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LandonCook

01-20-2008, 11:33 PM

Way too slow, at this rate we will only raise 2.8 million... and thats if it doesn't slow down...

Remember, this was the 16th> http://paulcash.slact.net/December-16th/
And so far>>> http://paulcash.slact.net/

We have got to get out the money on this one. You all know how important it is.

In the morning, make sure you donate... again if you have to! and make sure you call as many supporters as possable and tell them this money bomb is hurting and we need their help.

If you have any other ideas on how to make money tonight please post them...

I don't care how you find money... call up friends, RP supporters... hell, go prostitute for all I care. Lets just make sure this doesn't turn into something the media can laugh at!

davidt!

01-20-2008, 11:35 PM

Contact everyone you know, post on forums, e-mail mlk videos, myspace , craigslist, meetups etc.

mexicanpizza

01-20-2008, 11:36 PM

Stupid thread.

PimpBlimp

01-20-2008, 11:36 PM

2.8 million would be great

LandonCook

01-20-2008, 11:37 PM

Stupid thread.

So talking about ways to get RP more money is stupid? I've donated alot of time, and money to this campaign... and i'm not going to see one thing fail on it.

2.8 million would be great

Do you realize this has been the most publisized MB? It doesn't need to be our smallest. 4.3 mill... 6.1 mill... 2 mill? come on, we can do better than that.

JimInNY

01-20-2008, 11:38 PM

So talking about ways to get RP more money is stupid? Fuck you!

Now now kids, no fighting. :cool:

m72mc

01-20-2008, 11:44 PM

ronpaulfan

01-20-2008, 11:47 PM

Do you realize this has been the most publisized MB? It doesn't need to be our smallest. 4.3 mill... 6.1 mill... 2 mill? come on, we can do better than that.

Most definitely not the "most published MB"

YouTube videos for Dec 16th were circulating for a month and a half. There were also 50 times as many YouTube videos made for it.

NerveShocker

01-20-2008, 11:47 PM

Over Thirty thousand people pledged to donate to Dec 16th money-bomb. This one about Ten thousand pledged. I would be happy with 2.8mil as well considering only 1/3 of the people pledged to donate and 2.8mil is almost half of Dec 16th. I'm hoping for the best though of course ;)

Donate at www.RonPaul2008.com

LiveFreeorDie

01-20-2008, 11:48 PM

http://paulcash.slact.net/today-paulcash.png

http://paulcash.slact.net/

libertythor

01-20-2008, 11:54 PM

Stupid thread.

Not really. Yes its sensationalistic, but there is a lot of truth to it. I will be emailing my family (most are RP supporters) to remind them.

pacelli

01-21-2008, 12:06 AM

Most definitely not the "most published MB"

YouTube videos for Dec 16th were circulating for a month and a half. There were also 50 times as many YouTube videos made for it.

I don't know, this is the first moneybomb where Ron Paul announced it nationwide. When talking about Dec 16, Ron said that he heard "rumors of a day coming up". Then on the weekend of the 16th, he sent a RP Campaign email saying that he would enjoy his tea on Sunday.

This time, during his interview with Blitzer about the newsletter allegations, Ron mentioned specifically that there was a fundraiser to occur on MLK, Jr holiday. Bringing it up in that interview allowed Paul to defend himself in the eye of the voter.

I'm sorry, but I'm doing this one for Ron. The man has been through so much since he declared candidacy. Called a "loon" on national broadcast, laughed at in every single debate, excluded from debates, and the list goes on and on. He needs it, and I had $250 to give. Another $100 coming later today - then I will have hit my $2300. In my mind, it is a small price to pay for the freedom of my future family members.

Lets get beyond the issue of how much advertising was done, what we could have done better. Today is it. Like it or not, the moneybomb is NOW. We can't go back in time, we must deal with today if we care about Dr. Paul.

We're all in this together. United we stand.

ninepointfive

01-21-2008, 12:08 AM

i just put ten more in!

libertythor

01-21-2008, 12:09 AM

LandonCook

01-21-2008, 12:12 AM

I am borrowing cash in the morning to donate more!!!!!!! (This is legal because I will ask for a loan without mention to exact reason, and it will be paid back within a week.)

We must make this huge!

Wow, thankyou...

Airborn

01-21-2008, 01:10 AM

jlink7

01-21-2008, 01:14 AM

Most publicized? I read about it a couple times a few weeks ago and then it kinda dropped off my radar until a few days again, and again this morning when I got RP's email about it.

jlink7

01-21-2008, 01:15 AM

yeh good idea, if anyone doesn't have much funds now donate then go get a payday loan so you you not be broke

Please, PLEASE don't do this. Payday loans are one of the worse things invented for consumers, EVER.

fmontez

01-21-2008, 01:17 AM

The money bomb is struggling, I can't help but thinking some of it has to do with the Newsletters and the poor performances in NV and SC. <--- No flaming allowed!!!

