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Brian4Liberty
01-21-2008, 11:54 AM
Just wait for the "food" bubble to pop...

"KUANTAN, Malaysia — Rising prices for cooking oil are forcing residents of Asia’s largest slum, in Mumbai, India, to ration every drop. Bakeries in the United States are fretting over higher shortening costs. And here in Malaysia, brand-new factories built to convert vegetable oil into diesel sit idle, their owners unable to afford the raw material.

This is the other oil shock. From India to Indiana, shortages and soaring prices for palm oil, soybean oil and many other types of vegetable oils are the latest, most striking example of a developing global problem: costly food.

The food price index of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, based on export prices for 60 internationally traded foodstuffs, climbed 37 percent last year. That was on top of a 14 percent increase in 2006, and the trend has accelerated this winter.

In some poor countries, desperation is taking hold. Just in the last week, protests have erupted in Pakistan over wheat shortages, and in Indonesia over soybean shortages. Egypt has banned rice exports to keep food at home, and China has put price controls on cooking oil, grain, meat, milk and eggs.

According to the F.A.O., food riots have erupted in recent months in Guinea, Mauritania, Mexico, Morocco, Senegal, Uzbekistan and Yemen.

“The urban poor, the rural landless and small and marginal farmers stand to lose,” said He Changchui, the agency’s chief representative for Asia and the Pacific.

A startling change is unfolding in the world’s food markets. Soaring fuel prices have altered the equation for growing food and transporting it across the globe. Huge demand for biofuels has created tension between using land to produce fuel and using it for food.

A growing middle class in the developing world is demanding more protein, from pork and hamburgers to chicken and ice cream. And all this is happening even as global climate change may be starting to make it harder to grow food in some of the places best equipped to do so, like Australia.

In the last few years, world demand for crops and meat has been rising sharply. It remains an open question how and when the supply will catch up. For the foreseeable future, that probably means higher prices at the grocery store and fatter paychecks for farmers of major crops like corn, wheat and soybeans.

There may be worse inflation to come. Food experts say steep increases in commodity prices have not fully made their way to street stalls in the developing world or supermarkets in the West.

Governments in many poor countries have tried to respond by stepping up food subsidies, imposing or tightening price controls, restricting exports and cutting food import duties.

These temporary measures are already breaking down. Across Southeast Asia, for example, families have been hoarding palm oil. Smugglers have been bidding up prices as they move the oil from more subsidized markets, like Malaysia’s, to less subsidized markets, like Singapore’s.

No category of food prices has risen as quickly this winter as so-called edible oils — with sometimes tragic results. When a Carrefour store in Chongqing, China, announced a limited-time cooking oil promotion in November, a stampede of would-be buyers left 3 people dead and 31 injured.

Cooking oil may seem a trifling expense in the West. But in the developing world, cooking oil is an important source of calories and represents one of the biggest cash outlays for poor families, which grow much of their own food but have to buy oil in which to cook it.

Few crops illustrate the emerging problems in the global food chain as well as palm oil, a vital commodity in much of the world and particularly Asia. From jungles and street markets in Southeast Asia to food companies in the United States and biodiesel factories in Europe, soaring prices for the oil are drawing environmentalists, energy companies, consumers, indigenous peoples and governments into acrimonious disputes."

continued, see link...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/business/worldbusiness/19palmoil.html?_r=1

asgardshill
01-21-2008, 12:10 PM
Pssssssst - hey buddy, want some Mazola Oil? Just fell off the back of a truck, I swear.

freelance
01-21-2008, 12:51 PM
Corn, anyone? It's being diverted to ethanol. Does everyone realize that most of our convenience food is heavily dependent upon corn and corn byproducts. I started preparing most everything from scratch last year. That'll help in the short term, but we're in BIG trouble.

Invest in some heirloom seeds and learn how to grow your own produce, or find a reputable local producer.

2orb
01-21-2008, 01:11 PM
If you have room for a small garden, you need to start growing and preserving your own food. My family has been doing this for years and it is economical and better for you than the processed stuff you buy in stores.

Self reliance = survival.

This link will get you started.
http://www.freshpreserving.com/

asgardshill
01-21-2008, 01:51 PM
I planted way WAY too much dill weed this year - I'm going to be using what I have until Judgement Trump as it is.

Better add another couple of rows of field corn this time. More 'maters too.

Brian4Liberty
01-21-2008, 01:54 PM
No worries people. President Clinton and ADM will assume control of all food production, and we will each get our fair share!

Or as some other famous leader said, "let them eat cake..."

fluoridatedbrainsoup
01-21-2008, 03:09 PM
"Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529

[excerpt]

Did we miss something here? Their press release stated, ‘so that crop diversity can be conserved for the future.’ What future do the seed bank’s sponsors foresee, that would threaten the global availability of current seeds, almost all of which are already well protected in designated seed banks around the world?

Anytime Bill Gates, the Rockefeller Foundation, Monsanto and Syngenta get together on a common project, it’s worth digging a bit deeper behind the rocks on Spitsbergen. When we do we find some fascinating things.

The first notable point is who is sponsoring the doomsday seed vault. Here joining the Norwegians are, as noted, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; the US agribusiness giant DuPont/Pioneer Hi-Bred, one of the world’s largest owners of patented genetically-modified (GMO) plant seeds and related agrichemicals; Syngenta, the Swiss-based major GMO seed and agrichemicals company through its Syngenta Foundation; the Rockefeller Foundation, the private group who created the “gene revolution with over $100 million of seed money since the 1970’s; CGIAR, the global network created by the Rockefeller Foundation to promote its ideal of genetic purity through agriculture change...

jnpg
01-21-2008, 03:16 PM
Corn, anyone? It's being diverted to ethanol. Does everyone realize that most of our convenience food is heavily dependent upon corn and corn byproducts. I started preparing most everything from scratch last year. That'll help in the short term, but we're in BIG trouble.

Invest in some heirloom seeds and learn how to grow your own produce, or find a reputable local producer.

So funny you wrote this- I just got a bunch of heirloom seeds last week- I now just need to get the garden laid out and start growing!

2young2vote
01-21-2008, 03:32 PM
I expect this to be an everyday thing here in the USA within 50 years.

bp2519
01-21-2008, 03:40 PM
This is not a "food bubble". There has been barely any investment in food for the past two decades, (it's all gone into this fabricated financial industry). Expect food prices to go up for at least the next decade

Brian4Liberty
01-21-2008, 03:41 PM
"Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529

[excerpt]

Interesting read...some of it is very far fetched and highly unlikely...

Yet the part about attempts to form a monopoly on seeds (eliminating natural heirloom seeds, and substituting genetically engineered) is likely and probable, and already partially implemented...

Brian4Liberty
01-21-2008, 03:47 PM
This is not a "food bubble". There has been barely any investment in food for the past two decades, (it's all gone into this fabricated financial industry). Expect food prices to go up for at least the next decade

Exactly.

When I said "bubble", I was referring to a bubble of cheap and plentiful food. That bubble is popping...the "food as an expensive, leveraged and manipulated commodity" bubble is just starting...