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susano
01-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Alright, for the anti conspiracy types, here, leave now.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=117056
(READ LINK)

From Clinton's own website (screen shot):

http://www.rumormillnews.com/Images/HILLARY-WEBPAGE.jpg

Seems the freepers caught it, too. They say they caught in the slide show, but it's been taken down, now.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953446/posts

yongrel
01-20-2008, 01:22 AM
what am i looking at?

Sauron
01-20-2008, 01:26 AM
satin rulz

susano
01-20-2008, 01:29 AM
what am i looking at?

Th stars are upside down on the flag. Satanic.

susano
01-20-2008, 01:30 AM
Holy shit, it's still there. Scroll to the flash -

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/hq/newhampshire/

susano
01-20-2008, 01:33 AM
http://www.crossroad.to/images/2002/symbols/penta-down1.jpg

:eek:

susano
01-20-2008, 01:35 AM
Now, for the really weird part. I have a friend who was used in a mind control program at Stanford Research Institute (yes, this happened/happens to people) and she told me, over a year ago, that HC is a satanic witch. I kid you not. Only the conspiracy types will believe this, I know.

Mr. Coolidge
01-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Huh, that's really interesting. At first I was just thinking, "So? What am I looking for?" Yet something was bugging me about the flag.

Wouldn't have thought of looking for upside-down stars. Good eyes.

unconsious767
01-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Now, for the really weird part. I have a friend who was used in a mind control program at Stanford Research Institute (yes, this happened/happens to people) and she told me, over a year ago, that HC is a satanic witch. I kid you not. Only the conspiracy types will believe this, I know.



http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3637/hillarywitchew9.jpg

I'LL GET YOU MY PRETTY!

susano
01-20-2008, 01:58 AM
Huh, that's really interesting. At first I was just thinking, "So? What am I looking for?" Yet something was bugging me about the flag.

Wouldn't have thought of looking for upside-down stars. Good eyes.

I might not have noticed it, either. I picked it up here -
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message490722/pg1

TurtleBurger
01-20-2008, 02:00 AM
The other scary thing is I noticed myself thinking "Chelsea doesn't look too bad if you can't see her face."

susano
01-20-2008, 02:01 AM
Jeez, that witch hat suits her.

HC is backed by the Rothschilds of London. Bill got his indoctrination in London as a Rhodes Scholar. Illuminati to the max. And PURE EVIL.

Sanatists run this planet. REAL occultists.

susano
01-20-2008, 02:02 AM
The other scary thing is I noticed myself thinking "Chelsea doesn't look too bad if you can't see her face."


hehehe. She has pretty eyes like her mother.

steph3n
01-20-2008, 02:05 AM
The other scary thing is I noticed myself thinking "Chelsea doesn't look too bad if you can't see her face."

wow she looks good now, she used to be the ugly duckling.

susano
01-20-2008, 02:14 AM
This flag crap needs to be spread far and wide.

Anyone know how to put it on digg?

Mitt Romneys sideburns
01-20-2008, 02:16 AM
Just put a paper bag over Chelsea's head.

ChristopherJ
01-20-2008, 02:20 AM
I found this, but it says it's a 45 star flag and the one behind HC is not.

http://www.jeffbridgman.com/inventory/index.php?page=out&id=298

steph3n
01-20-2008, 02:30 AM
Just put a paper bag over Chelsea's head.

she looks better without that curly hair :D

JordanQ72
01-20-2008, 02:52 AM
Hmm...

Are there laws and regulations about this kind of stuff, because I would have no clue. Personally, I didn't realize stars had an up & down position before. My gut feeling on this one is that there's a label on the back that says "MADE IN CHINA" and they screwed up the manufacturing. I have no proof or real reasoning to support this, but I do feel it's slightly more plausible than Hillary having a special 10 meter satanic flag she carries around with her.

steph3n
01-20-2008, 02:56 AM
Hmm...

Are there laws and regulations about this kind of stuff, because I would have no clue. Personally, I didn't realize stars had an up & down position before. My gut feeling on this one is that there's a label on the back that says "MADE IN CHINA" and they screwed up the manufacturing. I have no proof or real reasoning to support this, but I do feel it's slightly more plausible than Hillary having a special 10 meter satanic flag she carries around with her.

yes there is a flag design gudeline

JordanQ72
01-20-2008, 03:08 AM
Also, wouldn't a satanic version of the American flag look like this?

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6972/americanflagxu7.gif

shida
01-20-2008, 03:14 AM
Now, for the really weird part. I have a friend who was used in a mind control program at Stanford Research Institute (yes, this happened/happens to people) and she told me, over a year ago, that HC is a satanic witch. I kid you not. Only the conspiracy types will believe this, I know.

Here's an interesting thread from educate-yourself.org for those new to the topic of mind control.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/

rmholla
01-20-2008, 03:49 AM
I doubt this is going to get any main stream press but maybe someone should sent a press release about it to the Huckabee camp. He could run with it and use it to show why his Constitutional amendment is soooooo needed. LMAO :D

kimosabi
01-20-2008, 06:41 AM
Th stars are upside down on the flag. Satanic.

It gets worse...

From this

http://www.fletcherledger.com/archive/2002-11-18/111802viewpoints/110802_GOP_logo.jpg

to this...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Republicanlogo.svg/200px-

asgardshill
01-20-2008, 06:57 AM
Did somebody flip a negative or something? No, the blue field would be on the bottom left quadrant of the stripes even if the negative were flipped 180 degrees.

Caution: I sucked at those "spatial relationships" tests I took before I joined the military, so disregard my blather.

Odd indeed - must be one of those Wal Mart Chinese special flags or sumpin'

freelance
01-20-2008, 07:20 AM
Th stars are upside down on the flag. Satanic.

Thanks. That was the photo I was looking for when I mentioned this a few days ago. I'm sure people thought I was a crackpot. There are a few other photos floating around too.

freelance
01-20-2008, 07:20 AM
Also, wouldn't a satanic version of the American flag look like this?

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6972/americanflagxu7.gif

Actually, an upside down flag is a distress signal.

Rebel Resource
01-20-2008, 07:34 AM
After a few years in the deep end of internet politics, you do see a lot of photos of funny handshakes (even seen one of RP making such a handshake!) and hand gestures.

Plenty of shrub making a fist with the pointing and little fingers extended.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/22/xin_42010222094415610755.jpg

http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/satan_sign_1.jpg

http://www.senorcafe.com/archives/BUSH%20-%20SATAN.jpg

http://www.boingboing.net/images/satannnnnn.jpg

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bush_satan_hand.jpg

http://www.floydanderson.com/IMAGES/captaf04ac4c79004c1781e72a1971d114f.bush_sept_11_a nniversary_dclj109.jpg

http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/inaug_protest/bush_sign-1st_inaug.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_sVfYYHr3cdo/RvmM3OxqlrI/AAAAAAAAAQs/D-KDEU86kX0/s400/bush-bulgaria.bmp

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pictures/jan06/080106eldiablo.jpg

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix/pic63653.jpg

Conza88
01-20-2008, 08:03 AM
Shitlery is hailing Hitler.. LOOK at her. lol

silence is betrayal
01-20-2008, 08:11 AM
Oh god, shes the anointed one for the elite.

