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Oyate
01-21-2008, 11:26 AM
The MSM has been blacking out RP coverage since the latest newsletter smear attack.

There's more mention of the Ghoul in the MSM today!

Call every talk show you know about and let's get our man's name out there!

Please post talk show numbers to call today in this thread!

WilliamC
01-21-2008, 11:42 AM
Called the Ben Ferguson show out of Memphis TN this morning.

He was talking about age being a factor in this race and that how McCain at 72 might be too old. He specifically said that he wasn't talking just about McCain but the issue of age in general.

I called in and mentioned that it's not the calender years, but the physical health and mental acuity were what to look far and that Ron Paul, even though 72 years old, was physically in excellent health and mentally sharp as a tack.

Of course the host then starts on about how he doesn't want to talk about Ron Paul but John McCain, and that while Ron Paul is ok on economics he has crazy ideas about foreign policy.

I said then you must mean that you think the Constitution is crazy because all Ron Paul wants is for the government to strictly follow the Constitution. Host says we can't always do that because the world is different today than it was back then, and that he has personally talked to Ron Paul and Ron Paul says crazy things.

I said what is crazy about wanting a foreign policy of non-intervention, of armed neutrality, and wanting Congress to legally declare Wars? He hung up on me and said Ron Paul had told him personally that terrorism is America's fault. He then went on to say again that Ron Paul was a good example of why old people shouldn't be President because they use crazy talk, and of course he had some disparaging things to say about Ron Paul supporters as well.

Below is my follow-up email to him. Of course he will never reply because he and most "conservative" talk show hosts like him aren't interested in factual debates. Just getting their propaganda out.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXX

Greetings Ben,

You continue to misinform your listeners about Ron Paul's foreign policy when
you state that he "blames America" for terrorism. I know you are probably too
informed and intelligent to believe this yourself, that is if you have actually
read his writings on the issue, but that's not really myh point with this email.
However, if you do have any documented evidence of Ron Paul blaming America our
Country, as opposed to bad foreign policy decisions by America's politicians,
why don't you refer to that directly? After all, he's written more about foreign
policy than any of the other candidates currently running for President, surely
somewhere he must be on record as directly "blaming America itself" as you
insist on reporting.

As you are currently talking about, the foreign markets are in deep trouble
today, immediately after Congress and the President announced a supposed plan to
stimulate the economy, and even though there is already an expectation that the
FED will drop interest rates by 1/2 percent during their next meeting. Obviously
investors aren't buying the typical rhetoric of the politicians. Maybe tomorrow
a miracle will occur and the US market won't be affected, but how likely is
that?

No matter how much you may appreciate and support the neoconservative agenda of
preemptive war and perpetual occupation of strategically important countries to
secure energy resources for the United States, it won't matter if the Federal
Government goes bankrupt trying follow this policy. I don't want that to happen.
I don't think you do either. But what do I know? According to you I'm just a
"crazy" Ron Paul supporter who supports "crazy talk", even though it is actually
the Constitution that I and hundreds of thousands of others are supporting, not
Ron Paul himself. These types of statements by you sort of detract from your
arguments. How correct can you be when you have to resort to insulting those you
disagree with, instead of backing up your positions with facts?


Yours In Liberty,

William C Colley
xxx
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=agCe8CYIk4XY&refer=home

Stocks Plummet in Germany, Hong Kong, India, Brazil in Rout

By Sarah Thompson
More Photos/Details

Jan. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Stocks plunged in Germany, Hong Kong, India and Brazil,
and U.S. index futures dropped on mounting speculation that the global economy
is slowing and company defaults will rise.

Europe's Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index fell the most since the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks and sank into a bear market, as Allianz SE and BNP Paribas SA slid. Hong
Kong's Hang Seng Index had its biggest drop in six years after BNP Paribas said
Bank of China Ltd. may write down overseas securities by $4.8 billion because of
losses from U.S. subprime mortgages. Citigroup Inc. retreated in Frankfurt.

