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RonPaulFanInGA
01-23-2008, 08:56 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/725towx.jpg

Not trying to be a downer in the least. I'm 100% committed to doing everything possible to see Ron Paul elected President this coming November. Also I prefer he be the republican nominee.

But the odds of winning of the republican nomination are mildly low. I think most here will admit that. And with ballot access laws in some states being near criminal, time is very important. There is no reason to stick in this race till April and then try to switch. The other biggest obstable for a third party candidate is money. Paul has that and could get plenty more no-doubt and money is the biggest reason why it's rare to see any third party candidate pull 5% in a national presidential election. No sense spending it on a republican nomination if you want to run a different way later.

With the likely (at this point, things can change quickly like they did with McCain and Huckabee) nominees being big-government, pro-war candidates like Romney, McCain and Clinton, Paul could easily get the support to get into the debates (10%) and pound his message and hopefully win.

Again, I'm not advocating it or being negative. I'm just saying if Paul is going to run third party or independent, do it now and not later. That's all, end of story, period. If Dr. Paul has absolutely no intentions whatsoever of doing that, then I will gladly give it all I got to get him the republican nomination.

Manganese
01-23-2008, 09:00 PM
I say we take on one party at a time, or we don't stand a chance taking on both. We win the Republican nomination. It can be done.

Ron Paul says the two party system is biased and unfair, and I agree. I don't want to put him or myself through running as a third party.

nodope0695
01-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Why do you have Wolfe Blitzer http://www.ronpaulforums.com/image.php?u=6864&dateline=1198288902 as your avatar?

Third party? No, sir.

I'm not going to call you a troll, but I am going to say I'm suspicious.

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/111/0/e/Don__t_feed_the_Troll.jpg

wortguy
01-23-2008, 09:04 PM
I think the odds are in his favor - the rest of the Republicans are very weak and flawed, and we are gaining enthusiastic supporters every day. We need to take over the Republican Party. Too many AMericans out there are brainwashed to stick with the major parties. The infrastructure is there already to get things done. Look how far Ron Paul has gotten! The Neo-cons can eventually go back to the Democratic Party and we will take control of the Rep Party. That should be the goal.
Start preparing to run for office, all you Ron Paul Republicans!!!

ShowMeLiberty
01-23-2008, 09:06 PM
I think we need a new game. Every time somebody on this forum mentions "RP should run as 3rd party" they have to donate $10.00 to the campaign. And post their confirmation number.

What do you all think? :D

phree
01-23-2008, 09:07 PM
Seriously, Wolf Blitzer? Am I missing something?

spudea
01-23-2008, 09:09 PM
He can rally a great deal of support in the GOP field. Sticking through it till the end will build his support for an independant run.

nodope0695
01-23-2008, 09:09 PM
I think we need a new game. Everycc time somebody on this forum mentions "RP should run as 3rd party" they have to donate $10.00 to the campaign. And post their confirmation number.

What do you all think? :D

I'm all for it. Anybody who mentions a third party run is, in my humble opinion, a suspected troll.

Ron Paul has said he has no intention of running on a third party ticket. What part of "no intention" do people not understand.

Cleaner44
01-23-2008, 09:10 PM
Why do you have Wolfe Blitzer as your avatar? Third party? No, sir.

I'm not going to call you a troll, but I am going to say I'm suspicious.

I agree. Let this thread die.

Rebel Resource
01-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Ron has to milk the republican procedure, the debates in particular. Then after we've failed in the nomination, only then do we start to build a 3rd party movement.

TSOL
01-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Let him run as a Republican; and them when needed, let everyone know he's going for it all !

Goldwater Conservative
01-23-2008, 09:13 PM
Hey look, Dick Armey!

Rhys
01-23-2008, 09:13 PM
leading a pic of a cute girl is typical marketing to lower defences and creating an illogical positive emotional response before you deliver an illogical proposition.

and something i've never seen done on these forums at least.

who are you? :)

edit: i love the "truthiness" of CNN, the somberness of the question header in the pic, the look in her eyes. very clever.