OKRonPaul
01-20-2008, 08:33 AM
After a few years in the deep end of internet politics, you do see a lot of photos of funny handshakes (even seen one of RP making such a handshake!) and hand gestures.

Plenty of shrub making a fist with the pointing and little fingers extended.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/22/xin_42010222094415610755.jpg



Hook 'em Horns! It's a texas thing.

Dustancostine
01-20-2008, 08:48 AM
Hook 'em Horns! It's a texas thing.

Yes and its an evil sign.












:D
Fightin' Aggie Class of '02
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chiplitfam
01-20-2008, 10:15 AM
http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/

Now you know there is no difference.

Scroll down to Roman numeral IV. Look at the elephant! We are truly in a spiritual battle.

steph3n
01-20-2008, 10:39 AM
After a few years in the deep end of internet politics, you do see a lot of photos of funny handshakes (even seen one of RP making such a handshake!) and hand gestures.

Plenty of shrub making a fist with the pointing and little fingers extended.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/22/xin_42010222094415610755.jpg

http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/satan_sign_1.jpg

http://www.senorcafe.com/archives/BUSH%20-%20SATAN.jpg

http://www.boingboing.net/images/satannnnnn.jpg

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/bush_satan_hand.jpg

http://www.floydanderson.com/IMAGES/captaf04ac4c79004c1781e72a1971d114f.bush_sept_11_a nniversary_dclj109.jpg

http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/inaug_protest/bush_sign-1st_inaug.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_sVfYYHr3cdo/RvmM3OxqlrI/AAAAAAAAAQs/D-KDEU86kX0/s400/bush-bulgaria.bmp

http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pictures/jan06/080106eldiablo.jpg

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix/pic63653.jpg

Actually RP is not making such a gesture, he has a family member(grandchild?) that is deaf he is signing "i love you" he is not using the same hand gesture as bush in these.
You wll notice at rallies that he always has an ASL translator on hand as well.

torchbearer
01-20-2008, 10:58 AM
BURN THE WITCH!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTdDN_MRe64

Enjoy.

PatriotOne
01-20-2008, 11:47 AM
Clinton and Bushes are Luciferian as are all the high ranking Illuminati. But don't let that stop you "coincidence theorists" from thinking the upside down stars are just a printing mistake...LOL.

Am3RiCaN_microcosm
01-20-2008, 11:51 AM
"coincidence theorists"

You just made my day. Anyone ever watch Pewee? Well you JUST SAID THE SECRET WORD! I'll be using this phrase myself, since it's amazing to me that even after being presented with factual information, most people would rather not assume the worst about their gov, so instead chalk all things up to some type of grand mistake. Sorry, I don't believe in coincidences.

SML
01-20-2008, 12:09 PM
Yes and its an evil sign.












:D
Fightin' Aggie Class of '02
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Whoop!

Naraku
01-20-2008, 12:19 PM
The corna is not a satanic symbol. For instance, it's popular usage in heavy metal comes from Black Sabbath and a member who ultimately was copying his Italian mother, who used it to ward off the "evil eye" not as a symbol of the devil. It was intended as good luck charm.

Here's a little background:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corna

Dave Pedersen
01-20-2008, 12:33 PM
I don't think it's prudish to request that the title of this thread be changed. So then I request that the OP change the title of this thread. Unless of course the abominable expression so prevalent today actually represents your deity. In which case I don't understand why the topic following should be of any concern to you. Make up your mind who you will serve.

Thanks in advance.

susano
01-20-2008, 07:40 PM
I don't think it's prudish to request that the title of this thread be changed. So then I request that the OP change the title of this thread. Unless of course the abominable expression so prevalent today actually represents your deity. In which case I don't understand why the topic following should be of any concern to you. Make up your mind who you will serve.

Thanks in advance.

Do I tell you what to write? Do not tell me. You are in no position to judge me or what my beliefs are. It was not meant to offend you and it's merely an expression that has nothing to do with how I think or feel about All That Is and who or what may have created it.


Back to the Luciferians. Whether one believes in these things or not isn't relevent. THE ELITE DO. And, no, the pentacle is not an innocent symbol (anyone can write anything in Wikipedia, including satanists).

I have known for a few years that we are under control of satanic occultists. Oddly, it was my investigation into UFOs that led to me this information. It's so widespread that even the most cynical and conspiratorial would be floored.

These people are the ones responsible for mind control (hands on and for the masses). "These people" are the establishment. A good deal of mind control torture goes on at military installations. That's why many self described "alien" abductees have memories of human military personnel.

Did anyone see that lapel pin that HC wears (in one of the links)? Well, the phoenix is very significant to occultists. When Bush, Blair, Harper and Howard all met, a few months ago, at the Asian Economic Union conference in Austrailia, Queen Elizabeth was there. They held a ceremony in Sydney Harbor called "the river of fire". Fireworks were shot off with tall ships in the waters (British Empire, anyone?). THE PUBLIC WAS NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND. It was a private occult ceremony for the elite. They had martial law in Syndey (though many probably didn't take note) and kept the public away for a week. If you look up river of fire, you'll discover the occult meaning. It has to do with destroying everything, after which the "phoenix" rises from the ashes and a new world (order) arises.

That's a pretty good idea to spread this on the Huckabee forum, though I suspect that the Huckster is one of those satanic ritual abuse type of "Christians". You know, his grown son (couple of years ago), who was a camp counselor, tortured a dog, slit his throat and hanged him, along with another guy. Animal torturers don't come out of ordinary families. When a prosecutor tried to charge him, the Huckster interefered and fired the prosecutor. I don't know if "Hucks Army" are a bunch of mind controlled, "Christian" zombies. Maybe some are not and they should see the Clinton stuff. Animal torture is indicative of a sick and twisted individual, as well as Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA), i.e., occult practices.

For anyone who wants to know how lefist communists intersect with right wing "Christian" fundies, and how the NWO is being implimented, socially, politically and through religion, you MUST read The Union Jack:

British Israel Uses Christian Fundamentalist Evangelicals to Promote the "Kingdom of God on Earth' Scheme to Deliver Up A One World Society-Both Feudal and Fascist

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/britishisraelhiddenhand10jul05.shtml

Hillary Clinton is part of the NWO criminal cabal. She is backed by the Rothschilds of London (where all of this is headquarted). Everything Alex Jones has said is true. We are under attack from PURE EVIL. When she became a senator I knew she was on a rise to the top. I always figured she was Bush 41's pick for president. Now, articles have come out saying people from his administration are backing her. Remember Mena, Arkansas, where the Clintons ran guns for drugs, during Iran Contra.

Very alarming about the GOP logo. I didn't know it until I saw this Clinton thing, along with the links. There are mind control victims who have accused 41 of being involved in things you would not believe. The logo change is no accident, that's for sure.