When is the next big moneybomb? I hope it has no connection to race!

Lord Xar

01-21-2008, 01:19 AM

The money bomb is struggling, I can't help but think some of it has to do with the Newsletters and the poor performances in NV and SC. <--- No flaming allowed!!!

When is the next big moneybomb? I hope it has no connection to race!

and here it starts..... please delete your post. We do not need negativity and personal opinions of defeatism.

literatim

01-21-2008, 01:20 AM

fmontez

01-21-2008, 01:38 AM

and here it starts..... please delete your post. We do not need negativity and personal opinions of defeatism.

I dont' see any negativity or defeatism in my post... we need to move on and plan another moneybomb... for whatever reason this one just didn't seem.. as exciting.

tomveil

01-21-2008, 01:51 AM

I dont' see any negativity or defeatism in my post... we need to move on and plan another moneybomb... for whatever reason this one just didn't seem.. as exciting.

Man I never see anything positive from you.

This moneybomb isn't about getting attention.

We KNOW we're not getting any attention after Nevada. The media is in full blackout mode. When we do well, they "omit" the results or just flat-out lie.

This money bomb is about making sure we have enough money to compete to the end. And if that's 1.5 million today or 2.5 million or 25 million, whatever we do is a positive step.

cheese

01-21-2008, 01:56 AM

considering basically no one knows about this money bomb except for RPF i think it's going pretty well.

NerveShocker

01-21-2008, 01:56 AM

I dont' see any negativity or defeatism in my post... we need to move on and plan another moneybomb... for whatever reason this one just didn't seem.. as exciting.

lol.. your gonna have to find a better reason for why this money-bomb is bad. Maybe it didn't feel as exciting to you but it's our last chance to get funds to the campaign before Super Tuesday so it's the big picture that matters. There is no time for another money bomb before February 5th so this is our shot. Like the money-bomb or not all that matters is if you want to help Ron Paul do better on Super Tuesday and hopefully win the presidency.

Join in on the Free At Last Money Bomb and donate at www.RonPaul2008.com

pacelli

01-21-2008, 02:24 AM

considering basically no one knows about this money bomb except for RPF i think it's going pretty well.

No one knows about this except for the RPF? Ron sent out this email to everyone who is a precinct leader and anyone who has ever donated to the campaign:

January 21, 2008

What a shot in the arm the Nevada caucuses were, where we took the silver as #2, beating McCain, Huckabee, Thompson, and -- of course -- Giuliani. We also got four more delegates. In South Carolina, we beat Rudy again. A big thank you to all our wonderful donors, volunteers, and voters. So many people worked so hard to spread our message of liberty, honest money, peace, and free-market prosperity. I owe you all my deepest gratitude. So do our fellow citizens. So do all future Americans. Most of the mainstream media continue to pretend that we do not exist. Yet soon the race will be down to four candidates-Romney, McCain, Huckabee, and me, and there is no stopping us, as Tim Russert grudgingly pointed out the other night. Thanks to you, we are in this all the way through a brokered convention.

Nevada, by the way, is known as the Silver State for a reason-its great mining industry produced the precious metal for the beautiful silver dollars minted at the fabled Carson City mint. These constitutional coins, include .775 ounces of silver, in accord with the Coinage Act of 1792. Today these coins, worth $1 in my father's day, have about $14 in silver. That is, the dollar is worth 1/14th of what it was, thanks to the counterfeiting Federal Reserve.

The Fed has again taken our country into a terrible crisis. Who else is talking about honest money that cannot be printed up at will by DC bureaucrats? My opponents in both parties are all some variety of print-and-spend Keynesians. Only we are telling the truth, about who is to blame for this recession, and how we can build real prosperity with sound money, no IRS, no deficit, and strict obedience to the Constitution. And, of course, no hyper-expensive, hyper-dangerous empire all around the globe.

When I met with some great ladies in Charleston, all of whom wore beautiful hats, I talked about the young people flocking to our banner. "Don't forget the young at heart," said one. Darn right! A youthful outlook, work ethic, and optimism characterizes all of us. Frederic Bastiat predicted many years ago that liberty would be saved by the young. He might have added the young at heart as well, and how right he was!

I continue to be astounded not only by all our revolutionaries, but by our fellow travelers. Democrats and even the workers for my Republican opponents come up to me to talk about our ideas. They are fascinated, and want to learn more. Reaching so many people doesn't necessarily mean a victory in the next primary, but it counts for the real changes we want in our country, now and for our children and grandchildren.