Kotin
01-23-2008, 09:14 PM
NO.

he needs some wins first.

Akus
01-23-2008, 09:15 PM
http://i13.tinypic.com/725towx.jpg

Not trying to be a downer in the least. I'm 100% committed to doing everything possible to see Ron Paul elected President this coming November. Also I prefer he be the republican nominee.

But the odds of winning of the republican nomination are mildly low. I think most here will admit that. And with ballot access laws in some states being near criminal, time is very important. There is no reason to stick in this race till April and then try to switch. The other biggest obstable for a third party candidate is money. Paul has that and could get plenty more no-doubt and money is the biggest reason why it's rare to see any third party candidate pull 5% in a national presidential election. No sense spending it on a republican nomination if you want to run a different way later.

With the likely (at this point, things can change quickly like they did with McCain and Huckabee) nominees being big-government, pro-war candidates like Romney, McCain and Clinton, Paul could easily get the support to get into the debates (10%) and pound his message and hopefully win.

Again, I'm not advocating it or being negative. I'm just saying if Paul is going to run third party or independent, do it now and not later. That's all, end of story, period. If Dr. Paul has absolutely no intentions whatsoever of doing that, then I will gladly give it all I got to get him the republican nomination.

No.

We will lose more prospective interested Republicans, who supported Hunter and Thompson and are still supporting Huckabee and Romney then we'd gain the Libertarians, Independents, Constitutionalists and other non-Republicans and non-Democrats.

AlexMerced
01-23-2008, 09:17 PM
yeah, we just got to keep pushing and survive the marathon and hope there's enough contempt for romney built from all the other candidates supporters to score us the win.

Azprint
01-23-2008, 09:19 PM
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SeanEdwards
01-23-2008, 09:19 PM
I don't neccesarily think a third party run is a bad idea, but you need to realize that Paul will not be invited to any debates, no matter how much money or support he has. Excluding third party candidates is child's play for the assholes inside the machine. They've been doing it forfreakinever.

A successful third party run would truly have to be a grassroots revolution, because Paul would get zero mass media coverage. Even less coverage than he gets now.

But I don't think it's impossible. I just think we'd have to raise megabucks and buy our own mass media time.

jawrightbiz
01-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Look, I was a democrat before I voted for Ron Paul in Michigan. We are running this damn thing to the end on the Republican ticket. I see now that if we elect a true conservative republican our country will be on track to its true glory!

AlexMerced
01-23-2008, 09:21 PM
Look, I was a democrat before I voted for Ron Paul in Michigan. We are running this damn thing to the end on the Republican ticket. I see now that if we elect a true conservative republican our country will be on track to its true glory!

same here, but I will get to vote for paul on feb 5th in NY :), our democrats turned republicans is our secret weapon ST if they all turnout, cause we arn't tabulated into the expectations, especially ith the inevitiable low turn out of ST

nodope0695
01-23-2008, 09:22 PM
Look, I was a democrat before I voted for Ron Paul in Michigan. We are running this damn thing to the end on the Republican ticket. I see now that if we elect a true conservative republican our country will be on track to its true glory!

Here, Here!!! Thank you sir.

John P Slevin
01-23-2008, 09:23 PM
I say we take on one party at a time, or we don't stand a chance taking on both. We win the Republican nomination. It can be done.

Ron Paul says the two party system is biased and unfair, and I agree. I don't want to put him or myself through running as a third party.

Ron Paul is taking on both parties. Neither is going to nominate an anti-war, sound money candidate. Not now, not ten years from now.

The time for Ron Paul to make a decision is rapidly approaching. I'd love to see him stomp all over the opposition on February 5. If after February 5 he doesn't have a mathematical possibility of getting the nomination, he should switch, and all those who support him should support his independent/third party run.