Green Mountain Boy
01-20-2008, 07:52 PM
I once read a rumor somewhere that Tipper Gore punched out Hillary for hanging obscene and satanic ornaments on the Christmas tree inside the White House. That would be awesome (for Tipper) if it was true.

Dave Pedersen
01-20-2008, 08:11 PM
Do I tell you what to write? Do not tell me. You are in no position to judge me or what my beliefs are. It was not meant to offend you and it's merely an expression that has nothing to do with how I think or feel about All That Is and who or what may have created it.


Hit a nerve? You know that abbreviation has deeply bothered me ever since it became commonplace many years ago.. Before that it was simply "oh my God" and that also was bad. But now it has morphed into the combination of vulgarity which if used in a title would probably generate many objections from many different people if said alone. But somehow when it is combined with "God" it's just dandy and even cool to say. This is disingenuous and no I'm not "judging" anyone to heaven or hell so don't pull that line on me. I simply made a nice request and you got doubly miffed as though I were attacking your first amendment rights.

That expression is GARBAGE and I don't like it. That may not concern you and it may not concern others but I'm not going to stand here and get dumped on for requesting you change it. I was civil you were not. I asked a reasoned question, why would satanists bother you if you have such disregard for God? You think as an a-theist you can say what you want about God and there's nothing wrong because you are a-theist? That's like saying someone can use vulgarity all they want simply because it doesn't bother them or they don't consider vulgarity to be offensive.

susano
01-20-2008, 08:41 PM
Hit a nerve? You know that abbreviation has deeply bothered me ever since it became commonplace many years ago.. Before that it was simply "oh my God" and that also was bad. But now it has morphed into the combination of vulgarity which if used in a title would probably generate many objections from many different people if said alone. But somehow when it is combined with "God" it's just dandy and even cool to say. This is disingenuous and no I'm not "judging" anyone to heaven or hell so don't pull that line on me. I simply made a nice request and you got doubly miffed as though I were attacking your first amendment rights.

That expression is GARBAGE and I don't like it. That may not concern you and it may not concern others but I'm not going to stand here and get dumped on for requesting you change it. I was civil you were not. I asked a reasoned question, why would satanists bother you if you have such disregard for God? You think as an a-theist you can say what you want about God and there's nothing wrong because you are a-theist? That's like saying someone can use vulgarity all they want simply because it doesn't bother them or they don't consider vulgarity to be offensive.


Look, this is not Great Britain, yet. PC rules do not apply.

If you are offended by speech, then you must state your reason, as you have, and hope to affect others. That's it.

I am not an atheist. As a matter of fact, you know what offends me? Killing sentient beings to eat them. Experiments on animals. The extreme cruel and selfish acts of human beings toward the innocent. Are you a vegetarian? I am. If you participate in the demand for the murder of animals, then I find that offensive. The pain and suffering of a helpless being is a million times more horrific than your offense at my speech.

Bottom line, don't like it, don't read it.

susano
01-20-2008, 08:48 PM
BTW, Dave, you were not civil. You were snide and judgemental.

I don't think it's prudish to request that the title of this thread be changed. So then I request that the OP change the title of this thread. Unless of course the abominable expression so prevalent today actually represents your deity. In which case I don't understand why the topic following should be of any concern to you. Make up your mind who you will serve.

Take it to the 700 Club (which also has an occultist at the helm, lol)

InLoveWithRon
01-20-2008, 08:55 PM
There's plenty of inverted pentagram structures and designs in D.C. like a vast plague.. Here's just one of them out of many-

An interesting representation of the inverted pentagram is visible at the headquarters of the International Order of the Eastern Star in Washington, D.C.. Here's a look at the the fence and the inverted pentagrams surrounding the building- there are exactly 666 of these fenced golden pentagrams surrounding this building which so happens to be called the "HQ of the International Order .. hmmm

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/pro--sports/1easternbldgg.jpg



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Dave Pedersen
01-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Look, this is not Great Britain, yet. PC rules do not apply.

If you are offended by speech, then you must state your reason, as you have, and hope to affect others. That's it.



Bottom line, don't like it, don't read it.

How many others have to be offended before you are willing to change? 5? 10? a majority? That would be a democracy but we live according to the principles of a Republic. That means the rights of the individual shall not be infringed. Now if your abbreviation were not in the title that would be different. I don't have a choice to read it or not as long as I'm here at the forum. It is in the title.

As far as killing sentient beings goes I respect your position. I like and respect animals a lot. I consider their misery every day even if only by the hand of nature they do suffer greatly and in silence. When the crow dies from cold and starvation in the middle of winter it dies silently and alone and few are there who think about the crow or the deer or the rabbit surviving out in the sub-zero temperatures without any consideration. This world is full of tremendous suffering.

What does that have to do with vulgar language in thread titles?

I like the subject of your thread. I think it shows people what lengths our enemies have gone to to subjugate the unwitting masses, there is a religion coming which will corrupt humanity beyond our imagination and it will be upon us very soon. So then what is now hidden will be revealed and the pain and suffering of the ages will be fully known by all. That is the justice of my God and it will be revealed according to His time.

Please don't use that vulgar expression which combines the clean and the unclean with such callous indifference. All the words ever spoken have consequence. Respect for God is what He demands. Without respect there can be no love and without love for God there is no life. He sustains all continually. He will not continue indefinitely to sustain that which holds Him in contempt. This is the winnowing which is visiting all who inhabit the Earth.

susano
01-20-2008, 09:02 PM
http://www.satanservice.org/graphics/michael-aquino2.jpg

Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, Temple of Set, Satanic priest

Presidio, San Francisco & The Pentagon


From Psyop to Mind War: The Psychology of Total Victory

http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/pmt/exhibits/1214/MindWar.pdf


Indicative of who is running the show on planet earth.

PatriotOne
01-20-2008, 09:44 PM
Back to the Luciferians. Whether one believes in these things or not isn't relevent. THE ELITE DO.


That hits the nail on the head and is what I always ended up saying when people scoff at this stuff. I use to be one of those people also until I got caught up in some research and man oh man, it took me places I never wanted to go :eek:. I always wonder how many good people can actually handle the truth. It is so ugly...so very, very ugly.

susano
01-20-2008, 10:09 PM
How many others have to be offended before you are willing to change? 5? 10? a majority? That would be a democracy but we live according to the principles of a Republic. That means the rights of the individual shall not be infringed. Now if your abbreviation were not in the title that would be different. I don't have a choice to read it or not as long as I'm here at the forum. It is in the title.

I will put in a request to change the title, Dave. Just for you. They cannot be changed w/o mod approval.

Nobody has to offended. They are letters on a page, period. You take offense at speech by framing them in the context of your beliefs, then expect others to follow abide by that. You even told me to decide which GOD I was serving. I mean, really Dave. You DECIDED to be offended. You could just as easily decide that I'm not your cup of tea and ignore it.


As far as killing sentient beings goes I respect your position. I like and respect animals a lot. I consider their misery every day even if only by the hand of nature they do suffer greatly and in silence. When the crow dies from cold and starvation in the middle of winter it dies silently and alone and few are there who think about the crow or the deer or the rabbit surviving out in the sub-zero temperatures without any consideration. This world is full of tremendous suffering.