Of course, I am mainly paying attention to the next primary! We are working hard in Florida, in Louisiana for the caucuses, and then for Super Tuesday in more than 20 states. Meanwhile, the whole world is watching how we do tomorrow in fundraising, on a day dedicated to the memory of Martin Luther King, the great champion of non-violence at home, peace abroad, and civil disobedience against tyrannical government.

Please make your most generous donation https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ . We can't let this movement be stopped, nor slowed. I promise you that I will continue to pour all my heart and mind and strength into the battle. I know you will too. Let's work together for all we love, and all we hope for: freedom! Surely, it is worth all our efforts.

Sincerely,

Ron

RPF is a sparrow-fart in the wind of the ron paul community out there.

tomveil

01-21-2008, 02:27 AM

No one knows about this except for the RPF? Ron sent out this email to everyone who is a precinct leader and anyone who has ever donated to the campaign:

That was sent out at about 1 AM EST. People, I dunno....sleeping?

libertythor

01-21-2008, 02:28 AM

yeh good idea, if anyone doesn't have much funds now donate then go get a payday loan so you you not be broke

This will be a loan from a friend. No worries.

Joe3113

01-21-2008, 02:30 AM

I don't know, this is the first moneybomb where Ron Paul announced it nationwide. When talking about Dec 16, Ron said that he heard "rumors of a day coming up". Then on the weekend of the 16th, he sent a RP Campaign email saying that he would enjoy his tea on Sunday.

This time, during his interview with Blitzer about the newsletter allegations, Ron mentioned specifically that there was a fundraiser to occur on MLK, Jr holiday. Bringing it up in that interview allowed Paul to defend himself in the eye of the voter.

I'm sorry, but I'm doing this one for Ron. The man has been through so much since he declared candidacy. Called a "loon" on national broadcast, laughed at in every single debate, excluded from debates, and the list goes on and on. He needs it, and I had $250 to give. Another $100 coming later today - then I will have hit my $2300. In my mind, it is a small price to pay for the freedom of my future family members.

Lets get beyond the issue of how much advertising was done, what we could have done better. Today is it. Like it or not, the moneybomb is NOW. We can't go back in time, we must deal with today if we care about Dr. Paul.

We're all in this together. United we stand.

You Sir, are a patriot.

Joe3113

01-21-2008, 02:32 AM

I dont' see any negativity or defeatism in my post... we need to move on and plan another moneybomb... for whatever reason this one just didn't seem.. as exciting.

Reading your post history highlights a disturbing pattern. I won't say the 'T' word but I'm watching you.

tomveil

01-21-2008, 02:34 AM

Reading your post history highlights a disturbing pattern. I won't say the 'T' word but I'm watching you.

At the very least he's "Super Negative Man"

libertythor

01-21-2008, 02:41 AM

This is not a troll thread. He brought something to light....if we want more out of this moneybomb, then we have to promote it NOW.

Stop crapping in your panties. Nothing bad was said.

Trigonx

01-21-2008, 02:43 AM

if you can spread it to 1 person, 5 people, 10 people, 20 people, every person who contributes helps. That is the message of this thread

tomveil

01-21-2008, 03:03 AM

This is not a troll thread. He brought something to light....if we want more out of this moneybomb, then we have to promote it NOW.

Stop crapping in your panties. Nothing bad was said.

This is a long history, not this particular post.

libertythor

01-21-2008, 03:09 AM

This is a long history, not this particular post.

LOL OK This is some bad blood from long-standing RPF drama. LMFAO! Still.....what is wrong with this thread?

tomveil

01-21-2008, 03:17 AM

LOL OK This is some bad blood from long-standing RPF drama. LMFAO! Still.....what is wrong with this thread?

Nah, not bad blood. Randoms on the internets don't bother me. He's just super negative man (at best). The thread has merit because every $ we donate is another $ that the campaign gets to spend.

Personally I think that we could raise 10 million today, and we'd hear hardly a peep coming from the media. So declaring ANY size money-bomb a "failure" is totally false. Every donation is a victory, regardless of how big or how small. The DONATIONS are what matter, it no longer makes a difference if they come in on one day or if they come in over the course of a week. The media has gone into super-crazy-blackout mode, so expecting them to cover it is only going to lead to dissapointment.

Lord Xar

01-21-2008, 03:24 AM

Nah, not bad blood. Randoms on the internets don't bother me. He's just super negative man (at best). The thread has merit because every $ we donate is another $ that the campaign gets to spend.

