

Already have!

Jerome
02-27-2008, 11:06 PM
Props to all of you patriots. Support Murray Sabrin.

Kotin
02-27-2008, 11:40 PM
bump

SabrinForSenate
02-28-2008, 06:17 AM
Props to all of you patriots. Support Murray Sabrin.
Let's try to make the 29th a huge day for Dr. Sabrin.

Mark
02-28-2008, 07:07 AM
Let's try to make the 29th a huge day for Dr. Sabrin.

A little huge preview:

Huge Day on the 29th for Dr Murray Sabrin!!

itshappening
02-28-2008, 07:11 AM
YES !!

this is critical. Murray needs our support..........

Cowlesy
02-28-2008, 11:04 AM
bump

IRO-bot
02-28-2008, 12:08 PM
Murray is a great man! Of the Found Father kind, just like Ron!!!

frasu
02-28-2008, 12:22 PM
Friday, Febr 29, big day for Murray:

Money Bomb (http://www.murraysabrin.com/home.aspx)

and

Legalize Freedom Rally Downtown NY!
4:00-5:00 p.m. (after the close of the New York Stock Exchange)
Bowling Green Park
Whitehall Street and Broadway
New York City
(four blocks from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York)

Anti Federalist
02-28-2008, 12:25 PM
Bump for a great thread endorsed by Larry Lepard who helped us get the full-page color ad of the Ron Paul Mosaic in the Ames Newspaper for the Ames Straw Poll in early August of 2007 (if there are even supporters here who still remember that effort back in early August).

Come on everyone, let's help Dr. Sabrin -- he's authentic!

Oh I'm still here and remember just fine.

I had the pleasure of meeting Larry at the Fanuiel Hall Tea Party rally back in December.

Larry, good to see you back around! And good to see you are still keeping active in the "movement".

And also a welcome to Murray!

I'm an old Jersey boy from way back, born in Belmar, went to Asbury Park HS and lived in Bricktown for most of the time I was living in Jersey.

I'll be supporting you.

AggieforPaul
02-28-2008, 12:29 PM
Thanks for your contributions.

Cowlesy
02-29-2008, 11:46 AM
bump

yongrel
02-29-2008, 11:52 AM
I donated to Murray today.

linusPAULing
02-29-2008, 12:31 PM
bump

LibertyEagle
02-29-2008, 01:32 PM
bump

Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice
02-29-2008, 01:36 PM
just donated $100.

good luck Dr. Sabrin.

linusPAULing
02-29-2008, 02:43 PM
bump

linusPAULing
02-29-2008, 04:45 PM
bump

LibertyEagle
02-29-2008, 05:56 PM
bump

OferNave
02-29-2008, 06:41 PM
$100!

itshappening
02-29-2008, 06:57 PM
Please support Murray, today is his day!

http://www.murraysabrin.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/
http://www.murraysabrin.com/

MRoCkEd
02-29-2008, 07:13 PM
I hope llepard uses his money to run ads for murray in all the NJ papers
he has already done plenty for RP, but it would be great, and easier to cover 1 state

LibertyEagle
02-29-2008, 10:16 PM
bump

linusPAULing
03-01-2008, 12:55 AM
Please notify your meetups and myspace/facebook friends. We desperately need this man in the Senate.

Cowlesy
04-02-2008, 09:58 PM
bump

brianewart
04-02-2008, 11:46 PM
If you believe in the Freedom messagee and have the means I strongly believe that Dr. Sabrin deserves your support.

Money wasted. There are two major problems with Sabrin's campaign:

1) He's running a ridiculously un-Paulian negative campaign that has turned off almost all of NJ's GOP regulars. He cannot win a Republican primary in NJ without the support of some of these people.

2) He has pledged to resign from the Senate if the troops are in Iraq after 2010. That means, that if after ONE YEAR in office, even if he has relentlessly advocated for the change we seek, even if he has done a lot to help, he will resign, unless the rest of Congress (or at least 40% of the Senate) agree with him. Leaving NJ with a Jon Corzine appointee to represent us instead of a Ron Paul republican.

Fatal Flaws.

I have withdrawn my support from Dr. Sabrin's campaign for these reasons and will most likely be voting for a third-party candidate OR abstaining in this election.

Roxi
04-03-2008, 12:21 AM
it wasn't just any old advertisements you ran... it was THE BEST personally funded advertisement that i saw (although, i do love the mosaic, but i mean actual articles)

anyone who didn't see "an open letter to the american people" needs to read it ASAP

jaybone
04-03-2008, 11:14 AM
1) He's running a ridiculously un-Paulian negative campaign that has turned off almost all of NJ's GOP regulars. He cannot win a Republican primary in NJ without the support of some of these people.