What does that have to do with vulgar language in thread titles?

I brought it up to illustrate a point. What you may find "vulgar", someone else may not. Such is life in a free society. I also think it's hypocritical when less than perfect people make a big deal about something like speech. While you say you feel sorry for the misery of animals, you don't say you don't eat them. Which is the bigger "offense", Dave? Genuine violence toward the innocent, or letters on a page? You use your religious beliefs to question what GOD I serve, because of a thread title, so I'm turning it around on you, Dave. Why don't you LIVE up to my beliefs? I think my concerns about the suffering of billions of innocents trumps your offence at my title. Just sayin, Dave. What's good for the goose....


I like the subject of your thread. I think it shows people what lengths our enemies have gone to to subjugate the unwitting masses, there is a religion coming which will corrupt humanity beyond our imagination and it will be upon us very soon. So then what is now hidden will be revealed and the pain and suffering of the ages will be fully known by all. That is the justice of my God and it will be revealed according to His time.

Well, I'm glad we can agree that the subject matter is important. As for the justice of "your God", you should consider that others may have other views. Words like "justice" don't fit my own concepts of the Creator.


Please don't use that vulgar expression which combines the clean and the unclean with such callous indifference. All the words ever spoken have consequence. Respect for God is what He demands. Without respect there can be no love and without love for God there is no life. He sustains all continually. He will not continue indefinitely to sustain that which holds Him in contempt. This is the winnowing which is visiting all who inhabit the Earth.

Dave, I get the creeps just hearing those kinds of phrases. It sounds like the hellfire and damnation wackjobs on evangelical TV. They're the ones who got Bush elected. They're the ones judging others while supporting killing in the name of GOD. They're voting for the Huckster, now. I don't believe GOD is he (or a she), and I don't believe GOD is in the justice (revenge) business. Different strokes, Dave.

As I said, I will request a title change, just for you, but you need to re-think your imposing your justice God and your offense at speech on me.

susano
01-20-2008, 10:18 PM
That hits the nail on the head and is what I always ended up saying when people scoff at this stuff. I use to be one of those people also until I got caught up in some research and man oh man, it took me places I never wanted to go :eek:. I always wonder how many good people can actually handle the truth. It is so ugly...so very, very ugly.

I hear ya. It's not like you find a little and that's it. It's MASSIVE and very shocking. I'm convinced that the majority of real power and wealth are compromised - have sold their souls. They are into pedophelia, murder, ritual sacrifice, drug and human trafficking (see the Obama thread!), slavery, the darkest occult stuff people could ever imagine. They are the same people crashing our economy and keeping Ron Paul blackballed by the media. Ron is to them as a cross is to a vampire. They want to kill us (80%) of us and have it all to themselves (with enough slaves to work the global plantation).

Are you familiar with Catherine Austin Fitts? Look here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK8RwcSDbI0

PatriotOne
01-20-2008, 10:39 PM
I will put in a request to change the title, Dave. Just for you. They cannot be changed w/o mod approval.

Susano. You should be able to change the title by going to edit and then "advanced edit". It allows me to and as far as I know I don't have any special super powers...LOL

PatriotOne
01-20-2008, 10:57 PM
I'm convinced that the majority of real power and wealth are compromised - have sold their souls. They are into pedophelia, murder, ritual sacrifice, drug and human trafficking (see the Obama thread!), slavery, the darkest occult stuff people could ever imagine.

Most people proably envision a meeting with satan holding a big ole contract and striking a deal with a human being like in the movies. Watching "Conspiracy of Silence" helped me understand it usually doesn't work that way. These Lucifinarians take what probably use to be honest good politicians and people in positions of power, have parties, drug them, get them drunk, etc., and then put them in situations of, for instance, having sex with children, and then film it in secret. Viola. You got a politician who is forced through the use of blackmail to do favors for these people by voting for their laws, and furthering their agenda out of fear of their films, photographs being made public. Or ends up totally corrupted because of the experience and goes along with the club and gets promoted into higher positions of power. I'm sure you have seen it. It should be a must see for everybody to understand how our politicians are blackmailed or corrupted. It helped me understand how seemingly good people (Senate and Congress) make really bad votes that don't seem to make sense.

I am not familiar with Catherine Austin Fitts. I'll check her out.

susano
01-20-2008, 11:00 PM
Susano. You should be able to change the title by going to edit and then "advanced edit". It allows me to and as far as I know I don't have any special super powers...LOL

I did it. It asks for a reason and it goes to a mod. In my view (when I click "edit") the new title shows. The change has not been approved, yet, though, so it still shows the same on the index.

susano
01-20-2008, 11:11 PM
Most people proably envision a meeting with satan holding a big ole contract and striking a deal with a human being like in the movies. Watching "Conspiracy of Silence" helped me understand it usually doesn't work that way. These Lucifinarians take what probably use to be honest good politicians and people in positions of power, have parties, drug them, get them drunk, etc., and then put them in situations of, for instance, having sex with children, and then film it in secret. Viola. You got a politician who is forced through the use of blackmail to do favors for these people by voting for their laws, and furthering their agenda out of fear of their films, photographs being made public. Or ends up totally corrupted because of the experience and goes along with the club and gets promoted into higher positions of power. I'm sure you have seen it. It should be a must see for everybody to understand how our politicians are blackmailed or corrupted. It helped me understand how seemingly good people (Senate and Congress) make really bad votes that don't seem to make sense.

I am not familiar with Catherine Austin Fitts. I'll check her out.

Is that the Franklin Cover Up video you refer to? I'm very familiar with all of this stuff. I think you are exactly right. One person who I'm certain has been blackmailed or paid off is Lindsay Graham, senator from South Carolina. How does a southern senator speak at a La Raza convention and call all anti amnesty American BIGOTS? He looked frantic in that speech. Same with McCain. Somebody's got something on these guys and they've been told to pass that legislation. Owrd is Graham is gay, so he would be an easy one to have shit on. McCain is a criminal with a long history of corruption, so he's easy to compromise, too. And, remember Nancy Pelosi being so anti war? Once she was made speaker she became a Bush lover. I KNOW she's paid off. You can go down the list, and it's nearly every big name. The ones doing the blackmail are advancing the BRITISH-ZIONIST agenda, i.e., fascism for them, communism for the peons.

susano
01-20-2008, 11:12 PM
Catherine Austin Fitts on how our economy is being crashed and 9/11 as economic warfare:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/010705_economic_hitmen.shtml

PatriotOne
01-21-2008, 12:26 AM
[QUOTE]One person who I'm certain has been blackmailed or paid off is Lindsay Graham, senator from South Carolina. How does a southern senator speak at a La Raza convention and call all anti amnesty American BIGOTS? He looked frantic in that speech. Same with McCain.