Personally I think that we could raise 10 million today, and we'd hear hardly a peep coming from the media. So declaring ANY size money-bomb a "failure" is totally false. Every donation is a victory, regardless of how big or how small. The DONATIONS are what matter, it no longer makes a difference if they come in on one day or if they come in over the course of a week. The media has gone into super-crazy-blackout mode, so expecting them to cover it is only going to lead to dissapointment.

You are missing the meaning of the post. You are not seeing the psychological ramifications of it.

The person ALREADY was stating the obvious and then attributing it to poor showings, thus lending validity to his perceived dud of a money bomb. I would advise you to read between the lines. There certainly wasn't anything positive with the message and only served to diminish moral, why you can't see that is beyond me. "IF" the poster wanted to generate momentum there are a billiion other positive ways to do it.

Infact, when read it - I was hit with a moral depletor and if I wasn't such a Ron Paul fan his post would affect me negatively.

I am NOT gonna subscribe to these negative and diminishing moral posts that serve NO purpose other than to note the obvious in a negative light. MAYBE people are broke, mabye since its after christmas have no money. MAYBE people are out of town!!! THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS. Who knows, but I have a great nose for sniffing out motive driven posts.

jrich4rpaul

01-21-2008, 03:26 AM

If you have any other ideas on how to make money tonight please post them...

DON'T WAIT TO DONATE!

The server crashed at 11:45pm during Tea Party 07, and the "I'm waiting until the last minute to donate" crowd didn't get their donations through.

History doesn't have to repeat itself. Make one big donation, and make it early.

tomveil

01-21-2008, 03:27 AM

You are missing the meaning of the post. You are not seeing the psychological ramifications of it.

The person ALREADY was stating the obvious and then attributing it to poor showings, thus lending validity to his perceived dud of a money bomb. I would advise you to read between the lines. There certainly wasn't anything positive with the message and only served to diminish moral, why you can't see that is beyond me. "IF" the poster wanted to generate momentum there are a billiion other positive ways to do it.

Oh, I see it. Like water off a duck, baby. He's saying we should give up on a money bomb 4 hours into it? Really? WTF kind of talk is that? Especially when we're actually doing fairly well. But my point was that this money-bomb isn't a failure to me even if we get 1 million. Because that's 1 million more dollars in the hands of (I believe) the only person that can save this country from seriously going into the tank. (Honestly, he may not be able to, either. But he's the only one with any shot at all). I've been around the internet way too long to get hung up on what one person says, especially when that person has a history of negative toned posts.

Lord Xar

01-21-2008, 03:33 AM

Oh, I see it. Like water off a duck, baby. He's saying we should give up on a money bomb 4 hours into it? Really? WTF kind of talk is that? Especially when we're actually doing fairly well. But my point was that this money-bomb isn't a failure to me even if we get 1 million. Because that's 1 million more dollars in the hands of (I believe) the only person that can save this country from seriously going into the tank. (Honestly, he may not be able to, either. But he's the only one with any shot at all). I've been around the internet way too long to get hung up on what one person says, especially when that person has a history of negative toned posts.

Again, you miss the point. You are too interested in trying to be right.

I agree, NO MONEY bomb is a failure cause it generates money. BUT perhaps you haven't been around long enough to note the sublities in peoples posting habits and how this ONCE great board is awash with low moral and such.... Now, you might have the moral fortitude to not be swayed, but many here - especially new posters and like are affected by the constant barrage of "WE FAILED", "WE ARE FAILING" threads. The reason this forum jammed for such a long time was the positive and passion exhibited in the forum, but the negative nannies and shills have almost done their job.

Anyways, you seem to be the only one who seems to not have a problem with it, and that is fine - but it might draw some reflection on your part.

tomveil

01-21-2008, 03:36 AM

Again, you miss the point. You are too interested in trying to be right.

I agree, NO MONEY bomb is a failure cause it generates money. BUT perhaps you haven't been around long enough to note the sublities in peoples posting habits and how this ONCE great board is awash with low moral and such.... Now, you might have the moral fortitude to not be swayed, but many here - especially new posters and like are affected by the constant barrage of "WE FAILED", "WE ARE FAILING" threads. The reason this forum jammed for such a long time was the positive and passion exhibited in the forum, but the negative nannies and shills have almost done their job.

Anyways, you seem to be the only one who seems to not have a problem with it, and that is fine - but it might draw some reflection on your part.

Maybe. Or I could post about how no money-bomb is a failure and point out the fact that the guy has negative posts, so things they say should be taken with a grain of salt.

Oh wait.

;)

Personally, I'll enjoy visiting this thread after today is done and listing all of the things this "failure of a moneybomb" will buy us :)