Aggressive campaigns based on TRUTH are not negative, they are simply truthful.
And if you can find someone that is better on another ticket in NJ, then knock yourself out. Murray has my vote because he shares my ideals, and that is ALL that matters.

No disrespect to the good Dr, but he could learn a few things from the Sabrin campaign; sometimes the gloves have to come off, otherwise you are simply too easy to ignore. Murray has already given one of his opponents a stroke, she dropped out, and all but destroyed Jersey Joe, who will drop out shortly.
The latest in the parade of tools the Reps have trotted out has enough skeletons in his closet to fill a cemetery.
The jerkoff the dems are putting up has a long track record of supporting the war in Iraq.

The fact is, there are more indies in NJ than dems and reps combined. The war and economy are the only things on the minds of voters, and only Murray has the right answers.

brianewart
04-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Aggressive campaigns based on TRUTH are not negative, they are simply truthful.
Attacking Ununue for owning a nightclub and calling him a playboy, and calling county chairmen by schoolyard insult nick-names is NOT an aggressive campaign based on TRUTH. It is divisive and it alienates him from the people who will ultimately choose a candidate.


And if you can find someone that is better on another ticket in NJ, then knock yourself out. Murray has my vote because he shares my ideals, and that is ALL that matters.
He shares my ideals, but he gives them a bad name with the way he is campaigning. He is a caricature of every insult people have for Ron Paul supporters.


No disrespect to the good Dr, but he could learn a few things from the Sabrin campaign; sometimes the gloves have to come off, otherwise you are simply too easy to ignore.
The gloves did come off. Watch Paul's CPAC speech. That was the way to do it. Fight your campaign ON THE ISSUES. Sabrin is launching ad hominem attacks and making childish demands that just about everyone in the party resign. You need to WIN an election BEFORE you have enough clout to ask for someone's job.


Murray has already given one of his opponents a stroke, she dropped out, and all but destroyed Jersey Joe, who will drop out shortly.
Pennacchio is still polling higher than Sabrin. What destroyed Jersey Joe was Ununue and Crowley getting in the race. And BTW, Estabrook REALLY DID have a stroke. No joke. Really. She did. Sabrin didn't cause it either.


The fact is, there are more indies in NJ than dems and reps combined. The war and economy are the only things on the minds of voters, and only Murray has the right answers.

Ok, Great. There are more independents. Independents don't come out in droves for REPUBLICAN primaries. You have to win with the REPUBLICANS if you want to win a REPUBLICAN primary. The "indies" don't matter until you have the nomination.

Cowlesy
04-03-2008, 09:59 PM
bump

skyorbit
04-04-2008, 12:05 AM
Money wasted. There are two major problems with Sabrin's campaign:

1) He's running a ridiculously un-Paulian negative campaign that has turned off almost all of NJ's GOP regulars. He cannot win a Republican primary in NJ without the support of some of these people.

2) He has pledged to resign from the Senate if the troops are in Iraq after 2010. That means, that if after ONE YEAR in office, even if he has relentlessly advocated for the change we seek, even if he has done a lot to help, he will resign, unless the rest of Congress (or at least 40% of the Senate) agree with him. Leaving NJ with a Jon Corzine appointee to represent us instead of a Ron Paul republican.

Fatal Flaws.

I have withdrawn my support from Dr. Sabrin's campaign for these reasons and will most likely be voting for a third-party candidate OR abstaining in this election.

You can still vote for him in the Primery. And then if he doesn't win, abstain.

The way I see it. Paul's Gentalmanly aproch didn't work. It's time to try a new tactic and try to reach the type of people that hears things in this manner this time.


Tracy

brianewart
04-04-2008, 03:27 PM
You can still vote for him in the Primery. And then if he doesn't win, abstain.

I hope I explained why I cannot vote for him in the primary (he promised to quit on me). I prefer that my congressional representation be committed to representing me, rather than quitting in a hissy fit over a single issue.

You don't quit the war because you lose one battle. If they had that attitude during the revolution, we'd all still be spelling color with a "U".


The way I see it. Paul's Gentalmanly aproch didn't work. It's time to try a new tactic and try to reach the type of people that hears things in this manner this time.


The way I see it, Ron Paul's approach DID work. Look at what his approach spawned. You're posting on it now. People who never would've gotten behind his message otherwise, were receptive to it because of his demeanor. They respected him because he represented honesty, principle and most importantly: professionalism.

Nonetheless, if you DO run a negative campaign you have to run it right. Look at how Hillary does it: she'll smile and complement Obama on stage at a debate, and "leak" the negatives later on. You can't go out there like a pit-bull non-stop.

Sabrin has built a bad reputation for himself in the NJ GOP. There is no way he can get the nomination, and frankly, I don't want him to.