AlexMerced
01-23-2008, 09:27 PM
I'll support him to win, but we still have a lot more of a chance in this race than people would expect if we can hold out and keep fighting strong

speciallyblend
01-23-2008, 09:29 PM
NO NO NO,first keep getting the real republicans on our side dont do it unless they ignore him on convention day,then in mass leave the republican party the next day and send the hillary republicans a box of depends;)


bulld the base up before you leave;) keep spreading the message to real republicans;)

Molly1
01-23-2008, 09:32 PM
I think Ron Paul should give the Republicans every chance to kick out the neo-cons, fascists, socialists, and liberals that have invaded their party and REPENT!!!!!

If they don't do that, they won't win in November, and Dr. Paul can run third party if he chooses.

HELLO REPUBLICAN PARTY, AMERICA IS FED UP!

Carry on, and vote Ron Paul. :)

MayTheRonBeWithYou
01-23-2008, 09:42 PM
Ron has said we will see where we're at after Feb 5. So hang in there until then.

In the meantime, check out the website in my signature. It's a site dedicated to RP's indy run.

dvictr
01-23-2008, 09:43 PM
Ron has to milk the republican procedure, the debates in particular. Then after we've failed in the nomination, only then do we start to build a 3rd party movement.

BUMP!

InLoveWithRon
01-23-2008, 09:45 PM
The answer is NOW's NOT THE TIME !!!!

Ron Paul will be in 3 VERY IMPORTANT debates soon.. Florida's tomorrow night, California debate, and the super tuesday debate.. Ron Paul needs to speak at these debates and lay the hammer down.. It's great air time for him.. It would be assinine to pull out "now" for a 3rd party.

morerocklesstalk
01-23-2008, 09:47 PM
Why does he have to run as an independent now?

If he does decide later, every primary and caucus we are in basically like advertising. By deciding to right now, we would lose out on the focus we are recieving.

smartpeople4ronpaul
01-23-2008, 09:47 PM
Why do you have Wolfe Blitzer http://www.ronpaulforums.com/image.php?u=6864&dateline=1198288902 as your avatar?

Third party? No, sir.

I'm not going to call you a troll, but I am going to say I'm suspicious.

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/111/0/e/Don__t_feed_the_Troll.jpg

I totally agree. Watch what you say about being nagative towards the Ron Paul campaign.

morerocklesstalk
01-23-2008, 09:49 PM
The answer is NOW's NOT THE TIME !!!!

Ron Paul will be in 3 VERY IMPORTANT debates soon.. Florida's tomorrow night, California debate, and the super tuesday debate.. Ron Paul needs to speak at these debates and lay the hammer down.. It's great air time for him.. It would be assinine to pull out "now" for a 3rd party.

I agree now wouldn't be the time. It makes no sense to give up all this press we are going to recieve.

dvictr
01-23-2008, 09:49 PM
Ron has to milk the republican procedure, the debates in particular.

BUMP;););)

spudea
01-23-2008, 10:07 PM
Hold...

http://www.doubleviking.com/dv_images/battle_scenes/stirling.jpg

Guymontag
01-23-2008, 10:20 PM
I cant believe you guys are shooting down the 3rd party idea after the debacle in LA. Its obvious that the GOP is going to do everything in AND OUTSIDE of their power to deny Ron Paul the nomination. If you dont fall in step with the war then you wont get a nomination from the evil empire. With that said I will support Ron Paul throughout his bid to obtain the Republican Presidential nomination, and thats also what the OP said. So chill on the troll remarks.

ronpaulyourmom
01-23-2008, 10:25 PM
www.ronpaulwhitehouse.com

Dont give up on the nomination yet though, there's a small outside chance still. Let's see how the debates go.

InLoveWithRon
01-23-2008, 10:25 PM
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You have been caught RED HANDED !!! That picture is from an old debate on CNN.. Here it is, and it has that EXACT same picture on the TV screen when Ron Paul's answers the question !!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mkJcFY1VsCE&feature=user&&