I thought the exact same thing as I was watching the pro-amnesty guys giving their speeches on the floor. They were desperate to push that piece of crap bill down our throats. I was thinking they were being forced to do it. Lord knows no Repub getting ready to run for President would do THAT willingly! It was probably political suicide if the truth be known and we weren't subjected to the MSM's daily movie of smoke and mirrors and faux elections. LOL I just look at Ted Kennedy and know he is a tortured man. God knows what he has been put through with the murder of his brothers and JFK Jr. and still forced to pretend it didn't happen. Fear? Compromised/blackmailed? Corrupted and willing? Heck if I know, but it sure is one of those. No wonder he is a drunk.


And, remember Nancy Pelosi being so anti war? Once she was made speaker she became a Bush lover. I KNOW she's paid off.

I think many of the dems are also being forced to vote pro-war because they fear another false flag op in the U.S. Those bastards got nukes and not afraid to use them. It's the only thing that makes sense to me why they keep approving the war funds. I can't find it now but some congressman said as much to one of his constituents. We know, they know, it was a false flag. They would have to truly be blithering idiots if they didn't and I'm done using that excuse for them. Between the Luciferians on the hill, the corrupted ones and the blackmailed ones and the ones that downright fear another 9/11, well...viola....more money for a war.. There's not enough time in the day for me to figure out who's been compromised by consent or blackmail on the Hill.

I suspect McCain, on the other hand, has been MKUltra'd. Not basing that on much other than "gut" instinct though. His POW experience had some anomolies and he blocked investigations by family members into the other POW's. Makes me kind of wonder if they were really POW's or victims of MK Ultra.

PatriotOne
01-21-2008, 12:30 AM
Catherine Austin Fitts on how our economy is being crashed and 9/11 as economic warfare:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/010705_economic_hitmen.shtml

I'll try to read that but I truly hate Economics. My idea of mind-numbing boredom :o.

Sandy
01-21-2008, 12:41 AM
That hits the nail on the head and is what I always ended up saying when people scoff at this stuff. I use to be one of those people also until I got caught up in some research and man oh man, it took me places I never wanted to go :eek:. I always wonder how many good people can actually handle the truth. It is so ugly...so very, very ugly.

Occult/Theosophy/New Age, they all go hand in hand and all are being used to try and get to a satanic 'united world'. Here is a 3 part article I found that I recently read, really well written. I tell you what, if anyone has kids in the public school system do what you can to take them out, and lots of entertainment is involved somehow or another with global brainwashing. The first article is called: Bloody Utopian Dreams, Part I. A Christian wrote this, but you don't have to be a Christian to read it. The writer is excellent and very educated on this stuff.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/teichrib/utopian-dreams-1.htm

susano
01-21-2008, 12:45 AM
I'll try to read that but I truly hate Economics. My idea of mind-numbing boredom :o.

Oh, it's not like reading economics. It's like page turner material. She is a very compelling writer and speaker. TPTB threatened her life.

I agree about Manchurian candidate McCain. I DETEST that man.

susano
01-21-2008, 12:49 AM
Occult/Theosophy/New Age, they all go hand in hand and all are being used to try and get to a satanic 'united world'. Here is a 3 part article I found that I recently read, really well written. I tell you what, if anyone has kids in the public school system do what you can to take them out, and lots of entertainment is involved somehow or another with global brainwashing. The first article is called: Bloody Utopian Dreams, Part I. A Christian wrote this, but you don't have to be a Christian to read it. The writer is excellent and very educated on this stuff.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/teichrib/utopian-dreams-1.htm


School is mind control. The method comes from Tavistock, in London. Tavistock is a huge hyrda institute, into social engineering, psychiatry, public health, schools, you name it. It's mind control central for the UK. Everything bad going on here is coming from and modeled after the UK. Britain is the enemy of the USA.

CurtisLow
01-21-2008, 02:02 AM
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5208/hillary55cp8.jpg


She works for the man down under!!

LynnB
01-21-2008, 07:04 AM
Is that the Franklin Cover Up video you refer to? I'm very familiar with all of this stuff. I think you are exactly right. One person who I'm certain has been blackmailed or paid off is Lindsay Graham, senator from South Carolina. How does a southern senator speak at a La Raza convention and call all anti amnesty American BIGOTS? He looked frantic in that speech. Same with McCain. Somebody's got something on these guys and they've been told to pass that legislation. Owrd is Graham is gay, so he would be an easy one to have shit on. McCain is a criminal with a long history of corruption, so he's easy to compromise, too. And, remember Nancy Pelosi being so anti war? Once she was made speaker she became a Bush lover. I KNOW she's paid off. You can go down the list, and it's nearly every big name. The ones doing the blackmail are advancing the BRITISH-ZIONIST agenda, i.e., fascism for them, communism for the peons.

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007 (http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007)
1. Clinton
2. Conyers
3. Craig
4. Feinstein
5. Giuliani
6. Huckabee
7. Libby
8. Obama
9. Pelosi
10. Reid

justatrey
01-21-2008, 03:53 PM
Is it true that the switch to upside down stars happened during the current Bush administration?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Republicanlogo.svg/200px-

susano
01-21-2008, 04:15 PM
Is it true that the switch to upside down stars happened during the current Bush administration?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Republicanlogo.svg/200px-

That's what the link in this thread said. The very fact that they have been changed, a deliberate decision, just shows that someone decided to be public about who the GOP serves.

justatrey
01-21-2008, 04:49 PM
That's what the link in this thread said. The very fact that they have been changed, a deliberate decision, just shows that someone decided to be public about who the GOP serves.

I didn't see it mentioned in the original post.

While the flag is interesting, and I find it hard to believe it is coincidence or an accident, the official GOP symbol suddenly being changed is much more difficult to explain. Surely, the official GOP website must have given an explanation?

Also, how about an explanation of this:

http://yogibrewer.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/backwardspatch.jpg

asgardshill
01-21-2008, 04:55 PM
I didn't see it mentioned in the original post.

While the flag is interesting, and I find it hard to believe it is coincidence or an accident, the official GOP symbol suddenly being changed is much more difficult to explain. Surely, the official GOP website must have given an explanation?

Also, how about an explanation of this:

http://yogibrewer.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/backwardspatch.jpg

Pretty obvious that somebody flipped a photo negative on that one. Or the grunt wearing it slapped it on bass ackwards.

justatrey
01-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Pretty obvious that somebody flipped a photo negative on that one. Or the grunt wearing it slapped it on bass ackwards.

The flag is indeed worn backwards on US military uniforms:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/431050164_87abca3707.jpg

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/jul2005/profiles/pr20050721b.jpg

I found this explanation from the Department of Defense:

http://www.usflag.org/flagpatch.html

It seems strange to say the least.

EDIT: Sorry for my ignorance, I assumed it must be worn on the other arm facing the correct direction. It turns out the flag is only worn on the right side.

In other words, it is only worn backwards!

Cindy
01-21-2008, 07:29 PM
The explanation for the backwards flag on the Army Uniform made no sense to me.

Anyway, does anyone have a photo of a different Hillary rally, where the same flag is also hung there.?

justatrey
01-21-2008, 07:57 PM
The explanation for the backwards flag on the Army Uniform made no sense to me.

Anyway, does anyone have a photo of a different Hillary rally, where the same flag is also hung there.?