There is still time left though, if someone who is from NJ wants to get in the race. I will fully back a Ron Paul republican who promises to run a clean campaign, and I will do everything I can to aid them.

boggie08
04-05-2008, 09:07 AM
You can still vote for him in the Primery. And then if he doesn't win, abstain.

The way I see it. Paul's Gentalmanly aproch didn't work. It's time to try a new tactic and try to reach the type of people that hears things in this manner this time.

I think it is better to support Sabrin than not, but if you cannot get excited about Sabrin, find something else to do. Lord knows there is more than enough work for everyone.

I think Paul's gentlemanly approach is the only reason we could not be completely dismissed as nuts. Look what happened to Mike Gravel. He was the "tough guy," and people thought he was crazy. If Ron Paul had not been a gentleman, he never would have gotten as far as he had.

jaybone
04-08-2008, 08:12 AM
I hope I explained why I cannot vote for him in the primary (he promised to quit on me). I prefer that my congressional representation be committed to representing me, rather than quitting in a hissy fit over a single issue.

You don't quit the war because you lose one battle. If they had that attitude during the revolution, we'd all still be spelling color with a "U".



The way I see it, Ron Paul's approach DID work. Look at what his approach spawned. You're posting on it now. People who never would've gotten behind his message otherwise, were receptive to it because of his demeanor. They respected him because he represented honesty, principle and most importantly: professionalism.

Nonetheless, if you DO run a negative campaign you have to run it right. Look at how Hillary does it: she'll smile and complement Obama on stage at a debate, and "leak" the negatives later on. You can't go out there like a pit-bull non-stop.

Sabrin has built a bad reputation for himself in the NJ GOP. There is no way he can get the nomination, and frankly, I don't want him to.

There is still time left though, if someone who is from NJ wants to get in the race. I will fully back a Ron Paul republican who promises to run a clean campaign, and I will do everything I can to aid them.

You would do well to use your energy to support a candidate that you approve of, rather than trying to tear down those that you do not approve of.
Positive campaigns, remember.
Your negativity is of NO use to any of us here, so start your own thread titled "Sabrin Stinks" and do what you want, otherwise piss off.

CGMike
04-08-2008, 02:10 PM
Good god people, this is a New Jersey race we're talking about. People in Jersey just don't play well with others. Actually I thought the PolitickerNJ.com cartoon was hilarious too...Murray makes Ron Paul cry... If this was any other candidate other than Murray we wouldn't be hearing about this at all. NJ politics aren't for the weak...can't handle it? Move to one of those warm and fuzzy states...like New York.

I firmly stand in Murray's camp! He'll bring meaning to Jersey's motto of "Liberty and Prosperity"

brianewart
04-08-2008, 08:27 PM
You would do well to use your energy to support a candidate that you approve of, rather than trying to tear down those that you do not approve of.
Positive campaigns, remember.
Your negativity is of NO use to any of us here, so start your own thread titled "Sabrin Stinks" and do what you want, otherwise piss off.

Since I AM ACTUALLY A NJ RESIDENT, the matter of ACTUALLY HAVING A SENATOR to represent me is kind of IMPORTANT TO ME.

So why don't the rest of you piss off and leave NJ alone, rather than trying to force a quitter on us.


Good god people, this is a New Jersey race we're talking about. People in Jersey just don't play well with others.
And right now, none of the New Jersey Republicans are playing well with Murray. He's going to lose the primary because he hasn't endeared himself to the very voters he's seeking the support of.


I firmly stand in Murray's camp! He'll bring meaning to Jersey's motto of "Liberty and Prosperity"
Yeah, he'll bring meaning to it, for a year. Then, when President McCain still has troops in Iraq, he's going to pack it up and go home. Meanwhile, Governor Corzine will appoint another Bob Menendez to bring you more "Authority and Poverty."

Enjoy.

lukemroz
04-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Brian,

Who will you be voting for in the NJ U.S. Senate race primary, if not Murray Sabrin? One of the candidates who supports an interventionist foreign policy? The deadline has passed for new candidates to enter the race.

Cowlesy
04-08-2008, 09:33 PM
Dr. Sabrin for the win!!

Cowlesy
04-18-2008, 07:15 PM
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Take no prisoners Dr. Sabrin!

ronpaulhawaii
04-18-2008, 07:18 PM
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Take no prisoners Dr. Sabrin!

:eek: methinks a w00t for Cowlsey is in order :)

Cowlesy
04-18-2008, 07:20 PM
I wish Larry Lepard was still around. What a great Patriot. He's already donated the max for primary/general for he and his wife. I'm going to have to give him a ring tomorrow to see what's new.

Cowlesy
04-18-2008, 07:56 PM
Come on. Some lurker on here go all-in and match me! Sabrin for Senate!

ronpaulhawaii
04-18-2008, 09:06 PM
Bump