The MSCI World Index slipped 2.4 percent to 1,402.75 at 2:44 p.m. in London,
extending its decline from an Oct. 31 record to 17 percent. India's Sensitive
Index lost the most since 2004, while Germany's DAX slid the most since March
2003. Futures on the Standard & Poor's 500 Index sank 3.4 percent. Trading in
the U.S. is closed today for Martin Luther King Day.

``It's the worst I've ever seen,'' said Johan Stein, who helps manage the
equivalent of about $14 billion at Nordea Asset Management in Stockholm. ``The
financial system is in terrible shape, and no one knows where this will end.''

Today's declines follow the worst week for U.S. stocks in five years after
President George W. Bush's $150 billion plan to revive the economy and
expectations of interest-rate cuts failed to allay recession concerns.

The risk of European companies defaulting soared to a record today on
speculation credit-rating cuts at bond insurers including Ambac Financial Group
Inc. may trigger forced asset sales. European Central Bank council member Nout
Wellink said economic growth in the region may slow more than policy makers had
expected.

Market Crisis

``This is a stock-market crisis,'' said Alberto Roldan, head of research at
Inverseguros SVB in Madrid. ``Investors believe that neither a government
package nor a huge rate cut is going to help evade a recession in the U.S.''

White House spokesman Tony Fratto said in Washington today the government
doesn't comment on daily market moves.

``We're confident that the global economy will continue to grow, and that the
U.S. economy will return to stronger growth,'' Fratto said in an e-mailed
message.

The Stoxx 600 slid 4.1 percent, extending its drop from a 6 1/2-year high on
June 1 to 22 percent. A decline of more than 20 percent is the common definition
of a bear market. The gauge earlier fell as much as 5.8 percent, which would
have been the biggest drop in six years. France's CAC 40 lost 4.9 percent. The
U.K.'s FTSE 100 sank 3.6 percent, and Germany's DAX slid 6 percent.

Volatility Climbs

The VDAX-New Index, a benchmark gauge of European stock- market volatility,
surged as much as 39 percent, the most since 2001. The measure of expected price
swings for stocks is derived from prices paid for options on Germany's DAX.

The MSCI Asia Pacific Index lost 3.7 percent. Australia's S&P/ASX 200 Index
slumped for an 11th day. Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index lost 5.5 percent. Japan's
Nikkei 225 Stock Average dropped 3.9 percent as the Finance Ministry cut its
evaluation of five of 11 regional economies as housing investment fell and
employment worsened.

The MSCI Emerging Markets Index, a global benchmark, sank 5.4 percent, extending
its retreat from an October record to 19.7 percent.

Brazil's Bovespa index slid 5.2 percent, the most since February 2007. Russia's
Micex Index declined 7.5 percent, the biggest drop since June 2006.

Canada's Standard & Poor's/TSX Composite Index fell 4.1 percent.

Allianz, Europe's biggest insurer, tumbled 8.4 percent to 122.01 euros. BNP
Paribas, France's second-biggest bank, sank 6.1 percent to 65.15 euros. ING
Groep NV, the biggest Dutch investment bank, declined 7.6 percent to 21.66
euros.

`Sharp Contraction'

``The market is finally catching on to the fact that a recession will lead to a
sharp contraction in earnings,'' said Jane Coffey, head of equities at Royal
London Asset Management, where she helps oversee about $11 billion. ``We need to
see more aggressive changes to forecasts before investors become more positive
about looking through the downturn.''

Swiss Reinsurance Co. decreased 8.5 percent to 69.9 Swiss francs. UBS AG cut its
share-price estimate for the world's largest reinsurer to 80 francs from 88,
citing the probability of more investment losses related to credit-market
problems.

``We see on-going downside risk to earnings and stock performance until we have
better visibility,'' London-based analysts including Ben Cohen wrote in a report
to investors.

Bank of China

Bank of China, which has the largest holdings among Asian banks of U.S. subprime
mortgages, slid 4.7 percent to HK$3.43. The bank may write down 17.5 billion
yuan ($2.4 billion) for the fourth quarter of 2007, and an equal amount for this
year, Dorris Chen, a Shanghai-based analyst at BNP Paribas wrote in a note on
Jan. 18.

Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the country's second largest, dropped 2.5
percent to A$51.89. National Australia Bank Ltd., the nation's largest, declined
2 percent to A$35.55.

Morgan Stanley raised its 2008 forecast for loan-loss charges at the country's
major banks by 26 percent, analyst Richard Wiles wrote in a note today, citing a
deteriorating global economy and ``the difficulty faced by some companies in
refinancing maturing debt.''

Citigroup, the biggest U.S. bank by assets, dropped 3.6 percent to $23.56 in
Frankfurt. JPMorgan Chase & Co., the second- largest U.S. bank by market value,
slid 3.2 percent to $38.30 also in Frankfurt trading.

The slump has made stocks cheap by historical standards. Europe's Stoxx 600 is
valued at 11.1 times its companies' profits, the lowest since at least 2002,
according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The 1,953-member MSCI World has a
price- earnings ratio of 14.3, the cheapest since at least 1998.

Rio Tinto

Rio Tinto Group, the world's third-biggest mining company, dropped after BHP
Billiton Ltd. failed to make a new offer. Rio, defending a hostile $108 billion
takeover bid from rival mining company BHP, fell 6.6 percent to 4,392 pence.

BHP may not make a new offer before the Feb. 6 deadline set by the U.K.'s
Takeover Panel, the London-based Times newspaper reported. The BHP board has not
met to discuss a new bid, the newspaper said, after its initial three-for-one
all share offer in November was rejected.

Samantha Evans, a BHP spokeswoman in Melbourne, declined to comment. Rio
spokeswoman Amanda Buckley also declined to comment.

To contact the reporter on this story: Sarah Thompson in London at
sthompson17@bloomberg.net .
Last Updated: January 21, 2008 10:06 EST

wgadget
01-21-2008, 11:44 AM
Yeah, and isn't it funny how they ALWAYS get the last word (and then some) after they hang up on you....

WilliamC
01-21-2008, 11:53 AM
Well it is their show...

But most of them are not up for honest debate with someone who doesn't lose their temper or who quotes too many facts at them :)

wgadget
01-21-2008, 11:55 AM
Yeah, I noticed...I'm about ready to ditch talk radio and go back to classical music on NPR.

WilliamC
01-21-2008, 11:58 AM
It's still a good forum to get information out. I've gotten two "conservative" talk show hosts to say that the US can't always follow the Constitution because the world is either too complex or too different today than it used to be.

I can't help but think there are listeners who will hear that and think "WTF? I thought conservatives supported the Constitution and here is so-and-so saying the US can't follow the constitution?"

At least that's my hope.

Cleaner44
01-21-2008, 12:05 PM
Simple facts, Rudy has only beaten RP in 1 of 6 states, Fred has only beaten RP in 3 of 6 states.

Carole
01-21-2008, 01:06 PM
Ben Ferguson is not a fan of Ron Paul. IF this is the same young pup I saw in a youtube video, he is a snot-nosed little idiot who knows not of what he speaks.

Maybe someone can find the video in which a lady wipes the floor with him on one of the MSM shows a few months back.

Carole
01-21-2008, 01:09 PM
Furthermore he thinks he knows it all and is nothing more than a spin artist wanna-be.

I cannot imagine that anyone listens to his crap. :(

BeFranklin
01-21-2008, 01:09 PM
The newsletter is an excuse. If you look at Ron Paul's praise of MLK today on his site, that should take care of it.

The real reason from the very top is because the money problems are coming, and Ron Paul is the only candidate that has been taking to task the federal reserve chairman. If there is a stock market collapse, likely the money powers feel that Ron Paul talking will make it worse, so they are blacking him out.

Thats what the common voter needs to know.

wgadget
01-21-2008, 01:13 PM
We should all get on youtube and get those RP vs. Bernanke interviews to the top somehow. I guess I'm not really sure how it works, but now would be a good time to make them go viral...Day before the Great Crash of 2008.