You probably won't find anyone with another photo of Hillary with this type of flag.

The GOP symbol and US military flags bother me much more, because they are official and displayed universally. It could not be that the GOP symbol was a manufacturing mistake or an oversight. It was intentional. Same with the military uniforms. These are no accidents, but the flag behind Hillary could be.

I agree that it is a poor explanation from the Department of Defense. They basically create a rule requiring the flag be worn backwards, and then cite it whenever someone asks why this is. I've seen people outraged at all of the following:

- Flag burning
- Upside down flag
- US Flag flown below another country's flag (in the US)

The military requiring the flag to be worn backwards bothers me much more than all of the above.

Ex Post Facto
01-21-2008, 08:09 PM
I think you can follow these clues to Bohemian Grove http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

asgardshill
01-21-2008, 08:09 PM
The flag is indeed worn backwards on US military uniforms:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/431050164_87abca3707.jpg

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/jul2005/profiles/pr20050721b.jpg

I found this explanation from the Department of Defense:

http://www.usflag.org/flagpatch.html

It seems strange to say the least.

EDIT: Sorry for my ignorance, I assumed it must be worn on the other arm facing the correct direction. It turns out the flag is only worn on the right side.

In other words, it is only worn backwards!

I stand corrected. Your links and the independent research I have done confirm what you are saying is true.

But, why? That's one I can't figure out.

blondieb23
01-21-2008, 08:42 PM
British Israel Uses Christian Fundamentalist Evangelicals to Promote the "Kingdom of God on Earth' Scheme to Deliver Up A One World Society-Both Feudal and Fascist

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/britishisraelhiddenhand10jul05.shtml



WOW. I just went to that site and the information is so overwhelming.

torchbearer
01-21-2008, 09:14 PM
ok, now i'm interested after the recent post... why are the patches wrong? is it purposeful after all?

susano
01-21-2008, 09:28 PM
I didn't see it mentioned in the original post.

While the flag is interesting, and I find it hard to believe it is coincidence or an accident, the official GOP symbol suddenly being changed is much more difficult to explain. Surely, the official GOP website must have given an explanation?

Also, how about an explanation of this:

http://yogibrewer.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/backwardspatch.jpg

The info about it being changed when 43 was elected is in a link in this thread.

Yeah, what the hell on that soldier's patch???

susano
01-21-2008, 09:32 PM
The flag is indeed worn backwards on US military uniforms:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/431050164_87abca3707.jpg

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/jul2005/profiles/pr20050721b.jpg

I found this explanation from the Department of Defense:

http://www.usflag.org/flagpatch.html

It seems strange to say the least.

EDIT: Sorry for my ignorance, I assumed it must be worn on the other arm facing the correct direction. It turns out the flag is only worn on the right side.

In other words, it is only worn backwards!

That's just BS! Scroll back in this thread to the picture I posted of Michael Aquino and then google him. We have Satanists running the show.

susano
01-21-2008, 09:37 PM
WOW. I just went to that site and the information is so overwhelming.

I know! It confirms over 20 years of my own research. It's so diabolical that people must read it to believe it. If they do, they KNOW it's true. It's EXACTLY what's happening.

susano
01-21-2008, 09:42 PM
ok, now i'm interested after the recent post... why are the patches wrong? is it purposeful after all?


OF COURSE, it's purposeful. It's as purposeful as the great seal on the federal reserve notes. Occultists run the freaking planet. That's why Ron Paul is being blackballed. They are pure evil and he threatens all that they have and want to accomplish.

This is an epic battle, much bigger than what we see on this level.

acvwJosh
01-21-2008, 10:06 PM
The info about it being changed when 43 was elected is in a link in this thread.

Yeah, what the hell on that soldier's patch???

My dad's in the army, and I remember asking him about it when I was younger (first Gulf War, I believe). He said that the idea is the the flag should look as if you're carrying it into battle -- Imagine you're holding a flag on a pole, and walking forward. That's how the flag is going to look. Nothing evil about it, it's just a metaphor for marching into battle. I think he said that they switch the arm that has the flag during wartime, which is why you've only seen it since we've been in Iraq.

Natalie
01-21-2008, 10:11 PM
what i want to know is... WTF were those guys doing in the Bohemian Grove video?! Seriously!!

I'm going to make a tin foil hat now.

justatrey
01-21-2008, 10:13 PM
My dad's in the army, and I remember asking him about it when I was younger (first Gulf War, I believe). He said that the idea is the the flag should look as if you're carrying it into battle -- Imagine you're holding a flag on a pole, and walking forward. That's how the flag is going to look. Nothing evil about it, it's just a metaphor for marching into battle. I think he said that they switch the arm that has the flag during wartime, which is why you've only seen it since we've been in Iraq.

Well they have to tell them something, so this doesn't prove anything one way or the other.

I'm not saying there is necessarily anything evil about it. I'm just saying that the fact that the military gives a reason like the above does not prove that it does not mean something entirely different to whoever designed the uniforms.

PatriotOne
01-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Ugh...I have heard Jordan Maxwell explain the yellow fringe and the backward flag before but heck if I can remember what he said. Jordan Maxwell is a walking encyclopedia on their symbolism.

Here's a brain twister to ponder also. Why does our congress display fascia?

http://www.awakentothetruth.com/IMAGES/a17congress_fasces.jpg


Also on the dime:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/51/120px-Mercury_dime_reverse.jpg

Sandy
01-21-2008, 10:24 PM
School is mind control. The method comes from Tavistock, in London. Tavistock is a huge hyrda institute, into social engineering, psychiatry, public health, schools, you name it. It's mind control central for the UK. Everything bad going on here is coming from and modeled after the UK. Britain is the enemy of the USA.

Tavistock is definitely hugely involved, as well as many institutes/foundations including the Aspen Institute. A huge deal was the American-USSR education and information exchange agreement back in the 80's, George Schultz was the instigator in this equation with Gorby, both occult globalists.

OOPS! If you read what I previously wrote on this line forget about it, I thought you were a Brit there for a moment.

Tavistock....the Beatles.

PatriotOne
01-21-2008, 10:25 PM
what i want to know is... WTF were those guys doing in the Bohemian Grove video?! Seriously!!

I'm going to make a tin foil hat now.

Oh nothing to worry about. Our leaders and Global Elite get together once a year in a protected 2000 acre forest surrounded by the CIA, dress up in hooded robes and have satanic rituals where they perform mock human sacrifices (errr....we hope it was mock) by burning them in the belly of a 40 ft stone owl called Molech. You know Molech right? The God the bible specifically forbids to have sacrifices done to him? But nothing to worry about. Of course if my neighbors did that in their back yard, I sure as hell wouldn't invite them over for a BBQ. For some reason it's normal for our leaders though.

Leviticus

18:21 You must not give any of your children as an offering to Molech, 29 so that you do not profane 30 the name of your God. I am the Lord!

20:1 The Lord spoke to Moses: 20:2 “You are to say to the Israelites, ‘Any man from the Israelites or from the foreigners who reside in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be put to death; the people of the land must pelt him with stones. 20:3 I myself will set my face against that man and cut him off from the midst of his people, because he has given some of his children to Molech and thereby defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 20:4 If, however, the people of the land shut their eyes to that man when he gives some of his children to Molech so that they do not put him to death, 20:5 I myself will set my face against that man and his clan. I will cut off from the midst of their people both him and all who follow after him in prostitution, to commit prostitution by going after Molech.

Kings

23:10 The king ruined Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom so that no one could pass his son or his daughter through the fire to Molech

Jeremiah

32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

Tratzman
01-21-2008, 10:28 PM
RP hasn't even scraped the surface of all that's going on here in the USA. What he's exposing the public to is a completely sanitized version of the true reality going on behind the scenes. Your government leaders have been doing some nasty nasty things while we've been getting fat and lazy watching the tell-a-vision.

Mesogen
01-21-2008, 10:40 PM
Ugh...I have heard Jordan Maxwell explain the yellow fringe and the backward flag before but heck if I can remember what he said. Jordan Maxwell is a walking encyclopedia on their symbolism.

Here's a brain twister to ponder also. Why does our congress display fascia?

http://www.awakentothetruth.com/IMAGES/a17congress_fasces.jpg


Also on the dime:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/51/120px-Mercury_dime_reverse.jpg



And here is a very commonly copied statue of Washington standing with the fasces.
http://www.virginiacapitol.gov/images/HoudonStatue.jpg
He also has a vagina.

Sandy
01-21-2008, 10:50 PM
RP hasn't even scraped the surface of all that's going on here in the USA. What he's exposing the public to is a completely sanitized version of the true reality going on behind the scenes. Your government leaders have been doing some nasty nasty things while we've been getting fat and lazy watching the tell-a-vision.

Yep!

OUCH, ran across this article today and wanted to post it, anyone hear of Stanley Monteith? Wow, just Wow. It's about the population control agenda and the occult, this guy has been at certain conferences so has heard and seen stuff, has been studying and reporting on this for awhile.

Didn't know about the breast cancer link to first trimester abortions plus other stuff he talks about, these people are hiding all sorts of stuff on purpose!!!!!

http://www.radioliberty.com/pca.htm

fogger
01-21-2008, 10:51 PM
Only the administrative managers for the elite are Luciferians. The true elite do not worship the devil or have any religion whatsoever.

Think about it from a ruler's perspective. A layer of management that believes in devil worship is an effective insulator so you can maintain power. It's a filtering device to find controllable people. You can explore their psychology and identify their innermost wants and desires. Their deviances also provide effective blackmail material.

The power structure learned to create that layer because immoral managers are easier to control and it keeps everyone occupied. Otherwise you'd have MORAL people next to the top layer and one of them might topple you using the people's morality against you.

Hopefully someone can help explain the above in fewer words. It's important to understand what we're up against. The Clintons are easily controllable pawns.

PatriotOne
01-21-2008, 11:18 PM
Only the administrative managers for the elite are Luciferians. The true elite do not worship the devil or have any religion whatsoever.

Think about it from a ruler's perspective. A layer of management that believes in devil worship is an effective insulator so you can maintain power. It's a filtering device to find controllable people. You can explore their psychology and identify their innermost wants and desires. Their deviances also provide effective blackmail material.

The power structure learned to create that layer because immoral managers are easier to control and it keeps everyone occupied. Otherwise you'd have MORAL people next to the top layer and one of them might topple you using the people's morality against you.

Hopefully someone can help explain the above in fewer words. It's important to understand what we're up against. The Clintons are easily controllable pawns.

To a certain extent I can agree wit you on that. It kind of reminds me of an exerience when the Government contractor I worked for was instructed to lay off 5000 (of the 18,000) people on the superfunded project I worked at. They moved the current loved President of the project to another position out of state and brought in the new President who we called the ax man. He did the dirty work, layed off 5000 people and then was moved to another project in another state to do the same thing. After the lay-offs, another loveable manager was brought in.

The true leaders think they ARE Gods. They create and use the Luciferarians to do their dirty work to further their One World Order agenda.

It's so convoluted and complicated sometimes and has been going on for so long it took me a couple years to even begin to get the big picture and how it has/is being implemented.

If everyone only knew the truth :eek:

Sandy
01-21-2008, 11:26 PM
To a certain extent I can agree wit you on that. It kind of reminds me of an exerience when the Government contractor I worked for was instructed to lay off 5000 (of the 18,000) people on the superfunded project I worked at. They moved the current loved President of the project to another position out of state and brought in the new President who we called the ax man. He did the dirty work, layed off 5000 people and then was moved to another project in another state to do the same thing. After the lay-offs, another loveable manager was brought in.

The true leaders think they ARE Gods. They create and use the Luciferarians to do their dirty work to further their One World Order agenda.

It's so convoluted and complicated sometimes and has been going on for so long it took me a couple years to even begin to get the big picture and how it has/is being implemented.

If everyone only knew the truth :eek:

Cut/spliced from article I just posted:

"As a researcher on the subject of the occult, I regularly receive letters and publications from the Lucis Trust. The Lucis Trust of today is the modern-day extension of the "Lucifer Publishing Company," an organization founded by Alice Bailey during the early years of the twentieth century. Alice Bailey was a disciple of Madame Blavatsky and the nominal leader of the Theosophical Society between the early 1900s and the late 1920s. Because the name "Lucifer" had such a bad connotation in those days, Alice Bailey changed the name of her organization from "The Lucifer Publishing Company" to "The Lucis Trust." The nature and beliefs of her organization, however, have always remained the same. The Lucis Trust of today is one of the major front groups through which theosophy works to influence life here in America."

"Publications from The Lucis Trust regularly refer to "The Plan" for humanity that has been established by "The Hierarchy." Part of that plan is inscribed on the great granite pillars of the American Stonehenge in Elberton, Georgia ... "The Georgia Guidestones." 13

Elephant
01-21-2008, 11:48 PM
Looks like she takes this 'special' flag around with her. Found another pic of her with it, don't know how to post it here but it's on this page
http://www.politics-now.info/
it's the second pic under "Hillary's Back"

PatriotOne
01-21-2008, 11:49 PM
Cut/spliced from article I just posted:

"As a researcher on the subject of the occult, I regularly receive letters and publications from the Lucis Trust. The Lucis Trust of today is the modern-day extension of the "Lucifer Publishing Company," an organization founded by Alice Bailey during the early years of the twentieth century. Alice Bailey was a disciple of Madame Blavatsky and the nominal leader of the Theosophical Society between the early 1900s and the late 1920s. Because the name "Lucifer" had such a bad connotation in those days, Alice Bailey changed the name of her organization from "The Lucifer Publishing Company" to "The Lucis Trust." The nature and beliefs of her organization, however, have always remained the same. The Lucis Trust of today is one of the major front groups through which theosophy works to influence life here in America."

"Publications from The Lucis Trust regularly refer to "The Plan" for humanity that has been established by "The Hierarchy." Part of that plan is inscribed on the great granite pillars of the American Stonehenge in Elberton, Georgia ... "The Georgia Guidestones." 13

I was just reading that. It's a very well written article and yet it just scratches the surface. Last year I researched many different countries population growth only to discover many countries now have zero or declining growth (more people dying than being born). War, disease (cancers), woman becoming barren, low testosterone in men, etc., etc., etc. People just do not realize is that this was all intentional, Flouridation, mercury vacinations, food additives, biowarfare (chemspraying), etc. God the list goes on and on and on. Gardisil....their latest vaccination to create barren woman.

PatriotOne
01-22-2008, 12:03 AM
Looks like she takes this 'special' flag around with her. Found another pic of her with it, don't know how to post it here but it's on this page
http://www.politics-now.info/
it's the second pic under "Hillary's Back"

Good find. It's really amazing once you learn the occult symbolism you can find it all over the place in plain view. The all-seeing eye is everywhere in corporate logo's, snakes swallowing it's own tail (I just saw a new Tylenol commercial last night depicting that). These opeople are truly obsessed with it. It means everything to them. Just a study of Washington D.C. architecture, statues, street layouts, etc., is mind blowing.

BreakYourChains
01-22-2008, 12:21 AM
I was just reading that. It's a very well written article and yet it just scratches the surface. Last year I researched many different countries population growth only to discover many countries now have zero or declining growth (more people dying than being born). War, disease (cancers), woman becoming barren, low testosterone in men, etc., etc., etc. People just do not realize is that this was all intentional, Flouridation, mercury vacinations, food additives, biowarfare (chemspraying), etc. God the list goes on and on and on. Gardisil....their latest vaccination to create barren woman.

Yes, and don't forget abortion. And, it seems men need drugs just to get in a position to be able to impregnate a woman, so no wonder the birth rate is going down. Perhaps it will one day be discovered that Viagra and such meds also stop reproduction. GMO's, microwaves, teflon coating, margarine, antibiotics and hormones in our meats.....the list goes on....and yes - intentional. Now, to further enhance the agenda, we will be fed cloned meats and fowl, etc. Time to stop eating meat now for me..............

Hook
01-22-2008, 12:54 AM
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I thought the exact same thing as I was watching the pro-amnesty guys giving their speeches on the floor. They were desperate to push that piece of crap bill down our throats. I was thinking they were being forced to do it. Lord knows no Repub getting ready to run for President would do THAT willingly! It was probably political suicide if the truth be known and we weren't subjected to the MSM's daily movie of smoke and mirrors and faux elections. LOL I just look at Ted Kennedy and know he is a tortured man. God knows what he has been put through with the murder of his brothers and JFK Jr. and still forced to pretend it didn't happen. Fear? Compromised/blackmailed? Corrupted and willing? Heck if I know, but it sure is one of those. No wonder he is a drunk.



I think many of the dems are also being forced to vote pro-war because they fear another false flag op in the U.S. Those bastards got nukes and not afraid to use them. It's the only thing that makes sense to me why they keep approving the war funds. I can't find it now but some congressman said as much to one of his constituents. We know, they know, it was a false flag. They would have to truly be blithering idiots if they didn't and I'm done using that excuse for them. Between the Luciferians on the hill, the corrupted ones and the blackmailed ones and the ones that downright fear another 9/11, well...viola....more money for a war.. There's not enough time in the day for me to figure out who's been compromised by consent or blackmail on the Hill.

I suspect McCain, on the other hand, has been MKUltra'd. Not basing that on much other than "gut" instinct though. His POW experience had some anomolies and he blocked investigations by family members into the other POW's. Makes me kind of wonder if they were really POW's or victims of MK Ultra.

So why not just resign then?

rmholla
01-22-2008, 01:21 AM
Be very careful with this topic because if you look closely at the GOP elephant in this picture, the stars are also upside down.

http://www.ronpaul2008store.com/servlet/Detail?no=35


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Zydeco
01-22-2008, 01:26 AM
There is a strong occult influence at the highest levels of US government, and it's very weird. Satanism is a part of it, as crazy as it sounds. Skull & Bones (Bush, Kerry, Dana Milbank, etc.) is just the tip of the iceberg.

Razmear
01-22-2008, 01:57 AM
The flag shows in her Blog on 1/4/08 also:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/blog/view/?id=20154

eb

Molly1
01-22-2008, 02:04 AM
http://www.crossroad.to/images/2002/symbols/penta-down1.jpg

:eek:

:eek:

Razmear
01-22-2008, 02:23 AM
Here's a screenshot I just took from her blog entry of 1/4/08

http://razmear.us/hill_flag_148_nh.jpg

at:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/blog/view/?id=20154

eb

lemnad
01-22-2008, 02:28 AM
My dad's in the army, and I remember asking him about it when I was younger (first Gulf War, I believe). He said that the idea is the the flag should look as if you're carrying it into battle -- Imagine you're holding a flag on a pole, and walking forward. That's how the flag is going to look. Nothing evil about it, it's just a metaphor for marching into battle. I think he said that they switch the arm that has the flag during wartime, which is why you've only seen it since we've been in Iraq.

Same reason we do them the same way on the tail of planes in the Air Force. So they look like they are going in the natural direction they would blow in the wind forward to back.

InLoveWithRon
01-22-2008, 02:39 AM
well this is what i think of hitlery

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd123/pro--sports/hillarysatan.gif

Roadrcr
01-22-2008, 02:42 AM
Flag was clearly made in china like the rest of our shit !

Molly1
01-22-2008, 02:45 AM
Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007 (http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007)
1. Clinton
2. Conyers
3. Craig
4. Feinstein
5. Giuliani
6. Huckabee
7. Libby
8. Obama
9. Pelosi
10. Reid

wow And four of them are running for President.:eek:

Molly1
01-22-2008, 02:48 AM
That's what the link in this thread said. The very fact that they have been changed, a deliberate decision, just shows that someone decided to be public about who the GOP serves.

Can you explain to me why they are suddenly going so public with this stuff, hand signals, etc?

TER
01-22-2008, 02:56 AM
Can you explain to me why they are suddenly going so public with this stuff, hand signals, etc?

According to Orthodox Christian elders, as the end times approach, Satan and his forces of evil will be emboldened and more obvious and commonplace.

justatrey
01-22-2008, 08:24 AM
Be very careful with this topic because if you look closely at the GOP elephant in this picture, the stars are also upside down.

http://www.ronpaul2008store.com/servlet/Detail?no=35


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Yes but they didn't used to be upside down. This happened recently. Thats the whole point!

Why did this:

http://www.fletcherledger.com/archive/2002-11-18/111802viewpoints/110802_GOP_logo.jpg

Become this?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Republicanlogo.svg/200px-

tommyzDad
01-22-2008, 10:16 AM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7549/obamanopledgeofallegianrx9.jpg

PatriotOne
01-27-2008, 09:35 PM
Chelsea wearing an upside down cross. Bill wearing an eye of Osiris pin. Clinton flying her pentagram flag. Quite the Christian family.

http://rense.com/general80/osi.htm

timosman
12-18-2016, 03:40 PM
bump